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Un-recommended

• Café Universal, 26 bd du Pont-d'Arve. Friendly spot with a fantastic selection of starter plates and good main dishes with quite a few vegetarian options. One of the most snooty stuck-up places in geneva. overpriced and terrible service. http://www.resto-rang.ch/info.cfm?restono=459

I noticed that someone changed this to an un-recommendation. Actually I've had a bad experience there recently, and since I wrote the original review (I think, or was it MAJ?) I'm going to go ahead an strike the recommendation for this place -- (WT-en) Mark 13:40, 18 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Weird, I thought they were really one of the less snooty places in Geneva. Maybe something's changed or I just always got them in a good mood. I agreee I'd rather have no review than a negative one, and it's not like there aren't plenty of other recomendations on the page... but still, it's too bad. (WT-en) Majnoona 18:03, 18 Apr 2004 (EDT)

I like the room and the clientel, but lately the staff has just been rubbing me the wrong way somehow. Also while the menu used to be vegi friendly it's not anymore. I'd prefer to open up the space for a couple of other places in Geneva that have opened in the last six months. -- (WT-en) Mark 20:18, 18 Apr 2004 (EDT)

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Can you re-take the "intro" picture? It's a good angle, but unfortunately low quality with odd contrast/shadows/whateveryoucallit. -- (WT-en) Nils 03:26, 15 Jul 2004 (EDT)

I think the problem is with the over-abundance of JPEG tiling. I'm afraid the problem though is with the quality of my camera. If somebody who has a better camera would like to duplicate the shot it was taken from outside of a resto called "Le Terrace Panoramique" in a building on Quai de Sujet. -- (WT-en) Mark 04:07, 15 Jul 2004 (EDT)

La décadanse

I removed this listing since I thought it was an external guide, thus not appropriate for our external links:

• La Décadanse. If you want to stay up to date on what is happening in the underground circuit of Geneva, you should definately visit http://www.darksite.ch/ladecadanse At this page you will each week find a program of all the activities in the underground scene of Geneva. From Music to bar-review to cheap cinema (how about watching classics for 2 franc at Kinetik?)

--(WT-en) Evan 12:53, 12 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Removed content

I think the following could be mined for information, but needs to be rewritten to better match our Project:Manual of style, specificly avoiding the first person and negative reviews. (WT-en) Maj 22:30, 13 August 2006 (EDT)

If you are looking for a hotel at the lake, you should consider if you would like a room with view on the lake (vue lac) or city (vue cite) and if you want it the north side of the lake (vue lac would mean having sun all the day on your balcony) or on the south side (usually cheaper, but vue lac would be without sun, but who stays the whole day in the hotel anyway). For the southern border the Hotel Metropole is a good choice, for the northern border the Beau Rivage. Be aware that you may get a room in those hotels for already below 500Chf, but if you want vue lac, it's basically reserved for the better rooms from 800Chf on.

• Noga Hilton Geneve, 19, Quai du Mont-Blanc, Geneva, CH, Tel: +41-(0)22-908 9081 Fax: +41-(0)22-908 9090, about 1 Km from city center. Upscale, modern 4-star hotel with all the conveniences a business traveler needs, including high-speed internet access, beautiful gift shoppes, fitness center, spa and pool, and a comfortable bar/lounge in lobby to meet business associates. Rates from 350CHF. In my opinion avoid the Hilton, famous name, hotel itself is okay, but it's style is modern for 70s... and do not expect good service or clean toilets in the restaurant on the second floor, it may be part of hilton, but does fail it's standards. Noga Hilton Geneve

• I removed the following line from Parc des Bastions: "Free wi-fi (Lies! I've been there on 10.05.08. There is one network listed "ville-de-geneve" and it's not free) access in the whole park." I did a quick search on the internet, but couldn't find anything about wi-fi. If anyone knows differently, feel free to add it back in. (WT-en) Kaci 10:32, 16 July 2008 (PST)

Un-recommended

• Hotel Moderne Geneva, rue de Berne 1, tél: +41(0)22 732 81 00, fax : +41(0)22 738 26 58 - This hotel is very expensive for what it offers. (Even if Geneva is an expensive city). Staff were generally non responsive and unhelpful. Breakfast was from hell, coffee was the worst I had in my life (A small jug of concentrated coffee was left for everyone in the room to share). The tea was also terrible, which I tried the next day. The breakfast staff were so rude, the girl came to our table and lifted our key on the table to check our room number, without looking or talking to us. Then she made a huge noise cleaning up the breakfast room promptly at 10am on a weekend, encouring us to leave ASAP since breakfast was now closed (We arrived at 9.45). Staying in this hotel made me feel like a poor backpacker again, although the price was CHF 149 (EUR 100) per night. Avoid this hotel at all costs.

Needs an overhaul...

..and I keep meaning to do it.

I do think that the article deserves its 'Usable', butr really it needs to be split into two articles, one for Geneva city and one for Geneva canton, they aren't exaclty co-terminous. The main reason for my wanting to do this is that we don't really have room in the article as it exists now for coverage of Carouge, which should be extensive. We should probably also provide some coverage of a couple of other villages like Petit and Grand Saconnex and Petit and Grand Lancy, as well as Chêne Bourg, and of course the outlying vineyards.

I'd like to do this work, but I can never seem to find time. -- (WT-en) Mark 09:57, 4 February 2007 (EST)

Universite de Geneve

Shouldn't there be anything about the Universite de Geneve and HEI in the education section? After all, they are both very renowned (according to Newsweek the best university in the continent), especially compared to those joke english-language universities in the canton...

Languages - Swiss?

