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Welcome to my talk page! If you want to see older talk page discussions, go to my archive, which includes discussions from December 2017 through October 2018. Discussions from the beginning of November 2018 to the present are shown below. If you're unsure about something I did or you have some other question related to something I've done, etc., feel free to click the "Add topic" button at the top of this page and add what you want to say. Thanks!



Sorry for using WV on mobile today. I forgot that I said I wouldn't do it anymore. Fortunately, I didn't accidentally press a "rollback" button.

Just wanted to let you know. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:56, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

A bighorn sheep for you!

  Welcome to the big league!
Not technically a goat, but what is a goat if not an impressive sheep? Congratulations on your success at the admin nomination. ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:58, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

I have a question. So I've deleted the Khoisan Culture article per VFD discussion, but what should I do about the talk page of that article? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:00, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Congrats from me too.
Probably best to ask the most active admins Andre or Ikan what's the appropriate thing to do with the talk page; I guess it should be kept. ϒψιλον (talk) 18:03, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Keep it. :-) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:06, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
That makes sense, but I shouldn't copy it anywhere or anything like that? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:07, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
No, just leave it there. Anywhere else and it's of no use (though the only possible use I can foresee is as justification for not recreating the article in the future). --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:12, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
I am taking bets on how long it will be before the power and prestige of this appointment goes to his head and he runs amuck through the project smiting anyone who has slighted him in the past. 24 hours? 48 hours? Congratulations nonetheless. Ground Zero (talk) 18:09, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
I place a bet for 10 minutes --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:11, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
That's why I'm getting in my goat sheep early. Not taking any chances.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:12, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome, though. It's like I'm now part of some secret organization. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:14, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

RE: Pagebanner issues

Hey there! Firstly, let me start by congratulating on the recent upgrade. I understand that goats are now a common means of celebrating achievements, so have some travelling goats from me!

I'm moving this here because also discussing this in the pub will interfere with the ongoing discussion. Would you mind running me step by step through what you're doing to get {{Pagebanner}} to redlink? I may not have an answer or explanation, but I can always give it a shot.

Thirdly, I promised a while back to make some video tutorials on making static maps. I am just letting you know that due to some technical difficulties I didn't manage to record audio the first time around, and gave it a few more shots after, but I haven't got a satisfying result yet. I'll have to record audio in post production, but I hope to still get a video tutorial up someday. Just keeping you posted, since this is a promise after all :)
-- Wauteurz (talk) 20:46, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes, now by the way, you were the person who did the North Dakota static map for me, right? And this is how long you said it took:
15:51; Looking for source material (3 minutes)
15:54; Designing layers in Inkscape, general preparation work (1 minute)
15:55; Improving and stitching source material (14 minutes)
16:09; Mapping highways and Interstate routes (35 minutes)
16:44; Mapping waterways and lakes (33 minutes)
17:21; Labelling cities and highways (14 minutes)
17:35; Saving, interrupting for a break (4 hours, 25 minutes)
22:00; Continuing, mapping tertiary roads (34 minutes)
22:34; Drawing frame (1 minute)
22:35; Drawing regions (45 minutes)
23:20; Labelling unlabelled infrastructure (31 minutes)
23:51; First export and evaluation (2 minutes)
23:53; Annotating regions and frame elements (13 minutes)
00:06; First final export (3 minutes)
00:09; Files uploaded to Commons
Thanks for what you've done so far to help out with the static maps. I intend to upload my own static map in the near future; it's not very good but it is a start. I don't know how long it took though; maybe a couple hours or so, maybe an hour and a half, I can't say for sure.
So about {{pagebanner}}: Basically, what I do sometimes when I create an article is that I create the article as usual but at the top instead of using {{pagebanner}} or whatever, I use just {{pagebanner}} with nothing added to the end. It works, but in the code it implies that it doesn't work. It's hard to explain because the source mode editor I use is, for some weird reason, the 2003 version or whatever, so things show up in source mode a little differently than they do for most people. It works fine but makes it hard to explain some things.
Thanks, though, for taking the time to bring all this up! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:42, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Yes, the North Dakota map was made by me. There are quite a few maps that I made over time that never made it out onto Commons just because I wasn't satisfied with the result, which means that I have a load of unfinished SVGs across what now would be three different PCs, but so long as I enjoy drawing those maps, I don't intent to stop drawing them.
I've never encountered the 2003 source editor, so I haven't a clue how you turn that on and off, but I know as much as that you can enable the editing toolbar, better known as the 2010 wikitext editor under Special:Preferences > Editing. As for the template itself, its switch functions are designed a bit weird and have one too many pipes consistently. This might be what is causing it to mess up in your case, but I can't be sure. Essentially what it logically would do, is accept a blank parameter as a pre-set, as for Pagebanner default.jpg to appear, the presets "none", "Europe", "North America", "Pagebanner default.jpg", "Pagebanner_default.jpg" and " " are accepted. Half of those presets (the ones listing the filename) are useless too, I'm pretty sure. I would only expect it to fail as soon as you enter {{Pagebanner|}} instead of the fully blank template (without the pipe). It's mostly speculation from my end here. What I can do is edit {{Pagebanner/sandbox}} as soon as I have the time to not have some of these parameters, at which point you could see if it gives you the same results. Wikitext templates are often written without directly addressing the issues, but turning around them a bit. Pagebanner is no exception, even though it is a well-written template. I'll let you know as soon as the sandbox version is changed, which will most likely be later today :)
-- Wauteurz (talk) 07:37, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
@SelfieCity: Quick heads-up: I've made the edit described above to {{Pagebanner/sandbox}}. Feel free to see if this is less prone to failing. :)
-- Wauteurz (talk) 18:24, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Nothing was ever failing; it was just that it seemed to imply that it was failing. When I was in code, it came up as {{pagebanner}}, which I assumed meant it was signalling an error message. But it always worked. Yes, sorry for the confusion. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:32, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
I must have misinterpreted what you meant. The actual issue sounds very much like a fault in whatever add-ons you're using in your editor. There's not really anything I can do with that aside from suggest that you turn whatever is causing the issue off, but that's up to you to decide. In any case, as for the maps: I've just updated Requests for maps, so if you need a map to create, there are a few there that have been ignored for 12 years in some cases, and I might on short term add a load more to the list. If you ever run into any issues when drawing static maps, you're free to reach out to me or send me an email. I could also give some pointers if you give me a heads-up when you do post that static map, should that be something you'd like. I'd be happy to help regardless! :)
-- Wauteurz (talk) 20:27, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
About the static maps: in the near future I'm going to upload a static map of mine. (It's not as good as yours by any means, but it's something.) How do you do it with the credits, you know, the copyleft. For example, I traced my map from a screenshot I took of an OpenStreetMap. How would I give credit when uploading to Commons? I assume you just say so in the description, but if that's not the case, is there some other way to do it? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:22, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Please refer to my latest map. I have been pretty hands-off when it comes to rights, but it is only fair to reference OSM if that's what was used as a base. I'm now updating the few maps I based off of OSM data to fit this template:
|description={{en|1=Static SVG map of the Sydfynske Øhav (South Funen Archipelago), intended for usage on Wikivoyage.}}
|source={{own}}, based on OpenStreetMap data.
|author=[[User:Wauteurz|Wauteurz]], OpenSteetMap contributors
|permission={{ODbL OpenStreetMap}}
|other versions=[[:File:Sydfynske Øhav Wikivoyage Map.png|Sydfynske Øhav Wikivoyage Map.png]]
I have only used OSM base sets for a few maps, so I can't say that I have a lot of experience with this template, but if it ends up failing, I'll have you know. According to the used templates, it is at least correct when it comes to placement and usage. Work does not have to be published under the same license as the OSM data is according to the content of the template. Licensing it under CC-BY-SA 4.0, as I do, should therefore be a-okay.
-- Wauteurz (talk) 16:13, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

