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UserMergeEdit

Hi, let me know if you would like your old account contributions merged into your new one. I'd just need confirmation that you are the same person by stating so on your WT user page. --Peter Talk 23:43, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

BannersEdit

Hi AlasdairW, I have just noticed you were the one who added the banner to the Lochranza article. This banner was subsequently tagged with the {{crop}} template, because its proportions majorly deviated from the 7:1 standard we agreed to use. I have cropped and resized the banner since, you can see the effects going to said article. Feel free to make another, more suitable banner should you be less than impressed with my quick creation, just keep it 7:1 (which is 2100x300, for reference sake).

I see that you are an experience Wikivoyage contributor, but I guess you may want to visit the Wikivoyage:Banner Expedition for more tips and guidelines on adding banners, to make sure your banners are state-of-the-art. I am looking forward to your upcoming contributions (and banners!) and will be happy to help if needed. Kind regards, PrinceGloria (talk) 13:51, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Your Lochranza banner looks great. Thanks also to Peter (Southwood) for editing West Highland Way. I had been meaning to edit these but never got round to it. As I am not used to editing images and uploading to Commons, I figured that this would take a couple of hours and was something for a wet weekend. AlasdairW (talk) 20:33, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions to our Nelson (England) article. As I write this, adding a banner removes our standard table of contents (ToC) and instead displays a limited function ToC that offers no ability for readers to access tertiary and quaternary headings directly.
 
As at 3 Aug 2013, the English Wikivoyage default banners display sub-optimally on common netbook screens and the integral table of contents does not display tertiary or quaternary section headings at all.
Since I am planning to expand this article greatly in the coming weeks (you will see that I have already expanded it greatly from the original skeleton), I'm wondering if you can self-revert your edit today until such time (hopefully less than a month now) as our banners have fixed this castrated ToC? Thank you in advance for your anticipated co-operation, Alasdair.
PS: You're very welcome to drop by for a wee dram. -W. Franke-mailtalk 19:13, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Frank I have undone my edit and a later one by Nicholasjf21 to remove the (England). I added the banner in part because the TOC was causing a large blank space in the climate section. This may be a feature of the browser - it looks better in Chrome than Firefox. I am surprised that you are going to spend more time on this article! AlasdairW (talk) 23:05, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Alasdair! One of the excellent reasons to introduce the horizontal banner and ToC was to fix these sort of display anomalies with different browsers and screen sizes. I hope that in a few weeks, the banner display will be much improved and it can then be re-instated.
There's actually a hell of a lot of listings still to do -particularly in the transport and eat sections.
Thanks again for your collegiate spirit and please don't hesitate to pop the banner back in when the technical guys have put the drop down ToC expansion into operation. Do you think that the automatically generated numbered icons are a bit too large in the numbered map display? --W. Franke-mailtalk 23:38, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Copying text from WikipediaEdit

Hi, Alasdair. I noticed you copied extensively from w:Providenciales in the Providenciales guide. I think that's a bad idea because, even if you duly credit the Wikipedia article (which you did), the more similar Wikivoyage's articles are to articles on other sites, the lower the search results will be on Google. So for that reason, I've reverted your edits. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Just to add: It's fine to paraphrase the Wikipedia article; just please don't make it to similar in wording to the original. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:25, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
While I agree with you that copying to lead sections won't increase the search results for Wikivoyage articles but filling the other sections of the articles might increase their ranking. On the other hand, we're not copying the text not under a compatible license, so I don't think we need to paraphrase it. I should say that text should be paraphrased to make our content distinguish from others but for time being, it should allowed until someone willing to paraphrase it. Moreover, filled articles look good. --Saqib (talk) 14:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Feel free to revert my edit if you think it's better to have the content be there in the meantime, but let's not forget to edit it soon. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
I'll leave it up to Alasdair. But I would say lets take some advantage of CC licenses and not be so perk. --Saqib (talk) 14:39, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
I copied a few paras from WP, only making small changes in that process, with the idea of coming back later and doing some rewording, after doing some research elsewhere. If an edit is not a serous problem, it may be better to wait a few hours before leaping in. I will probably leave any further edits to Providenciales until tomorrow, as I have some other things to do. AlasdairW (talk) 14:50, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Alasdair, please feel free to copy content from WP. --Saqib (talk) 15:00, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
I'll give you more latitude in the future. Sorry if I was too hasty to act. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:03, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

