Archived pages edit

I have archived my Wikitravel user talk page here at User talk:Pashley/Archive.

My suggested rewrite of the sex tourism policy has also been copied here, User talk:Pashley/STP.

Hi! I changed a sentence in your policy concerning child prostitution. In most European countries any thing that "support" it is a criminal offence. I would strongly auggest to stay on the legal side and make very clear that any information concerning such activities are being deleted immediately. I think prefer is way to weak and police patrols such things in Europe today very sharp. Hope you are fine with it. Jc8136 (talk) 10:51, 25 September 2012 (CEST)
Your wording is definitely an improvement thanks. Pashley (talk) 02:20, 26 September 2012 (CEST)

Thanks for your comments about E11 edit

Thanks for your kind words about the E11 article. Currently I am not aware of any good example in WikiVoyage of an itinerary, so any help to improve this one is welcome. I feel pretty much like pioneering. DrMennoWolters (talk) 16:21, 6 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

What I meant is one or two articles that can serve as example. Wikipedia:WikiProject Hiking trails - excuse me for this inline link to WP - qualifies one article in WP as "featured" and six as "good", but that is of course for the encyclopedic type of article. Which of the many itineraries in WikiVoyage, dealing with a long-distance trail, could serve as an example? Let us move this discussion to a more general platform, like the Discussion page of E11 hiking trail or the Travellers' pub or maybe a Talk page linked to the Wikivoyage:Itineraries project or one of the related articles. DrMennoWolters (talk) 20:06, 6 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sandbox edit

I copied the list of pages with empty IsPartOf tags from Wikivoyage_talk:Breadcrumb_navigation#Navigating_down_a_breadcrumb_trail and fixed most of them, ignoring any with a merge tag (already there or added by me) or which were redirects. They are all done except those below.

Ones with no obvious fix: Neusiedl Lake Curonian Spit Tamphel

Better list, bot-generated, at Category:Articles_needing_IsPartOf_parameter Pashley (talk) 01:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Accolades... edit

for the best edit ever. -- Sapphire (talk) 19:28, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Chuckle. Working fast, dropping welcome messages on dozens of pages. Oops! Pashley (talk) 19:42, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, and how do I use the Coordinates template edit

Thanks for your welcome. How can I translate the coord template (e.g. from the Wikipedia sandy hook article) to the Wikivoyage sandy hook article. The template I want to translate is:

{{Coord|40.452891|-73.995237|region:US|format=dms|display=title}} (Look at the raw text to see the code.)

Thanks! --Lbeaumont (talk) 22:35, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Retiring Abroad question edit

This is my first attempt at this, so please forgive any gaffes. I thought I might add something to the Retiring Abroad article about my experience retiring in the US and moving to Poland. I thought I'd start simple with the visa question then realized that my story doesn't seem to slot into any of the defined categories. I was told by the Polish Consulate in LA that they couldn't give me a long-term visa, and as a US citizen I had no need of a short-term visa. I had 90 days allowed in country without a visa (an extension of the Schengen Agreement) and I had to apply at the provincial government office in whatever area I decided to settle for a long-term visa of any type. My wife is a Polish native and so the process I had to go through might be different from other retirees, but I'd be willing to do some research on the matter if I could figure out where to put the results. Thanks for your time --Jimmu

Commonscat edit

Hello Pashley, thanks for your kind reception! I wish to have the Template:Commonscat possible here. Just can't find it, can you give me a helping hand? Lotje (talk) 06:11, 17 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks edit

for your support - the wife (before she was) did the bus Paris to Delhi back in the old days... without a camera - cheers sats (talk) 14:06, 20 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

External links discussion edit

My revert:

Anon comment:

OK thanks. The external links policy means you can't make use of the resource which is a shame, but no way around that. I had persuaded CMS (55 years plus experience of the islands) to release it as non-copyrighted data and was hoping to persuade him to contribute now he is retired. If you change policy please go ahead and undo. Over and out.

