Talk:Jirisan National Park

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Peer review request

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This acticle need feedback. It's not enough to get to the next level yet. We will take tankfully to about take feedback in any field. Meloncookie (talk) 06:04, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Meloncookie, I am impressed by the work that you and @Hyojin51 did on this article. Your description has made me interested in this park, so you were very successful. I have made a few minor fixes to punctuation, but nothing significant. They are the same tiny mistakes that many native English speakers make. I think you should be very proud of your accomplishment.
The only part that I would like you to look at again is "well-profiled hiking shoes". I'm not sure what that means. Three thoughts:
  • If the good shoes are tall and cover the ankle, then they are hiking boots. A hiking shoe looks like trainers or running shoes. We sometimes call a shoe's or boot's height its "profile". If you mean something taller than everyday shoes, then just say "hiking boots", or "proper hiking boots with ankle protection".
  • If the bottom of the shoe (the sole) should be bumpy, then we say that it has tread (like the bumps on a car tire) or that it is lugged (big rubber bumps, called lugs, on the bottom of a shoe). A horse-riding boot is smooth and flat, so you can slide your feet in or out of the stirrups quickly. A hiking boot is bumpy, because you want it to have traction and grip the rocks, and you don't want to slip and slide. You want deep lugs for gravel and softer, flexible lugs for gripping flat, smooth rocks. We might call these "lug-sole hiking boots with good traction".
  • If you are talking about how strong it is, then we say it is stiff. A soft leather shoe for a baby can be folded in half, like a sock. A flexible boot can be folded a little bit. A very stiff or rigid hiking boot cannot be folded. It usually has a long metal or strong plastic shank (like a stick) hidden in the sole of the boot to prevent bending. The stiffest ones are called mountaineering boots. (They are often warmer, too.) Stiff boots are best for crampons. If this is the goal, then you could write "stiff hiking or mountaineering boots".
I hope my explanation helps you find a clearer description for this.
@Piotrus, I can see from the work accomplished here that your class is very good and that you have every reason to be proud of them. Thank you for bringing them to help us. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:42, 21 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
@WhatamIdoing, fixing ping Meloncookie (talk) 06:19, 25 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

@WhatamIdoing, I aprociate for your detailed opinion. As you said, "well-profiled hiking shoes" was an ambiguous expression. So, I corrected the error with the "proper hiking boots with ankle protection" you suggested'. It's rewarding work. Because there's someone like you take a closer look. Meloncookie (talk) 06:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hey Meloncookie, like WhatamIdoing, I too am impressed with how quickly this article has developed; this is well on its way towards DotM.
In addition to the points made by WhatamIdoing, here are some of mine:
  • please add the country code to all listings that contain them per Wikivoyage:Phone numbers
  • looking at an outline of the park (on OSM), it seems many of the listings, particularly from eat onwards, are outside the park. While there's nothing wrong with these listings, if it is in a settlement that has its own article, the listing should probably be moved to the relevant destination article. See Tombstone Territorial Park#Eat and drink as an example for what an article with no places to eat or drink will look like.
  • time formats will need to conform to WV:TDF.
  • "Get around" claims there are no roads. However, OpenStreetMap suggests that there are two reads
In addition, it would be desirable if:
Otherwise, keep up the great work – this makes me want to visit the park. In the meantime, I've upgraded this to usable per the Wikivoyage:Park article status.
Also, take my apology in advance that all the examples listed were written by me.
--SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:25, 25 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Your advice is very useful. I could see clearly what I was missing! And I tried The sites you sent me as a reference. I think that made me more professional. Thank you for taking the trouble to help me. Meloncookie (talk) 03:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
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