I deleted pages?

Swept in from the pub

If you take a look at the deletion log, you will see that I "deleted" some pages to make way for a redirect. (e.g. it says on "00:07, September 2, 2018 SelfieCity (talk | contribs) deleted redirect Western Valley by overwriting".

That's fine except for one thing: I'm not an admin. And only admins can delete pages. Is this some kind of malfunction, or an error message not working or something? Or can anyone delete redirects in the process of making way for another one? --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 03:04, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Is it maybe that I technically deleted the redirect and not the page, but it still shows in the Deletion Log? If so, this is not an issue. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 03:05, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
There is one very small loophole... it's possible for a non-admin to move an article over top of an existing redirect if that redirect has no history and points to the article being moved. This exists so that non-admins can revert page-move vandalism, effectively reversing a move so that the redirection points in the opposite direction. It's rare, I don't think I've ever done it, but the one narrow exception technically does exist. K7L (talk) 04:53, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

10,000 contributions!

By adding this post to my talk page, I will reach 5 digits of contributions, less than a week after becoming an administrator. Thanks to everyone on Wikivoyage for what you've all done in making this a great travel guide for us. It's an uphill battle against the vandals, etc., but we're doing it.

Thank you all once again. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:34, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Wow, your commitment is impressive :-) I've been here since 2013 and only reached 10,000 a few months ago. As stated in your admin nom, we're lucky to have you. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 00:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, although there are some bureaucrats and admins around here who have several times as many contributions as I have. I haven't thought of my number of contributions as particularly many, really, at least not as much as 10,000 seems. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Congratulations, also, on exactly 5500 mainspace edits! ARR8 (talk) 05:02, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
That's excluding talk pages, even talk pages for mainspace articles, right? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:55, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Yes. ARR8 (talk) 19:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)


I'm currently a user, autoconfirmed user, autopatroller, patroller, and administrator. Can't one of these be removed now? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 04:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Everything but admin. Go ahead and remove it - you've got the power! Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:01, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
But not patroller. I've removed my autopatroller status, though. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 16:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

A heart to heart about something important.

As of today, I've been locked out of Wikivoyage for 81 days. But that hasn't been even close to the biggest wake up call for me recently. I recently cussed someone out in an email, leading to me being suspended from school for three days. This recent incident has finally taught me a lesson about my big mouth (or keyboard, in this case). I now realize the impact words have on other people, as I can no longer even see my former social worker because of how I mistreated her. I know ThunderingTyphoons said to come back in 6 months and they'd consider believing what I say, but this has taught me 6 decades worth of lessons. I was just wondering if it was possible you could shorten my ban to February 28 (about seven months from the day I was banned). I miss Wikivoyage, and I'll never stop kicking myself for the way I mistreated everyone from Wikitravel to SelfieCity to Holocaust victims. Even myself when I vandalized my own page under the name Wikiwrecker231 for sympathy points. Libertarianmoderate2 (talk) 00:19, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


I'm going to take a Wikibreak for about 1 week, maybe a little more. It is due to a few things, but mainly problem users and edits recently. I think everyone will understand. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:56, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm back. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:36, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
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