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Merge attribution

An edit comment of "Merge in", as in Special:Diff/4526795/4594515 isn't really helpful as attribution or for checking the origin of the content: one has to guess at the article name (and redirects are confusing for less seasoned users). I added a permanent link to the last non-redirected version instead, in the following edit. A permanent link is immune to later history of the page and thus preferable, but just a link works adequately in most cases. –LPfi (talk) 09:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Fair point. I will be sure to add a link. Ground Zero (talk) 12:21, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Jaigaon

The Jaigaon article was totally removed by a contributor who linked it to the Indian page. Not sure why he or she did that, but the page had useful information on the town. I have tried to undo his redirect edit, but the system is not allowing me to do so. Could you help. Thanks. unsigned comment by user:SingyeDzong, 12 Jan 2023

I've started a discussion at talk:Jaigaon to ask SBB1314 why this redirect was made. Let's find out beside changing it back. Ground Zero (talk) 17:33, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. User:SingyeDzong

I think you have left the message on the wrong user page. The person who reverted the page is User:Sbb1413 not SBB1314 unsigned comment by user:SingyeDzong, 12 Jan 2023

I've corrected it on the article talk page. Please don't forget to sign each of your comments on a talk page. It is easy to do by typing this at the end of your comment: ~~~~. Ground Zero (talk) 17:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Hasimara

The same contributor has also merged Hasimara with the India page. Please see Talk:Hasimara. Thank you. user:SingyeDzong

Tyrol, etc.

What should we do about the contributions of IP sockpuppets of ArticCynda in articles like that? Those would be at least User:178.255.152.117, User:87.74.196.200, User:46.233.112.44 and User:178.255.156.181. It might be very hard to unravel all of their edits without also deleting the work of others. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:03, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Ischgl is another tricky one. A lot of content was added by that guy, but not the entire article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

LPfi already cleaned up that article, though. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 06:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

You're right; I see that now. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:34, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm 4 days late, but...

...congratulations on passing 75,000 edits :-). That's a significant achievement that only one Wikivoyager has passed before you (Ikan Kekek). Wikivoyage would be starkly different, especially when it comes to enforcing the manual of style, without you; please keep the updates coming! Cheers, --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:33, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks gor letting me know! I wasn't aware this had happened. Ground Zero (talk) 12:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, TBF, unless you use the NavigationPopups tool, it's not something you'd frequently check. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 13:07, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Revdel

Hello, I don't believe it was really necessary to hide my username at Special:Diff/4656681. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:40, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

I was deleting a bunch of vandal edits per Wikivoyage:Deny recognition, which was time-cosuming. I did not take more time to go through individual edits. Ground Zero (talk) 20:51, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: To be clear: my target was the vandal, not you. Ground Zero (talk) 21:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Akshually...

..."BH" is an initialism.

But to A your Q, it makes sense in context, but is not widely used. Definitely better to spell it out.

Nerdy greetings, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 09:00, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Static maps

Hi, Ground Zero. I have a bit of spare time on my hands until Monday, enough to draw a few static maps. Are there any regions that you want me to create a map for? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 00:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. KwaZulu-Natal is the only one I can think of at the moment. Ground Zero (talk) 12:38, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Voila! It only took about 4.5 hours (not a lot for a non-cheap map), but I've made sure to include all major settlements, freeways and highways (including the highway to eSwatini). Unfortunately, I have not visited ZA nor eSwatini so I've based the MR8 on what's seen on this sign. I also had to use the default font similar to many East Coast Australian maps since downloading the ZA/eSwatini font would take too long. Is there anything else on the map that I should add? Otherwise, passe un excellent 14 juillet, Ground Zero ! --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 05:23, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

That looks great! I don't know much about the region either. I didn't make it that far east. Thanks for spending so much time on it. Bonne fête à toi aussi. Ground Zero (talk) 13:13, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Not a problem – it was also a good learning opportunity for me, too! Let me know if you want me to draw maps for any other region. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 13:30, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Love the creativity

Special:Diff/4731318 is definitely the first time I've seen anyone try to grab an anon's attention using 10 H2 headers – gave me relief while waiting for a train out in the 36°C heat. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 06:42, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't know what else to do with this editor. Their contributions are good, and are expanding our coverage of the Philippines, so I don't want to discourage them, but they have ignored every other request. If you have any ideas, I'd be happy to hear them. Ground Zero (talk) 11:03, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

This seems very extreme, but I'm thinking of some sort of temporary edit filter that explicitly prevents them from writing the strings "12AM" and "12PM" in mainspace – it would only work for that IP, and it should be public so that they're aware of the issue. Unfortunately, I don't know how to write filters (any help, LPfi?) and it can come as draconian, especially given that it's not being used for anti-spam or anti-vandalism purposes.

