Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Slush pile/2024

2023 DotM slush pile for 2024 (current) 2025

Place: North Central New Mexico
Blurb: The hidden gem of the American Southwest with thriving art communities, high-elevation resort towns, and some of the most scenic drives anywhere on earth. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any; winter for skiing/snowboarding, summer for outdoor activities.
Nominated by: Tuyuhun (talk) 06:27, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I don't know if this Region article would work better in OtBP or even DotM (Santa Fe and Taos would both qualify for the latter), but it reads more like an itinerary than a true "destination" article. The article is complete; most of the associated destination links are at Guide status and the ones that aren't are at Usable and are mostly small towns. We can work on some of the Usable articles to get them up to Guide status before we run this. Like mentioned above, this article can also work as OtBP or DotM if that's what the consensus has (I don't know how we usually treat Region-level articles for this). The one comment I have about the page is that we could clean up the "Cities" tab to fit the 7±2 rule.

Nomination
  • Comment - Thanks for the nomination! I see what you mean about aspects of this article being like an itinerary, but as it's definitely a geographical region it can't be an FTT. I've moved it up to here for now, but if it would fit better in DOTM, that's fine with me.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry to crash this, but it's ineligible as it was already featured before (OtBP, December 2016). For future reference, look at the upper right corner of the banner: a green tick mark means it's been featured as DotM previously, a blue "turn right" traffic sign OtBP and an orange pen FTT. However we do have a lot of unfeatured articles with guide status from the southwestern U.S. so feel free to nominate one of those. --Ypsilon (talk) 17:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also the 7+-2 rule doesn't apply to the lowest level of region articles, the level right above the cities, towns and parks, to make sure that these are listed in at least one region. --Ypsilon (talk) 17:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Carrollton
Blurb: Carrollton (Virginia) is a bedroom community of Norfolk with great places to eat, small town charm, and is a short drive away from bigger cities (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Yearround
Nominated by: Someonehere12345 (talk) 03:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Someonehere12345[reply]
Comment: Great article, Its a good place to visit anytime of the year

Nomination
  • Needs work – for me, this article is barely a guide (but still one nonetheless per the criteria). It is complete, but that does not necessarily equate to being featurable. For one, more should be added to the "See", "Do", "Buy" and "Sleep" sections with it clearly mentioning that they are the only place to see, do, buy or sleep. The Understand section could do with a lot more content as it is rather dull and monotonous as things stand. More could also be done to explain how to visit the town for those who don't drive and other car-free alternatives, including getting in from the airport + railway station. I might add a bit more to this list, but they are a few things to add. Don't let my comment discourage you – please keep up the good work you do – but things need to be near-perfect for it to be on the Main Page and I hope you can understand my remarks. Best, --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 08:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, I just did some more research, I added in the get around section the only bus route that goes through Carrollton being Hampton Roads Transit Route 964, You will still need a car but it does provide the alternative to public transit (although it only stops in Carrollton twice a day as mentioned in the article.) Someonehere12345 (talk) 16:34, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If it's a 2bpd service doesn't sound very usable to me – it should be mentioned in the article. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 13:04, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As there is only one stop in Carrollton, I moved the bus info to Get in. It could be used to connect with a train at Newport News. AlasdairW (talk) 22:50, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, Alasdair :-). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 08:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs some work. I think this is stretching the meaning of guide. We have a list of two supermarkets, one of which is "The only supermarket in Carrollton". None of the eat or drink listings have detailed descriptions, or give the impression that the writer has actually walked through the door. The Do listings are also lacking in detail. Is one historic building to look at from the outside all there is to see? AlasdairW (talk) 23:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, I changed the listing for Food Lion, to say the main supermarket, which it is, since the other is really more of a meat market. I didnt give too detailed of a descritpion, because I didnt want to be touting. And the Carroll home listing is the only thing I know of, that would qualify for a "see" listing. (Carrollton is not that big.) Someonehere12345 (talk) 18:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I later added a See listing for St Luke's Church, but I won't object if it is moved to Smithfield (Virginia) or elsewhere. So there are now two things to see. AlasdairW (talk) 22:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Stating that x, y and z dishes are particularly good is not touting. There are lots of Italian restaurants. Why is this one in particular listed? I suggest you look at listings in star-rated articles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:39, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I updated all of the eat and drink listing descriptions (with the exception of the supermarkets which were moved to the buy section). Are the descriptions detailed enough now? Someonehere12345 (talk) 18:43, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also updated the do listings. Please let me know if the eat/do listings fix your objections. Someonehere12345 (talk) 17:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Meh. This article fills me with soulless flatulence. The place lacks notoriety or anything remarkable. Aside from being an okay place to raise 2.5 kids in a suburban cape cod near schools and shopping, I don't really get the feeling this is a place that's even worth the gas it takes to pull off the interstate for a quick rest break. We have far better articles. Besides, there's far too many featured U.S. destinations as it is. Mrkstvns (talk) 19:04, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mama Mia Pizzeria, Shang Hai restaurant and Food Lion supermarket all have the same address. Is it because they are all in the same strip mall? And why is Mama Mia Pizzeria's address being "13478 Carrollton Blvd M"? OhanaUnitedTalk page 17:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    They are all in the same strip mall. I added M because thats where I saw the address listing, But thanks for pointing that out the mama mia address, when i was pulling addresses thats what I got. I deleted the M now for consistency sakes, since they are all the same strip mall. Someonehere12345 (talk) 17:06, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not Yet In articles about places that lack attractions, it's important to give a spotlight to the things that do exist and you can give more information about each attracton without worrying about overpowering the article. As it is written, it does not make the town appealing. Ask yourself why should anyone go here? Why would anyone ever want to visit this city? What would interest or intrigue someone about this city? Add the answers to the article. In an article that is so dry, I'd suggest trying your hand at touting. The "no touting" rule is meant to prevent flowery promotional language. It is not intended to discourage telling visitors what is appealing, interesting, or special about a city or listing. It also needs more pictures. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 11:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Slush? There is next-to-zero consensus for featuring this article and very little has been done since. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 23:40, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, slush it. Pashley (talk) 13:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - If everything of interest in the town is listed, then it is a complete article. And we've featured some towns with very few listings as OtBP. That said, unlike e.g. Hyden and Crawford (Nebraska), Carrollton seems to be close to some more populous cities so maybe it would make sense to merge the article into either of them. --Ypsilon (talk) 13:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Those two are nicely written and there are a few more or less unique sights, which somebody might go there for. For Carrington we learn that it has experienced growth as a bedroom community, and the background to its name. Nothing in the lead or the Understand tells why I would want to go there. A guide article (and especially a feature) should tell why I would want to or why I'd end up there anyway.
    I'd imagine that you might want to stop in Carrington for a pizza, a specialty flavor icecream or the fish tacos (and that might be enough for us wanting the article), or for the oldest church in Virginia, but if so, why don't tell it up front?
    LPfi (talk) 14:39, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Slush. I have to agree with OhanaUnited here: "Carrollton has experienced growth as a bedroom community" is the least exciting tagline ever. The Carroll family history is mildly interesting but it sounds like you can't actually enter any of those "truly historic Carrollton homes", meaning the only actual attraction of any kind is a church? Jpatokal (talk) 00:35, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Outcome: slushed. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 22:34, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]