Talk:Fortaleza

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Maps on city bus routes

I have drawn a number of google maps[1] on city bus routes, mostly for my own personal reference. Due to some Wikivoyage policies, I cannot link to these from the article. I hope that someone with more time and/or skills than myself could convert these into an acceptable format.--(WT-en) Mariusm98 06:32, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Did you get GPS traces of bus routes, or just copied the bus routes from some other map? If you have raw GPX files, I could use them.

I've been working on the OpenStreetMap map of Fortaleza. I gathered a bit more data while I was there last week. It needs a lot more basic street coverage before we start adding bus routes to the data though.

-- (WT-en) Harry Wood 21:14, 5 January 2010 (EST)

I have simply followed the local transport authorities' description of the routes, as found here

http://www.etufor.ce.gov.br/sit_web/itinerarios.aspx

and then drawn them into google maps. Absolutely no GPS involved.

(WT-en) Mariusm98 16:29, 17 July 2010 (EDT)

Good Information

I lived in Fortaleza for 6 months and learned the area pretty well. Whoever wrote this article knows his stuff. I would also probably add that the areas around Dragão do Mar can be dangerous at night, but as long as you stay within the main plaza (which also has armed guards walking around), you'll be fine. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 24.252.35.195 (talk • contribs)

Please feel free to plunge forward and add what you think is missing from the article. – (WT-en) Vidimian 06:59, 2 December 2010 (EST)

DotM/OtBP nom?

This article is classed as a Guide, but is it ready for a front-page feature nom? It looks like it could use a few more well-chosen photos and some copy editing (e.g., I think this means Subway is sharing the space, but "cohabiting" means living together and refers to people: "Babagula, more sandwiches, playground for children. Subway is cohabiting."). I also changed some external links in the deprecated footnote style to front-linked, but I may have missed some, and some external links still in the article might not be in keeping with external links#what not to link to. What else? Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:58, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Maybe new banner? I don't find the port too inviting. Jjtkk (talk) 09:48, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, that's an improvement. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:21, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Let's change the banner, says the creator of it. The port can maybe be reused in Ceará? ϒpsilon (talk) 11:02, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely, given that that article has no banner. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:37, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Map

Since the map already constituted an entire screen of the article, I widened it and recentered it so as to include the Praia do Futuro, which seemed important, as it's described in the article as "the most attractive urban beach". I think this is absolutely the largest number of POIs that can be shown on one screen of a map, as resetting the zoom level to 13 would cause a whole bunch of POIs to be behind yellow plus signs. My only question is whether the map on the page is now such a large file that it will make it difficult to download the article on cell phones, but if that were the case, surely a page-sized map wouldn't load, and this onscreen map covers enough POIs to make that step unnecessary except when you want to see the airport or a few other POIs that are off the map.

What do you all think? Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:20, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, last night when I first saw it, it was so huge in my screen that got my browser a horizontal roll bar, not very sightly. Today I have no horizontal bar but still lots of yellow plus signs. I happen to like big dynamic maps onscreen, and for me, a map of this size can be said "non plus ultra". Cannot comment on cell phones, as I never see maps when I go "mobile" on our pages. Ibaman (talk) 12:50, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

That map is absolutely too large, the largest one on the whole site, and unjustifiably so. The city doesn't even have the peculiar east-west linear orientation that necessitates centering. In trying to show the maximum number of non-collapsed POIs, if there were a mandate strong enough to chase everything else off the screen and go full-screen to achieve that, then we'd be going full width and height like that for every large city article we've got, but with dynamic zoomable maps, there is no need for us to go that far. This one at right is entirely sufficient and fully in keeping with the way we've done maps across the site so far. I'm going to put it in the article at this more standard size, and I hope that's okay, because if we're going to blast it full volume like that, I think we need some consensus for that kind of exception here first. Texugo (talk) 13:45, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, the map server seems to be on the fritz again, so I can't see the map you added. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:45, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, now I can see the huge regional map you restored. I think it ill-serves the traveller. It's OK if you don't want a map file as large as I made it last night, but with the caveat that I haven't been to the area, it seems to me that a map that covers some of the city center at zoom level 14 is much more useful than this. Rather than this, I'd almost prefer eliminating the map from the article to save loading time and substituting a "click here" button for a popup map. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:58, 13 April 2015 (UTC)