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Welcome to my talk page! If you want to see older talk page discussions, go to my archive, which includes discussions from December 2017 through December 2018. Discussions from the beginning of November 2018 to the present are shown below. If you're unsure about something I did or you have some other question related to something I've done, etc., feel free to click the "Add topic" button at the top of this page and add what you want to say. Thanks!



Regarding this edit - WikiVisually is a site that reuses our content (AFAIK with proper attribution per the copyleft license). If you saw something on Wikivoyage that "looked similar to a phrase on WikiVisually", it's almost certain that the text originated here, not there. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 05:38, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:11, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Flash floods

Thanks for the lede...

The rewordings attempted elsewhere in the article were so that 'flooding' in general could be covered. Not all flooding is 'flash' in the technical sense, but to a traveller, all floods are a potential issue, and trying to travel through flooded areas has related issues regardless of the type of flood. The rename suggestion was prompted by the comments in the pub, and on the section someone added to York. Floods in York aren't 'flash floods' as such.

Per the comments in the pub there are three types of 'flooding' mentioned :

  • Rapid flash floods - which we have an article on.
  • Storm surges, which typically affect coastal, tidal areas, as a consequence of a "sea swell" during a heavey storm..
  • The 'winter' inland flood caused by prolonged rainfall, in an upland region which then travels downstream above the nominal cpacity of a river to cope with it.

To a traveller there are related risks associated with each, and I'm not sure they are that different, hence a query about widening the scope of the guide. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:47, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation! I explained some of my views at Talk:Flash floods a day ago (I believe it was a day ago), and I am not sure if you have seen that yet. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:37, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


I am starting to find the olive-colored signature overwhelming, so I have changed it back to blue. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 02:32, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


I will take another Wikibreak of perhaps a week or two, starting today. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm back again; actually, I'm a little early (only 5 1/2 days instead of a week). I might not edit quite so much in the near future, though. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:59, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


I'm not seeing that filter comment you referenced at Kosovo. Can you give me a pointer, please? Best, --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:39, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@ThunderingTyphoons!: I haven't written it yet. I was asking for permission, because it wasn't vandal-related. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:17, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Please don't feel you have to ask permission in future :-) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:40, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes, it's just that it's the kind of thing I prefer to be careful about saying behind closed doors because I don't want to offend or harm any new users with good intentions — for example, if a user found out about text in an abuse filter that seemed mean or whatever. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:42, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
I still oppose any use of the abuse filter notes to discuss anything but activities of long-term vandals, as I have said in the pub. If the scope of discussion expands beyond that, I will oppose the new anti-vandal measures when the "trial period" ends and discussion is renewed. ARR8 (talk | contribs) 16:55, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
That's why I asked for permission. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:10, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for cleaning up vandalism. I would say that the last vandalism on Talk:East Asia is so blatantly offensive that it should be removed from page history. /Yvwv (talk) 01:22, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

  Done. Just that, when there is that much vandalism, you don't feel like removing it all from page history. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:27, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Bad faith beta

About my actions on the filter, I got blocked to make any edit to any page (including my own talk page), and my adjustment got me unblocked. Now I can think it's funny but half an hour ago it was extreme anger. What a relief to be able to write again. Ibaman (talk) 20:57, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

My sincere apologies. I was so caught up in writing a filter to block vandals that I inserted code that blocked you as well! So sorry --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:25, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • No problem, dude. Let's keep on improving our awesome travel guide. Ibaman (talk) 01:30, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Yep. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:56, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Admin nomination

I appreciate your nominating me, but looking at where we're at, I think I'm going to remove myself from consideration. Honestly, I can understand that people would want to see more involvement in policy discussions and so forth to demonstrate broader knowledge before making an admin. While I would have sought to very cautious at first and rely on advice on other editors ( and I'e tried to read a good bit of policy and discussion)... it's clear more is needed. Based on the thoughtful feedback from a couple longtime contributors, I think it's clear where this is going. Please feel free to tell me if you think I'm quitting too soon, but otherwise, I'll make it official on the nominations page shortly. JakeOregon (talk) 01:41, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

