Talk:Monticello (Illinois)
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editThis article is apparently being updated as a high school project, which is great, but the process would be much easier if it was more collaborative. Some concerns that have been raised by myself and other Wikivoyage editors thus far:
- One of the specific non-goals of the site is to NOT be a yellow pages, so listing every restaurant in town is unnecessary. Having just a few listings with descriptions makes for a far better guide. Additionally, following the standard format helps make the guide more readable.
- Several of the images now in the article appear to be copyright violations and have been listed for deletion on Wikivoyage shared.
- Wikivoyage uses standard section headings, so this article should follow those headings.
The edits to this article are much appreciated, but this article would improve more quickly if the students making these edits read the Wikivoyage guidelines outlined so that we can all focus on getting content in this article rather than worrying about formatting and layout. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 01:31, 3 November 2009 (EST)
- I re-wrote the content that was taken verbatim from Google maps - that content is copyright Google and not freely released, so it can't be used here. Turn-by-turn directions from the center of a city like Chicago to downtown Monticello are also unnecessarily detailed. Last of all, links to Google maps are explicitly called out in Project:External links as something NOT to include in an article. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 16:46, 9 November 2009 (EST)
- This article just seems to be a perfect candidate for soft security. The school project may actually improve the article in other ways if we let it run. Sure, lets offer to guide in the right direction, but otherwise lets just come back in a week or two, and fix it up. --(WT-en) inas 20:40, 9 November 2009 (EST)
- I was hoping that by using a 30 minute protection I could get the attention of the students working on this article - they've added several copyrighted images and some copyrighted text, amongst other issues - but if that fails and you or someone else will review this article in a week to remove any copyright violations and fix any formatting issues then I'm fine with that. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 20:46, 9 November 2009 (EST)
I am part of the project, and we will be done in a few weeks. But I do appreciate your help.
As for the pictures, they are ALL pictures that WE have taken. I do not mind choosing other ones, but can you please tell me what is wrong with them and how they are copyright violations? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Ariel Lickton (talk • contribs)
- There are two issues with the images that have been uploaded: #1 is that despite the very large warning message on the English Wikivoyage upload page, images are still being uploaded here. #2 is that the images that were uploaded to Wikivoyage shared (the correct image repository) have no license or copyright information, despite very clear instructions on that page about how to add such information, making them invalid for use here. It is illegal to use copyrighted material without a license, so we are very, very vigilant about making sure that copyright law is followed. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:16, 18 November 2009 (EST)
- I do understand that I need to upload them through WikiShared, but when I do that, you still take them down , so I put them up any way I could. I will make sure we only use the WikiShared page from now on.
but, how do we copywright our pictures?? We took them on our cameras, they are OUR photos? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Ariel Lickton (talk • contribs)- Most of the pictures are fine. What you need to do is, when you go to wts:Special:Upload, underneath the "Upload File" button is a bunch of links. Click the one labeled "images:" (it looks like this: {{Imagecredit|credit=|captureDate=|location=|source=|caption=|description=}}) That will insert a template into the description page for the image. You can then fill that template out so you can tell us who took the image, where it was taken, and when it was taken. You also need to choose a license from the drop-down list that says "Licensing: None selected". And we would have loved to tell you all about this if you had only asked. We tried to contact you several times but you kept uploading files instead of talking to us.
That said, there are some of your files that are not okay. These files are the ones that show someone else's creative work, like the image of the Abraham Lincoln sign. Someone else wrote the text on that sign, not you, so you can't just take a picture of it and put it up on WikiTravel.
Please, if any of this is not clear, let someone know, and we'll try to explain it better.
-- (WT-en) LtPowers 15:00, 18 November 2009 (EST)
- Most of the pictures are fine. What you need to do is, when you go to wts:Special:Upload, underneath the "Upload File" button is a bunch of links. Click the one labeled "images:" (it looks like this: {{Imagecredit|credit=|captureDate=|location=|source=|caption=|description=}}) That will insert a template into the description page for the image. You can then fill that template out so you can tell us who took the image, where it was taken, and when it was taken. You also need to choose a license from the drop-down list that says "Licensing: None selected". And we would have loved to tell you all about this if you had only asked. We tried to contact you several times but you kept uploading files instead of talking to us.
- I do understand that I need to upload them through WikiShared, but when I do that, you still take them down , so I put them up any way I could. I will make sure we only use the WikiShared page from now on.