"Rescuing" text from Vfd articlesEdit

Hi, Alasdair. I'd strongly recommend that you copy any of the threatened articles to your userspace (e.g., User:AlasdairW/Sandbox while you edit them to try to rescue them from deletion, if you don't want your work to disappear. I'm speaking, for example, of the Singles travel‎‎ and Two weeks in New Zealand's South Island topics.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I have made local pdf copies, and am not bothered in the case of these two articles, as I only spent a few minutes on the edits. Is there a copy process that retains the history? AlasdairW (talk) 22:56, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

It is certainly technically possible to undelete deleted articles, but this seldom happens, and short of that, the articles' histories are deleted along with the articles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:46, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I think I misunderstood your question. You can request to have the articles in question moved to your userspace in case of a determination to delete, instead of their being deleted. If they are moved to your userspace that way, the histories will be retained. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:48, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
But if you want to make the request in Vfd, do it as quickly as possible, because these articles, along with your work, could be deleted at any moment. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:27, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Since there was no answer, I went ahead and put the page in question at User:AlasdairW/Two weeks in New Zealand's South Island. If you don't want it, let me know, and I'll delete it. Texugo (talk) 15:46, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I didn't feel that strongly about Two weeks in New Zealand's South Island to make the request, but I am happy to look after it. It might really become a personal itinerary if I go back to the South Island. However I don't want Singles travel‎‎. AlasdairW (talk) 20:57, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic banner for my hometownEdit

Thank you AlasdairW, for doing something that I've been meaning to learn how to do for ages now. Great choice of banner for Farnborough; it's already in the top 5 attractions for the town ːD --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:21, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


mergesEdit

Hi! I've been spending time resolving articles tagged for merging lately, so could I request that you update Lundin Links to provide an explanation of why a merge should be done in the {{merge}} tag (example: {{merge|target|per [[some discussion]]}})? That way it's clear that the merge proposal is based on an existing Wikivoyage policy or discussion - many of our articles tagged for merging lacked such justification, making it difficult to determine if a merge was really the right solution. Thanks! -- Ryan • (talk) • 22:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

go nextEdit

has been a bug bear for me, in that in the indonesian articles, small essays have been made of each item which should be one liners, the problem is I have been trying to separate the one liners wherew I find them into directions

the problem for me is the category tree you have just added doesnt give the reader an option to know where the next place is in relation to the place the go next is in. I certainly wouldnt put galashiels or jedburgh in kirk yetholm, as kelso comes before... and so on - any thoughts?

it is really great to see a set of borders towns being mewntioned, that is great, it is just i would like the option to spearate into direction from each location if it was at all possible -cheers JarrahTree (talk) 22:21, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I have tried using category tree as a quick way of putting something in places with empty Go next sections. I realise that this is inferior to a properly composed list giving directions, and details of what is in a place, but I think that it is better than nothing, and is a quick one line edit. I also find that it is occasionally worth looking at categories to see if there are any "hidden cities" which are not listed on the region article.
I think that a basic list of places in the same region is useful to readers, and could have SEO benefits too. An alternative that I have seen on German WV is a link to a map with the destination layer selected - I did try this on The Lothians, but haven't used this elsewhere.
I would be interested in your thoughts on either of these, or whether it is better to just manually put in the nearest place.AlasdairW (talk) 00:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
my problem is skeleton articles in australian and indonesian contexts, i think manually is probably what is needed, for where there are better articles to link to, the lothian map is absolutely brilliant - imho - better quality articles for that sort of linking!

just my point of view though, category tree for closer places in tighter geographical scope areas, is fine. I suppose the distances between places in some australian contexts are vast compared to parts of Indonesia and Scotland, and thats where I'd prefer manually between skeleton articles. JarrahTree (talk) 09:05, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Meetup at the National Library of Scotland 05.05.2016Edit

Hello again, AlasdairW!
Thank you so much for joining us on the Wikimeet the other day. I hope that you enjoyed it and that you'll stay in touch for future meets, possible on the Doors Open day we discussed.

