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Aside from being a great contributor to our guides, Dguillaime been active in fighting vandalism and bad faith edits for quite some time, has been a patient and thoughtful participant in discussions with other users, and appears to know the site policies and manual of style quite well. The extra buttons would be in good hands here. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 01:16, 29 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Support: Noticed a good number of janatorial edits here this morning and see no reason to object. (WT-en) Nrms 01:22, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Support. Yep. --(WT-en) Inas 02:15, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Support. He's already one of our most active and experienced janitors, and there have been several times when I really wished he had the buttons already. His contributions to discussions have been fewer than I would generally like to see before a nomination, but when he has commented, he has demonstrated himself to be policy-fluent, knowledgeable, creative, and polite. I think he'd make a great admin. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 02:28, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I'm surprised and flattered. I'd be happy to pick up a few new buttons in the hopes that they still won't need too much use. – (WT-en) Dguillaime 20:21, 29 April 2009 (EDT)

Jan has been wikivoyageling for over two years now and has racked up close to 1000 edits spanning the globe, participating in policy discussion as well. Given the speed at which he nominates spam for deletion, it's time to give him shiny buttons and a mop! (WT-en) Jpatokal 08:14, 9 October 2009 (EDT)

  • Support. Until I actually looked at the list of Administrators, I thought Jan already had that office. Since I became active here Jan has been consistently helpful and clearly has a fine grasp of the Wikivoyage ethos.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:52, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Support. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 17:44, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Support. He certainly knows his way around, and we would all benefit from his having the extra janitorial tools. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:04, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Support. Jan clearly knows what the deal is and how things should work, certainly well enough to be trusted with a few extra buttons. (WT-en) LtPowers 16:40, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Support -- (WT-en) Colin 18:32, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Thank you for your trust. I would be glad to do the janitorial work and look forward to participate further in the community. (WT-en) jan 16:36, 11 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Support. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 16:38, 11 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Support - But people need to stop with these cryptic numerical user names, it's so confusing who's who! other than that the edits seem sound, and the work done good, so I'd by happy with the extra hand when mopping the floor --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 16:47, 11 October 2009 (EDT)
Stefan, the "cryptic numerical" user name is my post/zip code that 2006 in a freezing cold internet cafe in Kuala Lumpur came to my mind when i generated my user account. (WT-en) jan 10:45, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
Oh, and here I thought you were born on March 6, 1981. =) (WT-en) LtPowers 13:28, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
Rereading that it could probably have used a smiley, but oh well --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 15:35, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Sabino434 is an excellent contributor, who understands the collaborative processes, versed in Wikivoyage policies, and has been contributing since mid-2006. Although his niche is languages and he has greatly improved many of the phrasebooks, I think we should give him sysop status so he can help with some of the janitorial work. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 14:23, 5 November 2009 (EST)

