Talk:Mountains to Sound Greenway

There's gotta be a better name for this. (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:34, 17 October 2006 (EDT)

I shortened the name from "Mountains to Sound Greenway / I-90 over Snoqualmie Pass" to just "Mountains to Sound Greenway". That seems better. Not sure this will make an article, but will do some edits and give it a chance. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 16:59, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

External links

Please see Project:External links. We'd like to have the information, and not just a link, here svp. (WT-en) Maj 15:12, 23 October 2006 (EDT)

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Mountains to Sound Greenway

Per the one year rule for itineraries. Moreover, itineraries don't have a "do" section. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:16, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

• Delete: No clear route. Adding a "Do" section shouldn't be a deletion reason, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:38, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
• Keep since it is a real route, and "a designated National Scenic Byway". Pashley (talk) 09:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

  But it still meets the one year criteria. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:05, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

No-one is questioning that the route exists, but the article is not usable, so I don't see how it's useful to keep the article in its current form. We could merge some information and redirect the term to the relevant Washington region article, or someone could add a clear, usable definition of the route to this article, but just leaving it as is isn't much of a service to travelers. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:51, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

• Keep, but the article needs a rethink. Could it function better as an extraregion or travel topic? It lacks the identification of a clear route, perhaps because that's not the purpose of this article? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:33, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

  @SelfieCity Would merging this article anywhere seem appropriate? I can't seem to think of any proper place to merge this into, but again, the issue is merging is it lacks the identification of a clear route so... not sure tbh. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:07, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

If anybody knows the area very good this article can be about outdoor recreation (winter and summer) as well listing cities and towns in these areas such as Leavenworth, Wentatchee, Skykomish, Cle Elum, Ellensburg, Snoquamie Pass, North Bend, Issaquah, etc. It doesn't have to be about travel along I-90. So I say Keep. There are plenty of other articles (especially about certain parts of a country or state) that can serve as a template of some sort to formulate this article. Anyone150 (talk) 03:03, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

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Outcome: no consensus. No route identified, nor is "real route" a valid reason to keep. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:22, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• No consensus to delete = keep. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:55, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

  Well it says above "If there is no consensus after 14 days, allow a further 7 days for discussion." SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:58, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• So to me that's not an outcome yet. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:26, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

• @SHB2000: to respond to your earlier question, we could make an I-90 itinerary, but I’m note sure I-90 is seen as a route in the way I-5 is seen. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:13, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

  Could, although I-5 is much a different case where it's much longer. I-90 could also work too, and might seem like the best solution to this article. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:17, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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• Kept SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:24, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

rename to Interstate 90?

Per SelfieCity's suggestion, I'd support their proposal in moving this to I-90 SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Or even I-90 in Washington state? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 10:31, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

That's a much better title since I-90 goes up to Boston. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:34, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

So I-90 in Washington state can mean spanning from Seattle to just past the state line in Coeur d'Alene (east of Spokane/Spokane Valley) which would change the meaning of this entire article. If agreed should such article be about travel along I-90 (formatted like the existing I-5 article) or what? Under the current "Mountains to Sound Greenway" theme the description of I-90 would be most relevant from Seattle to Ellensburg or would it include across northern Idaho to the other side of the Rockies in Montana (if the "Mountains" mean "Rocky Mountains")? What is the purpose of the article? What areas is this article intended to represent? There are others ways to go across from the "(Cascade) Mountains to Sound Greenway" besides I-90 such as WA-20, WA-410, US-2, US-12 as well as some of the major Forest Service Roads in there. What's there along those other highways? To Get Around there's US-97 (north south) between Yakima and Oroville/Osoyoos at the Canada border just east of the Cascades mountains. So it needs to be decided, clarified and agreed upon before any changes can be made. Anyone150 (talk) 02:57, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

If it's going to be about I-90, that is going to change this article drastically as I-90 spans across the entire nation from Seattle to Boston as the longest interstate. If it's decided that's going to be about I-90, it can be about traveling along old highways (something like the US Hwy 66 article) as the interstate highways were built to replace or supersede existing state and US Highways while bypassing small towns and some cities. I am making changes to the Interstate 5 article to include information about the old US Highway 99 as Interstate 5 replaced the old US Highway 99 from Blaine to Los Angeles and the old Highway 101 from Los Angeles to the Mexican border south of San Diego. That is just an example. I-90 was built to replace US Highway 10 between Washington and Montana. What else is there about I-90 that would it make interesting to read besides a list of cities/towns along the way? Anyone150 (talk) 03:18, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

No. I've no idea if I-90 needs an article, but since this was "designated as a National Scenic Byway" it should keep the current title. Pashley (talk) 19:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

I started building a real itinerary out of this the other day, along the official National Scenic Byway designation of Seattle-Ellensburg. I'll fill in the remaining stubs over the next week or two. IMO the rest of I-90 through WA isn't more notable than other stretches of rural west interstate. Gerode (talk) 17:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Similar route?

Across the border in BC there's the Sea-to-Sky Highway. Should the two articles link to each other? Pashley (talk) 19:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

I think that makes sense for the Go Next sections, as a traveler that enjoys one of these scenic roadtrips would certainly enjoy the other! They're about 4 hours apart. North Cascade Loop is another candidate, as it passes within 90 minutes.

I can churn out a quick Go Next rewrite this morning, I'll give Sea-to-Sky a link. Gerode (talk) 14:46, 24 October 2024 (UTC)