I've added some booklets and some links below that you may find useful if you haven't already come across them. I'm also very happy to talk about anything you may wish to discuss, via email or in person.

You might find this link below helpful as it covers the main things to remember about using Visual Editor.



The University of Edinburgh are also looking into running lots more edit-a-thons over the course of the residency – details are still to be confirmed but will be updated on my project page here: Wikipedia:University_of_Edinburgh

Want to learn more? Meet fellow Wikipedians @ our next Social MeetEdit

Just to make you aware that there will be further Wiki Social Meet with the next one possibly in July. Full details to be decided but will be posted out on the Scotwiki mailing list (details below).

See you soon! Stinglehammer (talk) 14:04, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Something I thought might interest you...

To keep up to date about Wikimedia events happening throughout Scotland, to learn more about ScotWiki projects, or to publicise your own ScotWiki event or project, join the ScotWiki Mailing List if you haven't already done so.!

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  slečna
moje vlastní Drancakova.barb1 (talk) 17:21, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Stanley (Falkland Islands)Edit

The Falkland Islands were actually my first contributions to Wikivoyage over a decade ago, so it's been nice to see those articles getting a refresh - I was particularly happy to see your edit noting that Kay McCallum's is apparently still in business. Thanks for your work on those articles, and nice work tracking down info about an area that isn't the easiest place to research online. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:37, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Strictly I was using May 2014 information from a British Army guide to update McCallum's. I agree that online info on the islands is scarce, but this may make updates here more useful. AlasdairW (talk) 22:05, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

England ExpeditionEdit

Hi, I notice you doing improvements to UK articles. Just wondering if you are aware of Wikivoyage:England Expedition. --Traveler100 (talk) 14:40, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I am aware of it and you may have noticed the odd edit to the page. I have also found some of the tools useful - even if I did sometimes change the searches to Scotland! AlasdairW (talk) 15:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

No booking agencies pleaseEdit

Hi Alasdair, I respect your oponion but I think that's a bad idea and we can include Caledonian Way in the paragraph: "Other resources". The agency is a business based in Edinburgh and a company legally constituted like Super Mums Childcare Agency (paragraph: Babysitting). kind regards (Added at 02:52, 26 December 2016‎ by Edinside).

Thank you for explaining your view. See Wikivoyage:External_links. In "What not to link to" it lists: "Hotel or travel booking services or aggregators". It appears that this is what your business is, albeit for the specialised area of language schools. I looked at a translation of your page, and it appeared to have language schools like those we already have listed. Super Mums is a different situation, as the babysitters that it provides are individuals who won't have their own booking websites. If you were offering individual tutors that will come to a hotel room, then it would be similar to Super Mums.
Secondly this is the English Wikivoyage, and the linked page is only in Spanish. Please use the English version of your page - the Spanish version possible belongs on Spanish Wikivoyage - check the policies there to see if your business is allowed. If you wish to try again, please present your case on Talk:Edinburgh first. AlasdairW (talk) 10:55, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I accept that because the webside is not in English. —The preceding comment was added by 2a02:c7d:13b:a200:9162:6587:43bc:9a0d (talkcontribs)

I hope you don't mind my interjecting. First, please sign your name on talk pages (only) by typing 4 tildes in a row at the end of each post. But second, are you suggesting that you don't accept that aggregators cannot be listed on this site per site policy? You don't have to like a policy to accept its existence. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:47, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

It's ok. I will remove the other Spanish link too. Thanks. —The preceding comment was added by Edinside (talkcontribs)

I'm not sure we're understanding each other, but once again, please sign your posts on talk pages by typing 4 tildes in a row at the end of each post. Thank you. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:17, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Deletion policyEdit

Alasdair, thank you for your contribution to finding a solution to that problem. I'm prepared to implement it now, but I think that you should, for attribution purposes, be the one to create that Airlines article that will be the target for the redirects using your draft page. I'll take care of the rest. Thanks. Ground Zero (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I have put the content on Airlines which was an existing redirect to Flying. It may need some tweaking. AlasdairW (talk) 22:16, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