Thanks for dashing to my rescue! -- Alice 00:37, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Hinglaj mata edit

I speedy deleted this one despite it having been flagged as a merge since it was an unattributed copyvio from Wikipedia. Hopefully you don't mind, but I believe standard practice with copyvios is to simply delete them. -- Ryan • (talk) • 20:25, 21 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Puerto Princesa Subterranean River National Park edit

Just in case you thought I made it up: [1] -- Alice 13:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

No. I just think such detail belongs on the Puerto or maybe Philippines page, not Asia. At most, a link from Asia. Pashley (talk) 13:39, 1 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'd agree that it might be a stretch at the Asia continental level but thanks for raising it at Talk:Southeast_Asia#Water_sports.3F. As you'll see from what I wrote there, it is such an extraordinary natural wonder that I think we should still keep a place for it at this sub-continental level of Southeast_Asia. Let's hope that some more folks comment there since it is difficult to reach a consensus when only two people hold such diametrically opposed views. -- Alice 02:02, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks edit

For asking my opinion - I do agree it is do with scope - funny even in commons, obscure conversations there flag potential discussion re scope even when they dont mention it.. sats (talk) 00:04, 5 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you! edit

  The Admin's Barnstar
In appreciation of your hard work and dedication. INeverCry 22:59, 25 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Niagara Falls edit

Hi, Pashley. I left a question on Talk:Niagara Falls (New York) that you may be able to answer. Thanks! LtPowers (talk) 23:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Investor visa in Brazil edit

Hi there. Sorry it took a little longer to get around to this. I haven't found exactly what I was looking for, but Brazil does have an investor visa if the applicant invests at least US$50,000, though information on it in English is scattered. The consulate in Ireland has some information [2], and the consulate in San Francisco has a list of requirements [3]. That's all I´ve got so far... Texugo (talk) 19:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Regarding this edit edit

Regarding this edit, please be aware that wikilinks fail in the footer. That's why they're set up as html. Also, please don't change the text that was specified by the legal department. We're happy to discuss changes, but please do discuss them first, by email to or on my talk page.  :) Thanks! Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 22:49, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi edit

You guessed right. Like you, I'm a wikitravel migrant: [4]. I'm working in Fuyang and my students and I will do a little bit of editing of their hometown articles. Any help would be appreciated. Mr. Straub (talk) 06:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

retiring to peru etc edit

unfortunately my spanish is very very poor - but will try to glean from my friend some more about what he has found out... his standard line is if you marry a local it helps... I have heard of a strange variety of inverifiable stories about how much money is needed, and the range of complex visa restrictions in some countries... sats (talk) 12:53, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Shanghai map edit

Hey, I'm just letting you know that I finished the map we discussed. I figured I'd let you integrate it into the article. Let me know if there is anything else I could add or fix that would help the map. I'm a little limited by the available data, but I can still make some changes if need be. --Peter Talk 15:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Shanghai/Yangpu District edit

Thanks for welcoming me. And thanks for pointing out the inner suburbs issue. I have read the discussion and will participate in future Shanghai discussion if I have any ideas. Was an infrequent contributor to Wikitravel some years ago, mainly in Shanghai articles, I see a lot has changed/improved since then. Going to primarily work on Yangpu District and Hongkou District first as I am most familiar with those (lived in Yangpu District for many years, although I must admit its not really a hotspot for tourists). Heights (talk) 01:32, 1 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Shanghai/Jiading edit

Hope you liked the Shanghai/Jiading banner. In case you have some more "requests", let me know :-) Danapit (talk) 14:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Retiring abroad banner edit

Pashley, I made some suggestions, you can have a look at the talk page. Danapit (talk) 14:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

On the trail of Kipling's Kim and On the trail of Marco Polo are done. Hope you like it. They are really nice articles! Danapit (talk) 19:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Pashley, you are probably aware of the status of the Shanghai banners. For the remaining districts I can't finding any suitable pictures. I also searched at Flickr for most of the destinations. If you happen to see any nice picture, give me a hint and I will turn it into a banner. Danapit (talk) 11:38, 27 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

ironic edit

Hey it is interesting, i am currently travelling (sic) and won't have any access whatsoever to the Internet from tonight (8th) until after (17th) June. Cheers sats (talk) 10:52, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

On the trail of Kipling's Kim edit

Hello Pashley, no doubt, you've done a hard but nice work on the subjected article. But I didn't figure out what's the reason behind writing such type of travel literature? Are they within the scope of Wikivoyage and will really benefit our readers? --Saqib (talk) 19:50, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Email edit