Fantastic work on the phrasebooks. Can't say I've noticed him around the corridors with a mop, though.. --(WT-en) inas 14:58, 5 November 2009 (EST)
It's true that you seem him rarely venture outside the realms of the phrasebooks, but I seem him doing serious mopping up of the phrasebooks. Also, in a recent email, he expressed concern about taking care of some vandalism, which someone else took care, which is why I think he should be given the extra buttons. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 15:30, 5 November 2009 (EST)
  • Not yet. He does absolutely fantastic work, and I cannot stress enough how great it is to benefit from his hard work on Wikivoyage. But the main things we look for in nominees are a track record active participation in policy discussions, conflict resolution, janitorial work, clearly demonstrated understanding of our policies and conventions, and how they are formed. Fernando, as excellent as his work may be, has not yet established this track record, so I consider this nomination regrettably premature. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:24, 5 November 2009 (EST)
  • Not yet. It's frustrating that premature nominations such as this might result in a contributor feeling that his participation isn't appreciated — as far as I can tell, Sabino434 has done nothing but good work. However, his participation has indeed been limited exclusively to phrasebooks, which are a fairly small portion of the site, and he has never participated in a policy discussion; also, it's hardly necessary to have admin status to participate in janitorial work (everybody gets the 'undo' button) — plenty of non-admins help out that way — and his collaborative work has been limited at best. I have nothing but encouragement for what he's done so far, but this nomination simply hasn't taken the criteria for being an administrator into account. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 19:25, 5 November 2009 (EST)
  • Not yet. Agree with Gorilla and Peter. However, Sabino434, I would like to hear your thoughts also: are you even interested in becoming an administrator? The extra buttons would not really help at all with phrasebook work. (WT-en) Jpatokal 00:00, 6 November 2009 (EST)
  • Don't Support Judging by the message posted on his/her Talk Page, this user would not (and doesn't wish to) utilize any of the Administrator privileges, which is fine, because as others have stated, the work s/he is doing on the phrasebooks is great! If the user had a change of heart about his/her talk page statement and worked more elsewhere, of course, I could be convinced to change my mind. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 00:36, 6 November 2009 (EST)
  • Why? - While they may be an excellent contributor, that does not necessarily make for a good wiki administrator. I see no evidence that Sabino434 even has a need for administrator rights. An administrator needs to interact with other users, collaborate with them on work, foster a sense of community and be prepared to do maintenance work, like nominating pages for deletion, welcoming and challenging users, asking questions, identifying problems with article and fixing them, contributing to policy discussions, reporting bugs, etc. I see none of that. Although Sabino434 has been a registered user since 2006, most of this user's edits are since December 2008. There are no edits to article talk pages, and only one edit to a user talk page other than their own. Also there are few edits to any pages other than those related to phrasebooks. That means there is insufficient evidence for me to judge if Sabino434 would make a good administrator. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Sabino434 cannot be an administrator - they might be an excellent one - all I am saying is that there is insufficient evidence for me to make a judgement. In some respects, Administrator Rights are unwiki, so the users that possess those rights should be ones who are able to be trusted with those rights and be willing to be held accountable for exercising those rights responsibly and with discretion. At this time I cannot be certain that granting Sabino434 would be beneficial. - (WT-en) Huttite 06:13, 6 November 2009 (EST)
  • Don't know - I'd like to hear what Fernando himself has to say on the subject. Is there some reason that he needs the admin bit that he's mentioned Andrew out-of-band? -- (WT-en) Mark 11:31, 7 November 2009 (EST)

A quick perusal of this user's contributions should show why he(?) would benefit from a few additional buttons - he does a massive amount of recent changes patrolling, has almost single-handedly converted Bali from a convoluted mass of touty-listings into a great guide, is now making maps, and has made some insightful contributions to policy discussions. If he doesn't deserve the extra buttons then a few of us who already have them probably don't either :) -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 23:37, 29 November 2009 (EST)

  • Support unequivocally. I've been complementing nominating Burmesedays myself for a while, but you beat me to it. Great work being done and I'm confident the buttons will be put to good use. And besides it's always good to have further time zone coverage among admins. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 00:00, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Support. Got a solid understanding of the way things do work, and a positive attitude to the way things should work. Writes great guides too. --(WT-en) inas 01:06, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Support. -- (WT-en) Colin Jensen 03:56, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Support (WT-en) Pashley 08:12, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Support He does an excellent job in plunging forward the Bali article and is a good contributor for the community. Was fun to work from the first minute. (WT-en) jan 08:31, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • I am still writing my acceptance speech...... or is that presumptious? :) :) More seriously, thank you all very much and I would of course be honored to accept should there be no objections. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:58, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Strong support. Great patroller, mapmaker, writer, interlocutor, etc., and a good friendly addition to the janitorial staff! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 10:59, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Support – (WT-en) cacahuate talk 12:52, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Support. (WT-en) Peter (Southwood) Talk 14:49, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Support. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 18:50, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Support. An easy decision. - (WT-en) Dguillaime 19:09, 30 November 2009 (EST)
  • Better late than never (how'd I miss this?), so support and the bit is now toggled. (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:20, 15 December 2009 (EST)
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