SoazzaEdit

Are you really against the merger or did you just revert because "proper protocol" was not followed? In general putting the merge template on top of an article only results in the template sitting there for weeks and then being forgotten. If you think the merge was a mistake, this is of course a legitimate standpoint, but if you are just reverting this because the merge was done without the template being put up for weeks, I think you should reconsider. Nothing personal. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

I did it in part because I was irritated that somebody would do a merger only a few hours after I had done several edits to the article. I also thought that the reason given in the edit summary was wrong as I had seen that there was a hotel there when I was looking yesterday. I did not see enough about the Hotel Al Cacciatore to add a listing, and it may have closed. I am also not sure which is the "more famous" of the two villages - which should be merged into which. AlasdairW (talk) 22:17, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Okay, I can see the reasoning. I also found the hotel in my search but determined it had ceased existing and withheld listing it for that reason. At any rate, the merge template is a very insufficient way to get a discussion going in the vast majority of the cases, as few people ever participate in those debates. I have mulled over this problem in my head several times but have not yet reached a satisfactory conclusion. What do you think would be the best way to have merge discussions other than the unsatisfactory way it currently goes? Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:41, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I am the person who did the merge. I'm sorry I irritated you with this, that was not my intention.
I have been going through a lot of the Switzerland articles and there are a lot of article of very small hamlets without any accommodation. In the past I've started discussions on merging those (see for instance Talk:Finhaut) and found that I rarely ever get answers at all, even after a couple weeks, which is frustrating and slows any progress. Of course I should have started a discussion nevertheless, as you just edited the article. I missed that and I apologise for that.
Going forward, I started a discussion at Talk:Lostallo on this. I still think merging Lostallo into Soazza might not be the right option, as after searching I couldn't find any accommodation with confirmed information, but of course I would appreciate your input on this subject. Drat70 (talk) 03:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Scotland ExpeditionEdit

Getting there. Good bit of teamwork. --Traveler100 (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

ThanksEdit

Hi AlasdairW, Just wanted to say thanks for your help with the article - It's much appreciated :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:45, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Beccles vs Bungay Wikipedia & Commons linksEdit

Thanks for that. From a Wikipedia & Commons perspective they are different enough to be considered separately. But from a travel perspective neither is big enough on their own and they are generally considered together so with only one link available I agree Beccles is the larger of the two. I set the geo to be mid way between the two (no idea if this is the correct thing to do). I've no idea if combining both to a single destination page (on WV) was the right thing to do but seemed a bit OTT to have go for lots of rather feeble/empty pages for every little place around PsamatheM (talk) 19:19, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Your welcome PsamatheM. We did have some discussions a while back about having multiple Wikipedia links in cases like Beccles and Bungay, but I think these stalled, as the main change at the time was adding Wikipedia and Commons fields to listings. It is good to see a new article for these towns. AlasdairW (talk) 22:25, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

100 o'clockEdit

That's next Wednesday. I thought everyone knew that, but I guess it is a good idea to follow standard time formatting per WV:TDF, instead of using our own formats. ;-) Ground Zero (talk) 22:40, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I should really have thanked you for taking the time to make Christchurch, a future main page article more consistent. You have a lot more perseverance than I have on such important details. AlasdairW (talk) 22:50, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

User:ShakespeareFan00/Government, politics and oppositionEdit

Following up on a suggestion made on Talk:History of justice, this was started in User Space, because my knowledge of political history outside the UK is somewhat limited.

As you commented in the talk page mentioned, your contribution much appreciated. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:21, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

CarlisleEdit

Hi Alasdair, you reverted me on Carlisle airport. The Telegraph article mentioned Loganair, but that airline's own web page doesn't acknowledge it, and I think it's wishful thinking / corporate bull. Not much population base to serve there and Flybe and Ryanair the two obvious alternative operators are retrenching. Great to list it if there's something more solid (ie tickets open for booking) but even if so, MAN should remain listed for its excellent selection of flights and good direct transport to Carlisle. Grahamsands (talk) 22:08, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Graham. I saw your edit earlier this evening then I read "Let's Visit Penrith" in today's Telegraph which says that flights may happen this spring. However I see that w:Carlisle Lake District Airport says June 2018. As we probably won't notice when the airlines do start selling tickets, it is worth keeping the listing, but saying "no commercial flights" until things are clearer. I have listed Manchester, Newcastle and Glasgow as alternatives. Thanks for you hard work on this any many other articles. AlasdairW (talk) 22:25, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Edit

Thanks for adding this banner! But please follow the steps explained on the Category:Banner Missing from Wikidata page so the pagebanner is included on Wikidata as well.