Hey, I've sent you an email, and am messaging you here to make sure you receive it. --Peter Talk 20:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Received, thanks. Pashley (talk)

Thanks edit

For your re-nominating, appreciate it, hope to be up and running again v soon - appreciate your kind thoughts... sats (talk) 09:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Travemünde edit

Dear Sandy,

thank you very much for the checking and corrections of the article. I have now completed all entries/content and think about nominating it for a star article. Would you mind to do a spell/grammar all other things check? Thank you in advance! Best regards, jan (talk) 11:41, 9 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

UserMerge edit

Hey, I just noticed that your old WT account contributions were never merged into your WV account. Would you like me to do that now? --Peter Talk 07:46, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes, please. Pashley (talk) 13:07, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
You may have noticed some clumsy edits on my part there, but this is now done ;) I replaced your Archive with the same content, but all the attributions history (hope you don't mind that). Also, you can find your old user page in the history here, so you can grab whatever content you want, or move it over your new user page to keep the old attributions history, if you like. All your former subpages have been moved here too, see Special:PrefixIndex/User:Pashley and Special:PrefixIndex/User talk:Pashley. --Peter Talk 18:22, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

China high speed rail edit

The China high speed rail page is getting very out of date. Would you be interested to discuss? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)Reply


wilderness backpacking edit

it is clearly North American oriented - why has no one the courage to identify it as such? - the cultural and continental differences are so immense in the rest of the world... the generalities are totally irrelevent when considering other places other than the rockies... any thoughts? sats (talk) 14:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Re: Kashrut edit

I'm not sure I can add much to Ikan Kekek's comments; is there something else you'd like to know? -- Ypnypn (talk) 03:09, 26 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Alberta Badlands page move edit

Hi Pashley, I noticed you changed the name of the Alberta badlands page recently. I disagree, and think it should be capitalized per our naming convention. I've made my comments at Talk:Alberta badlands but would like to hear your opinion before moving it back. Cheers. -Shaundd (talk) 19:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

World Heritage Sites Tour in Sri Lanka edit

Hi Pashley, you're quite good at writing itineraries so your suggestions required regarding the subjected article. --Saqib (talk) 11:37, 9 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Site statistics edit

Hello Pashley. I have noticed you participate in Search expedition discussion, so perhaps you can give me a hint how to find a statistics for traffic at individual sites at WV. For example how many times has Prague been viewed between January and now. Thanks. Dana --Danapit (talk) 13:25, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

I have no idea. Sorry. Pashley (talk) 13:33, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks anyway. --Danapit (talk) 13:34, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
On the article history page, there's an external link for "Page view statistics". Is that what you need? LtPowers (talk) 17:49, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yep! I just checked Northern lights where a nice featured travel topic effect is visible. Thanks a lot, nice tool! --Danapit (talk) 18:47, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, Childs also got a boost when it was featured. One caveat, though: The tool is designed for Wikipedia, not Wikivoyage, and if you change any of the settings in the input boxes (language, date range, or article), it will default to Wikipedia. You have to play games with the URL to get Wikivoyage statistics to show up. LtPowers (talk) 18:57, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Acheng edit

Hi Pashley, in an effort to delete and recreate almost-empty articles (to lose the WT link), I was looking to recreate Acheng. I'm not familiar with the Chinese administrative structures, however, and I'm a bit at a loss. If I understand correctly (just from the WP article), it's a sort of administrative district of Harbin. You created the article, however, and did call it a city. Indeed, WP also mentions a city of Acheng. Are these two different entities, or does the city serve as a district? I'll recreate it just the way you did for now, but would be interested to get a better understanding. Thanks! JuliasTravels (talk) 18:14, 4 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Okay, I think it actually was a city of its own, but was merged with Harbin a number of years ago. That leaves the question if we should treat it as a destination of its own, or as a district of Harbin :-) Thanks! JuliasTravels (talk) 18:34, 4 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
China has an odd system, see List_of_Chinese_provinces_and_regions#Lower-level_divisions. For example, see Fuzhou#Districts; the prefecture includes both urban districts and rural counties. There is no separate city government; the administrative structure is all at prefecture or district & county level. Some counties are centered on towns of half a million or so; those have no separate town gov't, just a county gov't. If a Chinese says he is from "Fuzhou", it can mean anywhere in the prefecture, not just the actual city. If he says "Changle", it can mean anywhere in the county, not just the actual town.
I suspect the Acheng/Harbin relation is something like that, but am not actually certain. I don't know that part of the country. Pashley (talk) 21:50, 4 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Alright. That would suggest that its an administrative merge, not so much a physical agglomeration of the towns, and from a travellers point of view this place would probably have to be seen as a destination of its own (considering also the size). I'll leave it like this then, and hope someone with more knowledge of the exact local situation will come by some day :-) Thanks for the reply. JuliasTravels (talk) 08:00, 5 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