I understand your concerns, and I think if you feel this way about the nomination, it's best not to go ahead with it. I'd say, in that case, you should wait a few months and participate in the pub, dotm, dotm banners, and vfd pages. If you do that and revert vandalism (use recent changes) and I think you'll make fast progress toward a second nomination.
Thanks for your contributions! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:45, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
@JakeOregon: I've now archived the nomination per user decision. But I hope you stay with us; as long as we know you are actively participating with other users, it will be clear that you are a future administrator. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:51, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Seems like a reasonable decision. Just keep on working, and maybe take some of the objections into account, and we can revisit this toward the end of the year or next year. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


Hey SC, great job on the banners you've uploaded so far! If you have any basic GIMP or ImageMagick questions, you can ask me in addition to the usual contributors. I wanted to remind you of our Wikivoyage:Non-free content#Exemption Doctrine Policy, in case you forgot, which says that freely licensed works and their derivatives aren't allowed here, but should instead go on Commons. Some banners do get copied here, but only, I believe, if they are selected to go on the main page, as an anti-vandalism measure. There's a FileExporter under Beta tools to easily copy local images over to Commons, if you don't want to go through the hassle of reuploading. Thanks, ARR8 (talk | contribs) 03:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

P.S.: Should this message bring you over here, mind taking care of the vandal? ARR8 (talk | contribs) 03:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
I've fixed the vandal problem. On your original point, we upload Destination of the Month banners directly to Wikivoyage, as far as I understand. I am not uploading any other pictures directly to WV. I believe AndreCarrotflower uploads them here as well. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 04:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Ah, you're right. Seems the policy should be amended. ARR8 (talk | contribs) 04:24, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
And thanks. ARR8 (talk | contribs) 04:24, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, probably it should. It's fine though — we're always learning! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:02, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
You're right. The philosophy is that such highly visible images should be under local control, rather than subject to deletion by the whims of Commons admins, which happens with depressing frequency. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

We go with {{eat}}

Per your comment on my talk page here.

You brought up a good point here. You wrote, we use {{eat}} rather than {{listing|type=eat}}. Not sure if you've seen the discussion, but I'm trying to change that. As you use the visual editor, I believe, the change wouldn't affect you, but, since you would see the markup produced on every page, care to weigh in? As far as I can see, there are some technical reasons to prefer the |type= forms over the alias forms, and I can't think of any downsides to the change, but I'd like to hear them if there are any. Thanks, ARR8 (talk | contribs) 15:47, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Oh, that's what that is about. Changing almost every listing on Wikivoyage would take a lot of work, though, right? I think I'm missing something. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:30, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
This is only for the default for new listings; the alias format will still be supported. Though, if we were to ever phase it out, the change should be relatively simple with a bot. ARR8 (talk | contribs) 17:46, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Thanks for explaining. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:17, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Water in Italy

Your edits on Water totally changed the description. Was it wrong before? I also do not understand the "universally" in the sentence, at least not after the change. --LPfi (talk) 17:17, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

What do you mean? I only changed one word. "But except" doesn't make sense grammatically. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:18, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
If you ignore the "but" and consider the rest, you must admit that removing "except" changes the meaning. (I don't know about English, but in Swedish "men utom", i.e. the literal translation of the two words, is often used, so I suppose I understand what was meant.) --LPfi (talk) 17:55, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Then, it needs to be clarified. Otherwise, the meaning is unclear, at least to me. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:28, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Plus, I don't even see any difference in meaning when you compare my edit to the original. What is it intended to mean? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:33, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

To my understanding

Tap water is drinkable throughout the country, but except in certain towns that use mountain water for their municipal supplies, such as Spoleto, mineral water (acqua minerale) is universally preferred,

means that in most of the country mineral water is preferred, but that this is not the case in some mountainous areas, while

Tap water is drinkable throughout the country; but in certain towns that use mountain water for their municipal supplies, such as Spoleto, mineral water (acqua minerale) is universally preferred

means that mineral water is "universally" preferred in some mountainous areas. --LPfi (talk) 19:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that's what those passages mean. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:22, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
I see. I thought it was double, as in the passage accidentally included two words that mean the same thing. Has this been corrected yet? If not, I can do it. Sorry for any inconvenience. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 22:11, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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