Don't worry, I had to learn how to do this quite recently myself. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:39, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Notice how it was done at d:Q17130379. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I think that some our other banner pages may need updating as I hadn't realised that we now had detailed instructions. In the case of the recent banners for travel topics, I would ideally have waited a week or two before adding then to Wikidata, as it is possible that those that know the topic better may decide that my banner is no good. Incidently, the Water safety banner was a "spare" that had been created for Larne, but not used - it would be great to have a way of finding these spare banners easily. AlasdairW (talk) 21:33, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
I see; but don't worry, the banner is fine. I'd say that per Plunge forward there's nothing wrong with going ahead and adding the banner to Wikidata at the first. If someone wants to change a banner, they can quite easily change the Wikidata pagebanner themselves. But thanks for the consideration! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:30, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Page Banner CompletionEdit

Hi! Thanks for creating so many page banners and helping to reduce the number of articles without custom page banners.

I am wondering though if you would follow-up by adding the banners to Wikidata? For each banner that you create, I have had to follow-up and complete this work for you. All of the articles that don't have their page banner added to Wikidata remain in the Wikivoyage maintenance category of Category:Banner missing from Wikidata. The top part of the page has the instructions on how to properly add the banner to Wikidata, and at the bottom is a list of articles that need this action. While the instructions may look lengthy, after you do this a couple of times it goes very quickly. Thanks for considering my request. It can be challenging to keep up with all of the banners that are being added each week. Zcarstvnz (talk) 10:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for being so quick in adding my banners. I have added a few banners to Wikidata, then I found that I couldn't add one because the page was semi-protected. I am planning to go back and add the recent banners to Wikidata, but I think that it would be easier to do several at once. I don't see any hurry in adding the banners to Wikidata - it doesn't matter if there is a one month delay before the banner is available for another language. AlasdairW (talk) 10:48, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Personally, I think there would be less confusion if you added the banner to Wikivoyage, the category to Commons, and the page banner to Wikidata all at the same time. Then, it's clear that every banner you've uploaded to Wikivoyage is also in the Wikidata. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 13:35, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Now that I am back home, using my desktop, I have just added about 15 page banners to Wikidata. I found that it was a lot easier to do with a large screen and a mouse than it would have been in the last few days using my laptop when I way away. AlasdairW (talk) 18:38, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Good news, thanks! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 22:22, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

LlanelliEdit

Yes, I was being lazy in not checking, but I did not change the meaning of the sentence by removing "currently". It meant the same after the change as it did before. Ground Zero (talk) 22:09, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

I think that "currently" is a hint that the information is likely to change. Maybe in the case of renovations this is obvious, and it would have been better if the original edit had given an expected end date. AlasdairW (talk) 22:38, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
I would read "currently" as being emphasis that the information is current, which it wasn't. I agree with providing date information instead unclear and obsolescent terms like "currently". Ground Zero (talk) 00:39, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
From Dictionary.com:

--Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:46, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

PatrollerEdit

Would you like to be a patroller? You would then be allowed to do the procedures as described at Wikivoyage:Recent changes patrol, but not need to do all the things an administrator does. How do you feel about this? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 22:51, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I would be OK with this. However I am unlikely to spend much time looking at recent changes - the changes I do review are mainly those that appear in my watchlist. As I am travelling at the moment, it would be best to wait until next week before making any changes. AlasdairW (talk) 20:44, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Don't worry — you can patrol as you wish. Additionally, by being a patroller, you can rollback edits, which is easier than undoing them. That makes handling vandalism easier. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 20:57, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Community Insights SurveyEdit

RMaung (WMF) 14:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights SurveyEdit

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