WikiChronos- edit

This will be at Wikiversity for scoping reasons.. Please comment on the draft article thereSfan00 IMG (talk) 13:08, 9 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Re: Script nominations edit

Hello. I'm not going to run my bot in the near future, I just created it's userpage. But I will discuss any task I would like to do, If there was need to run it in the future. Regards.--Avocato (talk) 19:56, 15 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Welcome edit

Hello Pashley. Thanks for the recommendatios. I edit in Spanish Wikivoyage. I edit in Spanish Wikivoyage.--Samaniego123 (talk) 15:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

An award for you! edit

  The Veteran Writer's Award
This special award is being given to you for your long community service and fine writing. Well done and keep up the excellent work. Saqib (talk) 15:37, 25 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
You sure deserve it, Pashley! ϒpsilon (talk) 15:51, 25 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Definitely! It was long overdue. After-all, Pashley is with us since 2006, has a quality of being a calm admin and a good travel writer. --Saqib (talk) 16:01, 25 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, guys. Pashley (talk) 16:18, 25 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'm so happy to see Mohenjo-daro featured on the main page. Finally, we've got a Pakistani featured article on WV. Thanks for making this possible. --Saqib (talk) 13:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

PyeongChang edit

Hi Pashley,

I already explained on the 'talk' page of PyeongChang that this was that this slightly different spelling is used in advertizing for the next Winter Olympic games. Therefore the redirect should be valid. (Otherwise someone may create another page for this town)

Can we please undelete?

Thanks --Andrewssi2 (talk) 00:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Done. Pashley (talk) 01:07, 20 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Andrewssi2 (talk) 03:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Redirect deletion edit

You seem to be deleting a bunch of redirects; can I ask why? Some of them are useful, for search engine optimization if nothing else. Powers (talk) 15:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

I think the point was to get rid of extra links to WT. See WV:Deletion policy#Related question. Texugo (talk) 15:30, 21 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Yes. A better link is Wikivoyage_talk:Deletion_policy#Related_question. Pashley (talk) 15:36, 21 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Oops, that's what I meant to link to, just forgot to put "talk" in the address... Texugo (talk) 15:46, 21 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

An award for you! edit

  The Wikivoyage Barncompass
This barnstar for your particularly fine contributions to Wikivoyage Sonusmarty (talk) 00:02, 10 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wikivoyage:No real world threats‎ edit

Hi, I wrote a response to your revert at Wikivoyage talk:No real world threats‎ but I don't know if you've seen it yet. Would I be allowed to create a subsection of the policy page and soft redirect it to meta:Threats of harm? Or should I use a separate page and point the subsection there? I'm thinking others might search for certain terms like Wikivoyage:Suicide and Wikivoyage:Threats of suicide.

The rationale I gave was basically that different procedures exist for dealing with threats of suicide vs dealing with threats of litigation. For example, blocking is never the correct procedure when someone is threatening suicide, but always applied in cases of legal threats. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 04:12, 26 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Feedback edit

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Thank you edit

Thanks for your contributions to the article of Zhuhai.I am now settling in Zhuhai,I hope I can write something about it on this platform especially in Chinese version.I am a newcomer of Wiki Voyage,so it is fresh for me eveywhere.I was so happy to find that many details inclued in the article.Now I am doing the translation to the Chinese version,also add somehing new of my own.I hope you can contribute many other Chinese cities on Voyage.And enjoy your trip in China next time.Thank you.--Shiouloo (talk) 07:10, 11 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Page banners edit

