Talk:Monschau

Translate tag

Why was the translate tag removed? Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:53, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

I already wrote on your talk page. It's common courtesy not to jump in and start tagging articles that people are clearly working on. In fact, we prefer original content over translations. The translation tag is a way to encourage people to work on an article by pointing them to an easy and usable source, but if someone is willing to create something new, all the better. Best, JuliasTravels (talk) 13:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok. Seeing the amount of effort that went into it, the translate tag would not be needed any more anyway. However I myself sometimes include it in pages I recently created. imho the translate tag has an added benefit for the reader that (s)he can look at the "better" language version if (s)he speaks said language (not at all unreasonable to assume, given our intended readership)--Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:23, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't places fro coffee / hot chocolate be in the "drink" section?

I have always taken the "drink" section to include more than just alcohol and nightlife. In fact in some remote places we provide information on where to get water and how to treat it. I think any place that primarily deals in drinkable liquids (be they alcoholic, caffeinic or drug-free) should be listed under "drink" shouldn't it? Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:21, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Sure. However, this town doesn't really have any places that deal primarily in drinkable liquids. They all do breakfast, lunch and mostly dinner too. A separate drink section is of no use for this place. For small towns or places where no proper distinction can be made, policy explicitly allows such sections to be combined (same for See & Do). When doing that, however, I noticed the "add listing" section link disappears. As I was testing the new listing tool, I renamed the section back to Eat only. I'm meaning to ask some of the relevant people about that, but haven't gotten around to it. JuliasTravels (talk) 13:01, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok. Well maybe this is just semantics in German, but most of the time drinking a coffee for leisure (as opposed to the quintessential office coffee) implies the cake or whatever other accompanying food. I.e. "Kaffee trinken" is usually equal in actual meaning to "Kaffee und Kuchen". But that may a semantic issue that is unique to German or just my understanding of the German language. Anyway... I am fine with those places being listed under "eat" but of course having an "eat and drink" section might be closer to the truth... But it is not all that major an issue Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:22, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're trying to advocate, really, or what you think I disagree with here? :-) I'm not saying that any coffee shop or bar that serves cakes or even a small menu on the side should always be in the eat section, when it's clearly primarily a bar or coffee shop. I'm only saying that in Monschau, there's not really that kind of distinction between eating and drinking. This is the case in many small towns in this region (Belgium and the Netherlands too, for example.) In fact, many of the places that call themselves café here, are much like French bistros in terms of what they offer. Unlike many restaurants , they don't mind if you only sit down for drinks, but serving food is just as well their core business. For a traveller, these are often among the best budget options to eat, so more often than not, they fit well in the "eat" section. We've always just approached this kind of thing with common sense. But yes, this will be an "Eat & Drink" section later on :-) JuliasTravels (talk) 14:51, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I am not disagreeing, I guess what I was trying to say is that if we have to separate eat and drink, Cafés should be in "drink". But I agree with you that the separation is not currently needed. Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:19, 21 July 2015 (UTC)