Talk:Judaean Mountains

Merge

Judaean Mountains doesn't contain much information and won't probably in the future because it is basically just a mountain range. If any relevant information turns up, it can easily be added as part of Judaean Desert. I would though shortly mention the Judaean Mountains under Judaean Mountains. Objections? Ceever (talk) 20:02, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Actually it is marked as an extra-hierarchy article, which means it sits outside of our standard structure. See Mountain_ranges for other examples.

Additionally they cross (politics aside) two countries, Israel and Palestinian. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 21:02, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Nobody calls it "Palestinian" I have heard the names Judea/Samaria, West Bank, Palestine, (territory administrated by the) Palestinian Authority, and Palestinian Territories, but never just "Palestinian". Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:24, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Whoa, easy there! Looks like an autocorrect mistake so no need to call out the spelling police. I think we can have a little less pedantry for spelling on the Talk pages? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:36, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

[Edit conflict] You're right, but the points are made. There's no need to merge an extra-hierarchical region. The one problem I see with this article is that the images extend far down below the end of the page. I'll work on that a bit, but I'm not sure it can be solved easily. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:38, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry if I came across as impolite, but I had seen this crop up more than once, so I wanted to point it out. The easiest way to fix the wall of images is by having more text... Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:42, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

No buts. Even if you saw this on the main page (which it wasn't) then the appropriate action is just to correct it, not pen a diatribe. Also you missed the point being made because of that minor spelling mistake. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 23:31, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

I would not have raised the issue if this had been the first time I saw Palestinian or Palestinian and one of those instances was in mainspace. At any rate, if we think this is not a worthwhile article, there is no place to merge or redirect it to, so the only options are retention or deletion. And I think the decision for retention has been made. Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:41, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

[unindent] The easiest way to fix the problem of too many images for the amount of text was to remove one thumbnail. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:28, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

What I am a little confused about is, why are we having so many semi-useful tiny articles instead of creating one that contains all information in a compacted and accumulated form. Sure, I understand that at a certain level it will make sense to split up information. However, this article currently looks to me like a WikiPedia article, it doesn't have any useful information for travellers and it probably won't in the future. Or even worse, it will contain more information in the future that are duplicates of the West Bank information. Either way, before any traveller finds this article, he will have probably given up on WikiVoyage due to the maze-wise and sometimes low quality of information. Ceever (talk) 08:44, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

This kind of general complaint doesn't help us move forward. You made a proposal that is not in keeping with the site's WV:Breadcrumb navigation, in that the Palestinian Territories and Israel are treated as different entities on this site. I don't mean to sound rude and hope I don't but: Make another proposal, or give up, but why post pointless complaints? Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Sure, you are right. Just want to keep everything tidy to help the traveller. Also, did not see the answers some days before because the "Watch this page" checkbox is not doing anything for me. Thank you. Ceever (talk) 13:37, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

There should be a star in the upper right corner of the edit box (next to "view history") if that star is white, that means the page is not on your watchlist. If the star is blue, that means it is. You might also want to have a look at the settings of your watchlist. Usually talk pages are displayed by default, but you might have disabled that by accident. Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:18, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

It's not a bug, it's a feature. Apparently, I was expecting watchlist updates to appear under notifications, which they don't. C'est la vie ... I will open the watchlist from now on ... Thx & *thumbup* Ceever (talk) 16:50, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

[unindent] I agree with Ceever's complaints, and I similarly think the article has zero or negative value. However, if we cannot delete it, I think we should only link to it in cases where it's not confusing. As it so happens, it's linked to in very few places, and we're almost there. Ar2332 (talk) 21:20, 12 March 2017 (UTC)