The other option I had in mind was using a partial block on mainspace edits until they respond to your talk page messages, but I had an inner feeling that this may completely deter the user from editing. Otherwise, I'm not sure what to do. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:16, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Their last edits, logged in as Rogeliomnl24, used "noon", but still use ₱₱₱ to indicate price. Small victories. Ground Zero (talk) 14:40, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Noice. Progress, at last! --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 21:38, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

I think the filter would be easy to write. It would be something like (in pseudosyntax) "ip=IP and added_lines includes 12AM and removed_lines not includes 12 AM"; for those who try to avoid filters you need to be more clever. However, I am not in the mood of writing it now (soon rushing away), so we might want to wait to see whether they got it already. –LPfi (talk) 15:29, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Adding some stuff to Michigan

Hello I'm new here and I noticed that there was a lot of stuff missing in Michigan and I was curious if I could edit it Ryanmccreedy (talk) 16:17, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

All users can edit articles here, so of course you can edit it, but what is it that you wanted to add? I ask because there are many things that should be covered in local or region articles, rather than the article for the state. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:30, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Dublin - Ferryman

Hey -

The discussion was actually over in my usertalk page.

The suggestion was instead of having the image of the pub in the first portion of the page - we stick it in the Drinks section.

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In general I'm finding the quality of images in Dublin's page really quite poor, so I'm look at ways to help improve that aspect. Davekern (talk) 19:03, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Random q.

If you don't mind me asking: as I'm in the midst of writing Australia without a car, how knowledgeable are you on being able to create/add content to Canada without a car (a redlink as of writing this)? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:14, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm not really one to ask as I have driven from coast to coast, and as far north as I could get on paved roads. I'll take a look at your Aus article, but for the moment a Canadian version would just restate what's in Canada#Get around. I don't have much to add beyond that. Ground Zero (talk) 07:22, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Same here since I'm mostly a road tripper and only use public transit within cities when it's more convenient – having road tripped from Southwest National Park to Far North Queensland to the Yorke Peninsula. I just figured that I had to write it about my rather limited knowledge for the many travellers who don't drive or aren't willing to drive (inspired from United States without a car). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:34, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Any idea?

How to get of this weird red error (Page Template:Pagebanner/sandbox/styles.css has no content.) at Goseong_(South_Gyeongsang)? And thanks for c/e-ing my students' article. Feel free to offer them feedback on the talk (if you do so, please ping them and me). Cheers, (oh, and I'll also ping @Gregsmi11 who also did some c/e of this - thank you as well). Piotrus (talk) 04:09, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

@Piotrus: the Pagebanner template had "/sandbox" in it. I've removed it, and it works now. The biggest issue we're facing with editors who I think are your students is that some of them are adding a lot of text that is too detailed for a travel guide -- information on hydrography, details on administrative structure of municipalities, lists of neighbouring municipalities, and so on. What a travel guide really needs is information on how to get to a place, and what to see and do. I suspect that some student are just copying from Wikipedia or other sources. However, It is good to see our coverage of Korean and Chinese destinations being expanded. I hope that your students are finding this to be a useful exercise. Ground Zero (talk) 04:43, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Here are two examples: [1], [2]. Ground Zero (talk) 04:49, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I am aware of this problem. I'll try to come up with some activity that addresses this next year. If you have any ideas (maybe there's a Wikivoyage page that describes this problem?) I'll add something to User:Hanyangprofessor2 (see the last section where I ask them to read artcles about what I think are relatively common errors, I can add more reading there and make it required earlier on - something I am thinking about for next year). Piotrus (talk) 05:14, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

@piotrus: I've looked around at our style guides, and I think that Wikivoyage:Goals and non-goals would he useful for your students. It addresses the "encyclopedia" issue, but provides a bigger picture of what we are trying to do here. I hope it helps. Ground Zero (talk) 07:44, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Great, I'll add it there. Piotrus (talk) 10:21, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry

Hey, just wanted to apologise more formally about my coarse words the other day. Just read through them again and I was out of line. I sometimes act like I'm on a private, raucous chatroom rather than on a public wiki. This isn't anything sycophantic; I have zero ambitions here. But I did step out of bounds with my language and I want to affirm my original apology. I came across as way too aggressive. That was not my intention. Sorry. Brycehughes (talk) 17:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for this. I appreciate your sincerity. It wasn't necessary, though. I don't believe you bear me any ill-will. We're cool. Regards, Ground Zero (talk) 02:40, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Ok cool! Brycehughes (talk) 04:03, 22 November 2023 (UTC)