Talk:World Heritage Tour in Nara

Moved in from the article... (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 14:12, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Note

The main author of this article(a wikivoyageer) is willing to guarantee the accuracy of this article. You can email me and ask if this itinerary works when you travel. ocean_view_999@hotmail.co.jp

References

• Nara Sekai Isan Frea Kippu Official Page

http://www.kintetsu.co.jp/senden/Railway/Ticket/sekaiisan_free/sekaiisan_free.html

• Nara-Nishinokyo-Ikaruga Excursion Bus Line Official Page

http://www.narakotsu.co.jp/rosen/kaiyu/index.html

• Nara City Loop Bus Line Official Page

http://www.narakotsu.co.jp/news/news_0112.html

• Ekikara Jikoku Hyo(train timetable)

http://www.ekikara.jp/top.htm

• Nare Prefecture official website for tourism

http://www.pref.nara.jp/nara_e/

Heijo Palace

This appears to be a personal itinerary, so I'm not sure how it could be adjusted, but if this is a real World Heritage Tour, I would think one would actually need to visit each of the sites. The Heijo Palace is only mentioned as being passed by on the train. Admittedly, it is not the most interesting of the sites, but if it's a true World Heritage Tour, none of the sites should be passed up, in my opinion... —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus (talk • contribs)

No, you are definitely allowed to make additions to the itinerary. You should take into account what you've just said, though — add the option of visiting Heijo Palace and identify how it can be done, but note that it is not the most interesting of the sites. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 12:03, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

I added the information, although the very specific train schedule is now wrong. Did the original writer actually see all of these sites in only three days? I have been to Yoshino, and that alone is a day trip. I suspect Yoshino, Ominesan, and the Asuka area would require a day each to visit, especially with the infrequent buses found in Nara Prefecture outside of the capital. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 08:39, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Asuka

Asuka is not currently a World Heritage Site, so I've removed the information about it: The next destination is Asuka. The trains from Yoshino station depart at X:08 and X:38 every hour between 9 and 21 and arrive at Asuka station(13 stops from Yoshino, 2 stops for Kashihara Jingu Mae) or Kashihara Jingu Mae station in 1 hour.

Main article Asuka, Fujiwara

Asuka is a small village with the archaeological sites of Japan's Ancient Capitals before the permanent capital was established in Nara in 710. Nara prefecture government expects it to be inscribed into world heritage list in around 2012. Get off the train and consult at the tourist information at Asuka station. The 3 day pass is also valid for Nara Kotsu Bus service in Asuka. Asuka Official Website (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 03:05, 12 August 2011 (EDT)

This article...

I don't really know where to start. This article looks like a personal itinerary, as noted above in the discussion. Is there some particular reason for having an itinerary for visiting these three World Heritage Sites? Surely there are other provinces in the world with three separate WHS's (I think Beijing with surroundings has five, the same for Rome). I would understand if an article would be about one world heritage site consisting of several components (e.g. "Temples of X"). The article is also rather messy (CAPITAL letters here and there and so on). What do you all think? CW? ϒpsilon (talk) 17:30, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with the premise of seeing the World Heritage Sites in Nara Prefecture, since it is at least plausible with 4-5 days. Parts do need to be rewritten though, and in spite of the "guarantee" at the top that everything is doable, what bothers me the most is that the itinerary is impossible to do as written with the 3 day timeframe. I think a person could reasonably do the Nara City and Horyuji portions, but the Yoshino-Ominesan day is impossible without a car (and even then I don't know if it's doable). I've not been there, but I believe Ominesan requires a bit of walking/hiking for men to reach the actual temple after arriving at the trailhead. I also don't know if there are temples outside of the men-only area where women can worship (like Mount Koya had/has) or if there is nothing for them. Information about each site with a brief description of its "World Heritage" importance would also make the itinerary more appealing. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 14:32, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

The sites themselves do sound interesting. I was more of asking whether an itinerary is needed to visit them or if they could be better described e.g. in the Nara article. Together the sites are on the World Heritage List and located in Nara, but is there something else they have in common? ϒpsilon (talk) 16:07, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

The sites are not just in Nara City, though. Only the Historic Monuments of Ancient Nara listings are located within Nara. The other sites are in Yoshino, Horyuji, and Tenkawa, so this tour was constructed for a World Heritage fanatic to see all of the sites in Nara Prefecture. If the Asuka sites are ever reviewed/approved by the committee, they'd need to be put back into the itinerary, too. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 23:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)