I noticed that under the list of languages you can hear in Geneva is "you will also occasionally hear Swiss, German, and Italian." and as far as I know, there is no formal Language called "Swiss" (Unless the editor meant Rumantsch) so either I'm mistaken and there is a swiss language (fully possible) or it is a typo meant to say "Swiss German" or should be removed. Any input? 212.23.248.130 11:03, 17 July 2008 (EDT) Dane Meister

"Eat" section - Regional specialties?

Are there any regional specialties in geneva? Seems like most other swiss cities offer some kind of recommendation. For example "The quintessential Zürich dish is Zürigschnätzlets, veal in a cream and wine sauce. Various kinds of grilled Wurst (sausages) are also popular. These are most often accompanied by boiled potatoes, Rösti, a Swiss potato pancake (grated potato, formed into a pancake then pan fried until crisp in butter or oil) or Chnöpfli, in German sometimes called Spätzle, (small noodle dumplings)." from the Zurich page. —The preceding comment was added by 203.126.210.99 (talk • contribs)

TPG link

http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Anglais/EHomepage/Accueil.htm is broken, and has been for at least a few months, as the new TPG site does not, in fact, have an English language version. (The French home page has a link which does nothing but has a tooltip saying "Coming soon".) - Amgine (talk) 11:22, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

They have had an English version of the page, but now it looks like they've removed it. I guess we'll have to do with the French version, it's better than nothing at all. ϒpsilon (talk) 14:27, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Districts?

Surprisingly someone has created a very short article for the suburb/village of Meyrin. If we decide to keep it, why not go all the way and chop up Geneva in some districts?Preferably so that the districts would comprise the whole canton. I’m thinking:

• Rive-Plainpalais: A triangle south of Rhône and north of Arve, and west of Boulevard Helvetique. In other words, the southern downtown.
• Paquis-Servette: The northern downtown almost to the UN so that it’s delimited by Av de la Paix, Av Giuseppe Motta, Av Wendt and down to the Rhone.
• Outer North and West: Further west and north of the latter.
• South: Everything south of Rhône and Arve.
• East: Everything east of the Rive-Plainpalais district.

Thoughts? ϒpsilon (talk) 09:24, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Anyone? ϒpsilon (talk) 07:36, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Getting in very late here, but I don't think that there's really enough to see in Geneva to justify such a change Nick-D (talk) 23:51, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

As for Meyrin, the article is the barest of bare outlines. While there is a policy to not delete real places, in its current form it does little good... Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:47, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Let's redirect Meyrin to Geneva, then. ϒpsilon (talk) 15:57, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

What good does that do? Some people might actually be looking for that place (unlikely, I know) and Geneva does not mention it in any way. Or does it? It seems that it's main claim to fame is its association with CERN. Is there any visitors center or the likes? Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:20, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Meyrin is one out of 45 municipalities of Geneva, i.e. a suburb. If the Meyrin article is kept one may ask why not the other ~35-40 municipalities where there isn't much to see shouldn't each get one too. Yes, CERN is there but not much else and CERN is already described in the main Geneva article. ϒpsilon (talk) 16:33, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Should we create redirects for each of the other municipalities then? Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:37, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

No, but as this is a real place, policy is to redirect the article to the closest larger place instead of deleting it. ϒpsilon (talk) 16:43, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Splitting into districts?

Should we include articles on the sub-districts of this city, like the Minneapolis and Chicago articles do, e.g. one for Plainpalais, one for Ariana etc. ? --Walkden861 (talk) 19:08, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

In the discussion right above this one, districts were deemed unnecessary as of now. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:26, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Power plugs/sockets

I just found that Switzerland doesn't use the Shucko plugs/sockets, and the article doesn't seem to mention it. I think it would be a worthy addition but I'm not sure where... Any ideas? --O andras (talk) 09:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

The place to address what type of electric sockets a country uses is Switzerland#Cope. (And I just noticed that there is no information about electric sockets in United States of America, a big oversight.) Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:03, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

I think it is quite rare for country articles to mention plug type in Cope. It is in the fact box of Understand ({{quickbar}}), also for USA, and USA is the first country mentioned in the table in Electrical systems#Plugs, sockets and adapters. But in United States of America it says "NEMA 1-15, NEMA 5-15" – and "NEMA" isn't mentioned in Electrical systems. Are those designations synonymous to "Type A/B 'American'", listed in the table?

The quickbar in Switzerland says "Europlug, SEV 1011". Neither "SEV" is mentioned in Electrical systems (and Switzerland isn't mentioned either).

–LPfi (talk) 19:06, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Of course, when a country has issues with the electrical system, or they use something else than the standard of most countries in the region, such as a European country not using the Schuko, there should be a comment in Cope. Should there be a mention also in Finland#Cope? Even if we do the natural thing :-) –LPfi (talk) 19:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

It's OK with me if the information is in "Understand." Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:33, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

It's in the quickbar, not in the running text. –LPfi (talk) 19:51, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

I thought the information in the quickbar in the United States article was insufficient because it didn't mention the shapes of plugs in any way I recognized. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:57, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

It should link the descriptions in the Electrical systems article, and that article should explain the nomenclature. I think also a note in Cope would be useful, as some Europeans might not expect voltages, frequencies and plugs to be different. But perhaps that should go in Travel basics. I added a paragraph there (in Pack). –LPfi (talk) 21:21, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for the replies! I didn't think of checking the Switzerland article (obviously should've!), and I didn't know plugs/sockets were already documented in another page. I see that both pages could be improved about this. Maybe after this coming trip :)

I digged a bit online about the topic, and from my understanding: Switzerland uses Schuko type J, while most of the rest of Europe uses type F (according to Wikipedia). Type C (a 2-pin plug/socket kinda similar to type J; e.g. phone chargers) is common in Portugal too, at least (according to me). I also saw online that type C plugs are compatible with type J sockets (and type F sockets). --O andras (talk) 10:42, 23 June 2022 (UTC)