User talk:Cjensen~enwikivoyage/Archives2007

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Links

Okay, I have restored the links. In my part of the world, I find that people are not using the links to develop a page. The most they do is write a line or two, which probably I could do for dozens of pages. However, once there is some text, then people start acting - add information or modify them. In most of the region or district pages I have created I am leaving the cities without links. Anybody interested can always insert a link. Or may be, at a later stage, I will have to develop the outlines before others are drawn to them. Regards. -- (WT-en) P.K.Niyogi 22:00, 1 January 2007 (EST)

Copy Vio

I'm sorry but the information I took was from the local tourist information site and I really don't have the time to rewrite it all in my own words. The main reason for my copy paste was to ensure the accuracy of the information.

There also was a lot of my own work in there too. (WT-en) Brad Mclain 16:50, 4 January 2007 (EST)

Ok I understand is what I have redone ok, does it abide by your rules? (WT-en) Brad Mclain 23:08, 4 January 2007 (EST)

Admin nomination

I've nominated User:(WT-en) Cacahuate to become an admin; please comment on Project:administrator nominations when you have some time. --(WT-en) Evan 01:26, 6 January 2007 (EST)

Mt. Diablo

Is the whole land-area thing really not true? --(WT-en) Evan 21:15, 6 January 2007 (EST)

Having been there, I immediately thought it was bogus. There's a lot of ocean area, the Coastal Range blocks North and South, and the Sierra caps the view a hundred miles east. Then I checked WikiPedia:Mount Diablo State Park#Claims about viewable area which debunks it. -- (WT-en) Colin 21:21, 6 January 2007 (EST)

Yosemite Cabins

I looked at the Sleepy Bear cabins listing for Yosemite and couldn't determine if it was actually in the park or not - out of curiosity, how did you figure out they were outside? -- (WT-en) Ryan 17:53, 9 January 2007 (EST)

Google Earth with the address cut-n-pasted from their website. It looks like a cluster of cabins and stuff just barely beyond the park boundary just off Highway 41. Here's a link to Google Maps. It looks like it would be a good El Portal-like alternative since there is more to it than just this one place, so a Yosemite West article might be worthwhile. What bugged me most was the Website -- check out the Photoshopped image they use on their front page without disclaimer. -- (WT-en) Colin 18:41, 9 January 2007 (EST)

Good catch. Definitely looks shady - the fact that the web site advertises "in Yosemite" has me thinking we probably don't want to list these guys, even if we create a Yosemite West article. -- (WT-en) Ryan 20:43, 9 January 2007 (EST)

sorry for that

i was just concerned that all these Best Western Hotel links are true spam.

sorry

Looking at your user page you seem to work for the hotel industry!!!!!

No I do not. You know what they say about assumptions. -- (WT-en) Colin 19:59, 21 January 2007 (EST)

=Wikipedia

OK, I guess I jumped the gun assuming that the Gulistan-e-jauhar content was OK as someone claimed they had the right to release it to us... I should probably be more suspicious about such things. Thanks. (WT-en) Maj 01:34, 26 January 2007 (EST)

upamanyu here

I haven't copied any text from another site. However, I uploaded a photo nainitalgardens.jpg from the Neemrana Hotels website www.neemrana.com . The photo is not actually Nainital as it says, it is a picture of The Glasshouse on the Ganges, 23 kms north of Rishikesh. I don't know whether it is licensed by cc-sa. 202.141.69.110 04:22, 26 January 2007 (EST)

Joseph Stalin

Hello there. I noticed that you were one of the other people reverting the edits that a certain (WT-en) Joseph Stalin was making. I just wanted to inform you, since it seems you might be in better communication with the Wikivoyage superiors (or maybe you're one of them), that I've seen this character before on another wiki. If you read (WT-en) Joseph Stalin's user page, it says simply "Willy on Wheels." Well, over at WikiCars, we had a recurring problem with a user named Willy on Wheels, who kept moving pages to new names and making senseless edits in existing pages. I don't know how the powers that be might want to handle the situation, but I just thought someone should know that he's been a problem elsewhere as well. - (WT-en) Pastrami on Ry 19:56, 5 February 2007 (EST)

Yeah, I wrote the text identifying him as Willy. See Project:How to handle unwanted edits. -- (WT-en) Colin 20:00, 5 February 2007 (EST)

This Joseph Stalin (Willy on wheels) is making life hell. Can't you please bump him off the site - you are an administrator. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage 09:35, 6 February 2007 (EST)

Colin: Ah yes, I hadn't read the "How to handle..." page before I posted my message here. I've got a better understanding of the policies now. - (WT-en) Pastrami on Ry 14:18, 6 February 2007 (EST)

Water temp

I've resolved the issues you pointed out about the climate template. I've also moved the template to Template:ClimateCelsius. I also created a Template:ClimateFahrenheit for use in destinations that use the Fahrenheit system. I haven't yet, as of the writing of this comment, add a optional parameter for mean temperatures, but I will.

