Talk:Central Luxembourg

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Wauteurz, Ikan Kekek, I think we should revise this title too (see Talk:Moselle District) because Guttland is a much broader area.

Briefly Luxembuourg can be divided into 2 regions:

• Oesling: mountain area, more or less equal to the current Luxembourgian Ardennes
• Gutland: plain area, more or less all the rest that here has been divided into 4 regions

For this reason I would call this article Central Luxembourg (as already specified in bold in the main article). --Andyrom75 (talk) 11:26, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I have no special knowledge about Luxembourg and would defer to Wauteurz and other people who know the country. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:46, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Like I said on Talk:Moselle District, it's been a hot minute since I've been to Luxembourg, so my information is likely somewhat outdated. Again, the titles are largely based off of what I found back in tourism flyers back in 2017. The borders between the combination of districts that I used here and visitluxembourg.com are somewhat different, but still this is the closest approximation I could make to what they cover as Guttland. I recall having a good debate with myself as to what to name this region since Guttland indeed didn't seem to have well-defined boundaries. If anything, should Guttland indeed be too broad, I'd wish for it to just be named "Central Luxembourg", which is the most descriptive alternative I know of. When debating on what to call this region, I was conflicted about the name to where I ended up listing it as an alternative name on Luxembourg for that exact reason.

As for the name Oesling, I like it, but if Luxembourgian Ardennes were to renamed, I'd prefer to use the Luxembourgian "Éislek", since the Oesling region does span across parts of Germany as well. That's not what we're discussing here though.

Alternatively, I guess the regions could be redefined, so Guttland is more Guttland-shaped, but this will also alter the borders of the Luxembourgian Ardennes and Mullerthal. It's an option at the least, but not one I'm keen to go for, seen as how I am not sure to what extend those exact regions are a creation of Luxembourg's tourist board. In the end, I thought I made "Central Luxembourg" a redirect to here, but it turns out I didn't. I'd be more than happy to rename this page to Central Luxembourg, and redirect Guttland to here, or to make a disambiguation page out of it.
-- Wauteurz (talk) 13:14, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Wauteurz, thanks for your reply. I agree with you that the border between Oesling and Gutland is not well defined so I would avoid to use any of them. I support the name change to "Central Luxembourg" but I'm not so sure on the redirect. The usual approach is to have a redirect of a smaller area into a bigger one, and the redirect of Guttland to "Central Luxembourg" would be the opposite. According to this habit we should redirect Guttland directly to the Luxembourg main article. --Andyrom75 (talk) 13:32, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I know, hence the "make a disambiguation out of it". Make it a simple disambig stating simply "Guttland is the name of a large area of Luxembourg. These parts being...". In my perception, linking it to Luxembourg doesn't seem that handy, since that also contains the Ardennes, which are definitely not Guttland. At the end of the day, this is just me being specific about something that doesn't mean a whole lot. You've definitely got my support for just moving this page to Central Luxembourg, and redirecting this page to Luxembourg. It's definitely not a huge deal :)
-- Wauteurz (talk) 13:40, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I got your point and I think it's a fair approach. I'll move the title and create a draft of the disambig, then feel free to improve it :-) --Andyrom75 (talk) 13:51, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. I've also fixed all the links and the category. --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)