Hi Pashley, when you add banners with wrong ratio like in Campina Grande, please add the crop template below the banner, so that we can discover and edit it easier. Cheers! Danapit (talk) 14:47, 29 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

OK. I was not aware of that template. Pashley (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Yep. It is quite useful, as it adds Category:Banner needs cropping to the article. I check that from time to time, and maybe others do, too. Danapit (talk) 16:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Taxila edit

Hi Pashley, I was looking for someone who could help me with Taxila article and you came first to my mind. You did a great job on Mohenjo-daro and since Taxila is somewhat related to Mohenjo-daro in the some sense. Would you be able to write a "Understand" section of Taxila as well? I'll focus on expanding and improving the practical information. Thanks! --Saqib (talk) 00:04, 22 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Dhamtour edit

Thanks for the cooperation. It is worth noting that it was this same user who started the Dhamtour article on WP, and their additions there have been repeatedly reverted over there too. See the WP article history. Texugo (talk) 15:54, 2 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Resorts article edit

Hi Pashley, you proposed the creation of a general article on resorts like ClubMed/Van der Falk here, how would you like to carry it out? Cheers, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 08:25, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Upload files, Upload Wizard? edit


Hello! Sorry for writing in English. As you're an administrator here, please check the message I left on MediaWiki talk:Licenses and the village pump. Thanks, Nemo 19:22, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sockpuppets, previously plagiarized from your talk page edit

You may be interested in a discussion taking place at User talk:Texugo#Sockpuppets, chased from EN wikipedia to here. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:27, 21 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Cebu edit

Hey there. I was just wondering how you planned to link Metro Cebu from its parent article (Cebu (island). Should the parent be dividing into Metro Cebu plus another couple of regions (north/south or something)? Texugo (talk) 15:58, 24 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Not sure, but the parent should be Cebu Province not Cebu Island. See Talk:Cebu (island). Pashley (talk) 00:28, 25 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thank you edit

Hi Pashley. Thank you for welcomed to Wikivoyage. I'm an editor on Spanish Wikivoyage too, and I'm translating Nuuk into Spanish. I've found some errors in pages and I fixed it, and I'll continuing doing it. Thank you again :), --Boscarino16 (talk) 01:43, 25 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Attribution issues at WT edit

If it's the image of the pyramid it seems it came from Wikimedia Commons, ( and is attributed to the Commons uploader on it's file description page at The Other Travel wiki). However, some digging on Commons, brought up a prominent warning about the lack of Freedom of Panorama in the origin country, concerning the original photo the banner was cropped from. This may also be a concern worth raising if you fell strongly enough.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:26, 6 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Support request with team editing experiment project edit

Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here:, I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.

Comment on my talk page edit

Pashley, I read your comment on my talk page, saying the "proper" way to add emphasis. I know how to add emphasis, so I didn't need that tip; and that clear up was applying to my pages only, not elsewhere on Wikivoyage. Donny (talk) 21:42, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

About your comment on Goa edit

Thankyou sir, but as is seen in this comparison, I had added the internal link rather than the external one. Abhinav paulite (talk) 16:29, 24 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Typo edit

Yikes! I meant "the battle" here! I make lots of terrible typos in edit summaries. Oy!

Thanks for all your edits, and I hope I don't seem too nitpicky. I find you one of the more interesting editors on this site.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:36, 8 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thank's edit

Thank you for your suggestion

Spanish Iquitos article. edit

May you check the article of Iquitos? This is the city where I live and I wish this become a star article.

[Iquitos on Spanish Wikivoyage]

Yo no hablo espanol. Pashley (talk) 03:21, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

An award for you! edit

  The Wikivoyage Barncompass
Bravo UMAIR SHAREEEF (talk) 07:14, 1 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Bactria edit

Hi. I've never visited Afghanistan, thereby I can be helpful from a theoretical point of view. Reading about the role played by Greek communities abroad has been my favorite pastime since my early teens. The books in which I first read about the Hellenistic Kingdoms was a childhood gift from my grandparents. I've already started editing Bactria trying to do my best. I confess I was amazed to discover your travel topics. See you soon --Gobbler (talk) 18:14, 10 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Feel free to correct my edits. My English is still poor --Gobbler (talk) 20:50, 10 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Wolves edit

I note you added the section on wolves into Dangerous animals. I am uneasy about the sentence that wolves are extremely dangerous if provoked. My understanding is that you generally should behave aggressively if a wolf is approaching you, which could be though of as provoking it and our advice thus lead to people not defending themselves. Is there a real risk that a wolf would choose to fight out of pride?

