Talk:Hamamatsu

Unagi pie

According to the official Hamamatsu tourism site [1], there are eel bones in unagi pie. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:51, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

Districting

Please do not split Hamamatsu into districts — it's not big enough a city to require it. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:07, 19 February 2009 (EST)

It is, however, a big enough region to require it. Please allow me to present an argument.

City	Area	Population	Currently divided into
Atlanta	343.0 km2	519,145	16 districts
Manchester	115.65 km2	458,100	7 districts
Edmonton	684.37 km2	752,412	7 districts
Hamamatsu	1,511.17 km2	808,182	1 article

• The city part of Hamamatsu itself is not so big, but it has recently annexed many smaller communities: lake/hot springs resort towns, farming communities, mountain villages, each with their own accommodations, restaurants, etc.. (The current article does not have many Eat or Sleep listings for these areas, but there are many good options, and I will get to them soon.)
• From one end of Hamamatsu to the other is 78 kilometers as the crow flies, and considerably more than that by car, given the winding mountain roads of the northern half of the city. The article currently has adjacent listings that are up to 4 hours' travel time distant from one another by public transit. To get to the Sakuma area from downtown without a car, for example, one has to leave Hamamatsu entirely, taking the JR train all the way to Toyohashi in Aichi-ken and then changing to the Iida line for another almost two-hour ride.

For these reasons, I really think Hamamatsu is a city article that should be treated like a region article. I propose the following:

• Central - the city itself (Naka-ku, Minami-ku, Higashi-ku)
• Hamakita - The other main "city" of Hamamatsu, along the Tenryu River and across the foothills. Lots of shopping and restaurants.
• Nishi-ku - western administrative division which includes the lake resort/hot springs/fishing communities of Maisaka, Bentenjima, Yuto, and Kanzanji, all along the eastern shore of Lake Hamana.
• Kita-ku - The former towns of Inasa, Hosoe, Mikkabi, etc., north of Lake Hamana and in the foothills. Farming communities with a lot of natural and historical sights.
• Tenryu-ku - The isolated mountain villages of Futamata, Tenryu, Haruno, Sakuma, Misakubo, etc. Literally about two-thirds of the "city" in area, extending north all the way to Nagano-ken, with a very low population density.

So let's hash it out. I really don't think all these diverse areas belong in just one article. I'd like to hear some other opinions as well. (WT-en) Texugo 22:15, 19 February 2009 (EST)

To me, this sounds like a classic case of Japanese bureaucrats coming up with an administrative division that's useless for a travel -- somebody going to (say) Yuto Onsen is going to Yuto Onsen, not "Hamamatsu/Nishi-ku". I'd suggest keeping "Central" as Hamamatsu, creating a Hamakita article if necessary, and creating other articles under the names of the "former" towns as necessary (== they're destination-worthy). It's also possible to lump together nearby onsen towns, see eg. Oku-Hida Onsen Villages. (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:50, 19 February 2009 (EST)

And re: the other examples, I think Atlanta, Edmonton and Manchester are all way over-districted. My rule of thumb is that cities under a million can squeeze quite nicely into one page, see eg. Helsinki. (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:53, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I don't know, I feel like they kind of group similar areas together pretty nicely, though they might be better named simply West, Northwest, Hamakita, and Tenryu, since that is how we usually refer to them. I don't see what it hurts to recognize their being part of Hamamatsu. And while some people may still think of some areas as being outside of Hamamatsu, people are unlikely to visit most of those places without also visiting the center. Plus, all the public city transportation for everything is centered at either Hamamatsu or Hamakita. (WT-en) Texugo 23:38, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Also, doing it the other way would cut Lake Hamana away from Hamamatsu, and that is one of the first things people associate with Hamamatsu. (WT-en) Texugo 23:49, 19 February 2009 (EST)

DownUnder

This one isn't open yet. (WT-en) Texugo 07:54, 19 January 2011 (EST)

• <drink name=".DownUnder Cafe .....Bar/Club Opening May 2011" alt="" address="Naka-ku Shinmei-cho 218-17 Shinmei Bld.4F/5F & Roof" directions="http://downunder-cafe.com" phone="090-3333-9996 090-7678-8833" url="http://www.downunder-cafe.com" hours="Fri/Sat from 7PM~5am" price="Prices Very good" lat="34.708316" long="137.728161" chris="Chris" tel="090-3333-9996">DownUnder Cafe is the place to be in Hamamatsu. http://downunder-cafe.com Starting at 7pm relax in the bar located on the 4th floor, watch music videos on the large screen, Chat with the friendly English/Japanese and Portuguese speaking staff. Go to the beer garden on the roof (6th floor) and look at the night sky and the wonderful view of the Hamamatsu sky line.

Now Things are starting to heat up. it’s 11pm!!!! You feel like dancing!!!!! Its time to go to the 5th floor and move that body at DownUnder’s Night Club. Live Djs playing a wide range on music mixes until 5am friday and Saturday night. Door Prize drawn at 3am. Party Time!!!! http://downunder-cafe.com</drink>

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