Also, all fields are now optional, so if the Water temp field is completely empty it will not display unless a value is entered. However, if you do enter data for any one value, but not for the rest of the values the row will appear. -- (WT-en) Sapphire 00:38, 16 February 2007 (EST)

P.S. See Cincinnati#Climate, though I haven't converted the figures back to Fahrenheit. -- (WT-en) Sapphire 00:39, 16 February 2007 (EST)

Hotel bot

Hey, if you're going to rerun your hotel bot would you please provide the data on de: too? So far, I put the data in my namespace, but it'd be better if it was in your namespace on de:. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 00:55, 2 March 2007 (EST)

Researching copyvios beyond Commons

I think I know that guy's story more or less, because myself I have vfd-ed many of his uploads while moving Poland-related stuff to wts:. But for Commons images, I only placed a vfd when there was a discrepancy between what was stated there and here (i.e. a GFDL image re-uploaded here as CC).

What I'm trying to say is that it's practical that there be a point beyond which the copyvio examination stops and, for me, Commons are such a point. In other words, if an image has existed in Commons over a prolonged period of time and the licence information is consistent, there is no point in googling anymore, because why should we trust any other web page more than Commons, where there are people who actively and constantly search for copyvios.

I understand you have a much broader experience with this, so it's only a side-note from me.

(WT-en) CandleWithHare 18:54, 2 March 2007 (EST)

You reverted on Palestinian Territories

Hi, there was a red link that I fixed in the edits you reverted, I'm going to revert back, let me know if you have any objections --(WT-en) MiddleEastern 08:00, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

Seems you beat me to it! --(WT-en) MiddleEastern 08:03, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

Wikivoyage ToC

Colin: I've made some additional changes to the Wikivoyage ToC layout on review. If you get a chance, could you give me your feedback on it?

Thanks, --(WT-en) Evan 12:27, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

That indian page spammer

I've probably reverted a hundred of his edits in the past day. Is there any way to block an IP range? (WT-en) Jordanmills 09:22, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

please take a look at this...

→ Talk:United States of America#Profanity

(WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 08:24, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

Hotelmaker

I just created a disambig page for Hampton. Your hotelmaker directs there in (WT-en) Virginia and (WT-en) New Hampshire. Should I change the name of the heading from Hampton or Hampton (New Hampshire) to just Hampton (New Hampshire)? Or will that mess something up? -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 12:08, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Picture of a Norwegian police officer

Hi, thanks for the heads up. Go ahead and remove the image if you want to. (WT-en) Illustrator

a tribute to cj

just in case you collect insults – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 22:51, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Damn, now that is special. (WT-en) OldPine 23:01, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Split pages

Colin, you had some strong opinions about the plan to tech:optionally split long guides into one page per section. Since I've got a new version of software on review: to do this, I'd love to get your feedback on the shared: tech page. --(WT-en) Evan 13:26, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

New Mexico

I dropped you an e-line. What's up? -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 23:48, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

Kissimmee edit

No problemo at all. I really appreciate your style of taking the hard line (or maybe it's just knowing the rules). It's part of my reluctance at being an admin--I'm not at all confrontational, or maybe just don't want to get into it. I miss TVerBeek's patrolling, and I sure love it when you kick some butt. (WT-en) OldPine 10:16, 18 September 2007 (EDT)

I know that wikivoyage doesn't accept any urls to vacation rentals that don't have addresses but a lot of rental homes, condos etcetera have deals setup with vacation search engines so you have to sign up through them. What if we linked with general crossroads? or to a search query? Would htat be ok? (WT-en) Danalors 16:44, 10 October 2007 (EDT)

Citations

I did make the text right, unfortunately another user repeatedly removed the fact about the city. How do you prove something is fact without citing a link? (WT-en) Jamesbrown 08:20, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

Nazca tour op/agent

You and I have both reverted this guy[1], but I'm not sure on what basis. What leg are we standing on? I put his info up in full, so we may need to revert again, but I feel he should get an explanation and I don't find policy on this anywhere. We certainly allow tour operators don't we? Even though he's calling them travel agents, I'm not sure that's exactly what it is. On the other hand it's a slippery slope. -- (WT-en) OldPine 08:01, 1 October 2007 (EDT)

Agree it's no fun. My shiny buttons are all mucked up already. Sheesh. OK, so the Epoquehotels guys are just a booking agency from what I can see. I've found better primary links for a lot of the hotels and left a message on the IP address asking for an explanation, but gone none. At what point can I put these guys on the spam blacklist (or can I?) so I don't have to revert 25 edits every day?

Hey, don't you think there should be a page just for admins to communicate about unwanted edits, who's doing what, etc? There was talk about a manual for admins. I guess I ought to go see if it got done. (WT-en) OldPine 19:06, 1 October 2007 (EDT)

Central Oregon Coast

As far as I can tell, that's a valid region in the Oregon hierarchy, so our normal policy should be to de-graffiti it and populate, rather than delete the thing. I've done so over your deletion. Feh ... this vandalism problem is getting worse by the day ... -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 23:22, 11 November 2007 (EST)

site problem

Hey, are you on? try loading the Greece article. I get:

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.

Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.

(Can't contact the database server: Unknown error)

sup wit dat? (WT-en) Morph 18:58, 2 December 2007 (EST)

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