The issue is probably best discussed at the talk page.

--LPfi (talk) 18:51, 15 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Spurious maps edit

Hi, I've replied to your comment on the Grand Trunk Road. I hardly edit here at all, so I don't know what the usual procedure is with citations (there seem to be very few of them in place). I've improved the EN wikipedia a bit, but have been finding that the problem of spurious maps cannot be combatted in Commons, where nothing can be deleted if it is in use on other projects (see here if you are interested in the bureaucratic problem). Consequently, maps in Commons cannot be trusted. Sorry, I didn't mean to edit war with you. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:14, 12 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Citations are not used in article namespace but can be used on talk pages when needed. Pashley (talk) 13:19, 12 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your thanks! edit

--Tineykitty (talk) 15:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Space edit

Sorry but... what should I look on that article?--Neurorebel (talk) 01:23, 19 June 2017 (UTC)--Neurorebel (talk) 01:23, 19 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

What I suggested was a page about the Earth, but a page awbout the is needed too universe. --Neurorebel (talk) 21:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Philippine English edit

I created a guide for English for Philippines-related destinations articles, which provides a guide on English spelling, and differences in vocabulary (including British words in Philippine English, terms only used in Philippine English, or English words that has a different meaning in Philippine English)

Here is a list of some English vocabulary that are only used in the Philippines, or have a different meaning in Philippine English.

  • carnap - to steal a car
  • center island - raised median divider (usually with trees and plants)
  • city/town proper - downtown; city/town/municipal center; poblacion area (usually found in road signs)
  • computer shop - internet café
  • diversion road - bypass road (though the two terms are often interchanged)
  • ecobag - cloth bag
  • estafa - swindling (usually a legal term)
  • footbridge - pedestrian overpass (can also mean any pedestrian bridge)
  • gutter - curb
  • hand-carry - carry-on baggage
  • maniac - sexually perverted person
  • motel - low cost hotels, known for hourly rates and notorious for being a haven for illicit sex (similar to the Japanese "love hotels")
  • pension house - family-owned guest house
  • post - utility pole (from Spanish poste "pole", also borrowed into Philippine languages)
  • presidentiable - candidate for president
  • rotunda - roundabout (from Spanish rotunda, also borrowed into Philippine languages)
  • rubber shoes - sneakers
  • salvage - summary execution (though the more universal term "extrajudicial killing/EJK" slowly replaces it from 2016, after the start of Rodrigo Duterte's anti-drug campaign)
  • side mirror - side-view mirrors
  • vetsin - generic trademark for monosodium glutamate
  • village - residential subdivision

If you can specify other words that have a different meaning or unique to Philippine English, you may help. And in my opinion, a separate article about Philippine English (as a Talk sub-topic) may be possible to handle all of those cases. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 10:10, 5 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

As a foreigner in the country, I think the only new words I've learned are jeepney & barangay, plus some new usage like comfort room & the Filipino use of "load". I'd say pretty much all a visitor really needs is already in the infobox at Philippines#Talk; in fact I want to shorten that. On the other hand, if you want to do this, why not? Pashley (talk) 01:42, 6 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

That can be possible on a separate article, as what you pointed, you want the "Talk" section to be short. When I will create the "Philippine English" article, that can be linked to it as one of the "see also" articles along with the Filipino phrasebook. My purpose for that is to further explain the English used in the Philippines, like the differences in vocabulary (like those I shown on this thread), and also grammatical differences, peculiar pronunciations (like the Visayans pronouncing written short "e" as a short "i"), and usage in speech (usually code-switching, like Taglish) TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 02:58, 6 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hello edit

Hi there just saying hello. --Warfare910 (talk) 15:53, 25 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

