Talk:Mount Fuji

Food is not brought on foot there, it was may be 20-30 years ago. They use mountain buldozers for that. Alice-chan

External links

I removed the following, but am putting it here for reference and future research:

A full list of huts (in English) with phone numbers is available hereand here.

Fujiyoshida's official website has more updated info on the Kawaguchiko trail's huts.

Please don't re-insert these links, but feel free to use them as a research tool to expand the sleep section on this article. – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 15:51, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

conflicting costs at the summit

The following 2 lines are in the same section... which one shall we keep?

• As all materials have to be hauled up by tractors, food and drink prices are high and rise the closer you get to the summit. For example, a vending machine at the summit sells drinks and cans of corn soup for ¥400.

• The summit has fewer people staying overnight and many more people resting, so the price of a cup of tea or a bowl of noodles is somewhat more reasonable.

? – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 16:16, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

IIRC (it's been a few years) they're both correct. Huts on the slopes don't usually let you stop and eat unless you also pay the resting fee (~1000 yen/hour); huts atop do, so that ¥1000 bowl of noodles is still cheaper than the ¥800+1000 bowl of noodles at the 8th station. (WT-en) Jpatokal 17:38, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Well, there ya have it! – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 18:05, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Climbing times

Sorry, I don't believe two hours to the top at walking pace is reasonable. There's a race to the top and back every year, and although that's all the way from the bottom (2x the distance), even the hardened pros seem to struggle to manage it in four. (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:13, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

I'd believe two hours for a trained athlete in a hurry during the day, but doing that at night would be unsafe - it's not like there's a sidewalk on the way up - and potentially unhealthy for a non-athlete, not to mention frequently impossible because of the crowds. Athlete or not, doing it during the day blows right past some impressive views on the way up, so I'm not sure why anyone would want to do it in two hours. The current phrasing iss appropriate. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 08:08, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

not many views at night... 83.146.12.132 08:16, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

From my experiences 2 days ago I think a healthy person could walk it to the top (from the 5th station) in 2 hours. Certainly none of us ran at any point and all 4 of us made it to the top and had to sit there and freeze for 4 hours to wait for the sunrise. The officially quoted times seem appropriate for extended families and the like. 83.146.12.132 07:33, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Which 5th station, Kawaguchiko? (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:55, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

right Kawaguchiko 83.146.12.132 08:14, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Gotenba

If travelling via Gotenba: The last bus up the mountain leaves around 5 pm. If you have water purification equipment, there is free rainwater at the 6th, 7th and 8th stations. There is no mountain house at the 9th station You should have gaiters for the climb down, as otherwise your shoes will fill with sand while running through the ash field between the 6th and 5th stations. I was told by someone working at one of the mountain huts that there is no need to make reservations to stay at the mountain houses on this route on the weekdays (although it doesn't hurt). There is no need to bring T.P.- all the bathrooms have it. The only functional vending machines on this route are at the bus stop at the 5th station and at the souveneir shop at the 5th station(which is closed at night). I ate curry rice recently at the hut at the 8th station with no rest fee charged (800 yen total). Perhaps whether or not a rest fee is charged while eating varies from hut to hut?

Naming

Yes, Mount Fuji is within Fuji-Izu-Hakone National Park, but "Fuji-Izu-Hakone National Park/Mount Fuji" is a terrible name. We haven't districted national parks before, I don't think we should start now. (Except Kruger National Park, which I still think is handled wrong now. If it's big enough to be a region, its subparts should be small city destinations.) (WT-en) Jpatokal 09:33, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

Agreed. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 18:29, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

Off-season permission

Someone has twice removed the statement that you need official permission to climb in the off-season. Does anyone want to argue that that's not true? (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 00:21, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

It appears that, while permission is not strictly necessary, you are not allowed to use the roads that go up the mountain [1] and you are "strongly encouraged" to file a climbing plan (登山計画書) [2]. I've edited the article accordingly. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:04, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

Directions

Why do all the directions assume you're coming from Tokyo? Very confusing when Nagoya and other cities also have Chuo lines.

And yes, I'd be glad to update it myself if I figure this out. 220.110.51.42 07:40, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Webcams

I normally delete mentions of webcams without a second thought, because they are not about travel but instead about vicarious travel, as you can view them from home. But is this an exception, in that you could see an eruption before it was noticed by authorities who would post a warning? I doubt it, but I'd like some comments before I delete the mention of and link to one. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't think you can notice an eruption from the webcams before the authorities see it coming (I assume the mountain is monitored, at least indirectly). If we keep the mention, the reason as I see it would be to avoid unnecessary travel to a crowded destination, or to allow travellers to get a better understanding of what preparations might be needed. This mountain is hardly a unique case – should we have a general discussion on what merit we want to give such reasons? –LPfi (talk) 06:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, because until now, we've deleted listings or mentions of webcams, for the reasons I stated. I think we should discuss this further in Wikivoyage talk:Listings. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Does "webcam" mean "live feed/video"? If so, there are numerous live feeds of Mount Fuji. The main reason they are useful is to check visibility before going. Many famous spots have live feeds, so if you are traveling to that spot, you can compare the weather forecast to the live video to see if you want to go. If Mount Fuji is visible, you might go with some level of confidence to see the view and take pictures. If not, you can decide whether to take the risk of it clearing up or not. I don't know if we should link these feeds. I think it opens up a can of worms for tracking live feeds all over the place. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 13:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that's clearly what the editor who added it meant. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC)