Talk:Sabarimala

Some questions

First, is it impossible for someone to visit Sabarimala to observe and not to pray?

Second, are the instructions of what devotees do too detailed? They certainly seem a lot more detailed than remarks in the Mecca article, and even the Hajj article. I don't think it's necessary for us to provide exhaustive details on what chants need to be chanted, etc. The risk to me in this article is to cross the line from information to religious instruction. Even the articles about different religions like Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism, though certainly not perfect, do not go into detail on how to pray.

Third, if — and only if — we do choose to keep this level of detail in instruction on how to do this puja, it's actually not detailed enough. For example, there is a reference to "puja materials". What materials are those? It's also unclear that all readers will know what Dharma is. I see there's no mention of dharma in the Hinduism article, either, and there probably should be, so maybe it should be covered it a bit there. Additionally, if we do need to tell people what to chant, what does "Swamiye Saranam Ayyappa" mean? But maybe this is the most important sentence when it comes to more than the essential facts: "Check with local tourism office or Ayyappa Seva offices to know about rituals, pooja timings, etc.". How about linking their websites? Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:46, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

One, it is possible anyone to visit SAbarimala to observe provided they keep away from the 18 holy steps.

Two, I will reduce the length of the ritual part.

Three, I will add the web site of Ayyappa Seva Samith, if I can find it.

Regards, Prof tpms (talk) 06:02, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

The information that it's possible for non-pilgrims to visit Sabarimala is really important for prospective travellers to know. I think that what's still in "Understand" should probably remain there, as we do want to keep significant background in the article that explains how this place is important and special. The meaning of the chant probably should be explained, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:18, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I understand the concern. A place of this much foucs will also attract visitors who just want to see what is going on. After reaching the temple, there is a distinction between Ayyappas and non-Ayyappas because certain areas are reserved for the Ayyappas. In peak pilgrim season, it isnot advisible to visit the place if you are not an Ayyapa. Read 'Be safe' section in the article. Regards, Prof tpms (talk) 06:24, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I have given the meaning of the chanting in the Understand section itself. Prof tpms (talk) 06:25, 18 May 2015 (UTC)