"Cities" sections edit

hi Pashley thank you for your advice on iran i omited one city that is less important than other and one important city. i think it is better we have some advantage to select city, like unesco world heritage sites or some thing like this. in that list we have some city that are not important to international travel who come to Wikivoyage to have good travel like qom and we don,t have some city like kerman that have 5 sites in unesco list. if you are agree i change that list. thank you Sadegh sadegh (talk) 05:13, 25 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

If I may, Sadegh sadegh: As I already said on my user talk page, you must post your argument to Talk:Iran and wait for some time (probably several days, at least) until a consensus either develops or does not develop in favor of your proposal. It is quite insufficient for you to convince one or two people individually on their user talk pages. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:29, 25 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Just a heads up edit

Regarding this, please see this user's contribution history and specifically this diff. This is a spammer that ThunderingTyphoons and I have been dealing with lately, albeit with a far more sophisticated MO than the bots we're used to. The contributions they make look valuable at first blush, but the external links they incorporate into them lead to spam sites. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:37, 29 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thank you edit

Thanks, Pashley, for unleashing your awesome powers of destruction on those sandbox pages of mine. Cheerio, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:06, 8 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Can you check this new article please? edit

I wrote an article (stub) about this garden in Shanghai. It would be great if you take a look before I publish it. One of the sources is the Chinese Guilin Park article:桂林公园 Szalai.laci (talk) 16:25, 20 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey edit

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Help for Batangas, Batangas City pages edit

I am currently working on fixing the page for Batangas and starting out the page for Batangas City, but there are no other users editing on those. I moved some hotel entries for Batangas City from the Batangas page, added other destination that should have their own pages (Taal; Taal Volcano, resort towns i.e. Calatagan, Lian, Mabini, Nasugbu, San Juan; Talisay), and created more detailed "Get in" and "Get around" sections. Can you help on this pages? TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 18:19, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Sex Tourism Policy.. edit

I note you had a more extensive redraft of this. Any reason why it can't be swapped in? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Draft is at User_talk:Pashley/STP. I see no reason it should not be swapped in but, like everything on this topic, that might be controversial. Pashley (talk) 10:22, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, Also note that a recent US law has much enhanced anti-trafficking provisions, My reading of (w:Stop_Enabling_Sex_Traffickers_Act) is that there is no longer Section 230 protection in this area, Something for WMF legal? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:39, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I think WMF legal should have a look at this. Pashley (talk) 11:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
My next suggestion would therefore be that an adminstrator (or group of administrators) makes an appropriate formal request to the relevant WMF legal contact then. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:11, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Speedy request edit

Can you speedy, User:ShakespeareFan00/Kinkspace, already blanked? Despite being drafted in good faith, it's my view it would not be possible to reconcile it with certain policy. Therefore it will never be a viable travel topic. Already blanked, and thus can be speedy deleted (same logic as CSD #U1 on English Wikipedia. Thanks ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:51, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

  Done, though I'd say it had some potential to become a valid travel topic. Pashley (talk) 10:59, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thank you.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Concerns edit

Noticed something off in the Recent changes so decided to make a check on this IP's history. Special:Contributions/

Would appreciate an admin reverting to an appropriate version of the articles, revison deleteing this IP's contributions (not sure Wikivoyage has oversighters) and lodging the appropriate paperwork with the originating ISP (in North Dakota apparently), the edit summaries suggest this was targeted vandalism, rather than a new user making a test edit. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:18, 12 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Well spotted. Another admin had already reverted & banned the user by the time I checked. If you notice more like this, report them at Wikivoyage:Vandalism in progress. Pashley (talk) 00:34, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Your feedback matters: Final reminder to take the global Wikimedia survey edit

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A heads up... edit

Im a new user not a vandal. just saying. Saubono (talk) 03:43, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Tipping in the Philippines edit

Tipping is also expected in the Philippines, especially in the form of a service charge, but I don't see anything about those in its country page. If you have been on the Philippines, have you expected to be tipped, and what is the usual percentage? You may even update the page about tipping into add this new info. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 13:26, 4 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Good question, but I have no good answer. I've been spending winters in the Philippines & going back to Canada for summers for several years now. This time, I arrived in November & will leave in two more weeks. I'm not sure if there is a "usual percentage" or other rule we could give.
Certainly people do tip, at least in the mostly-foreigner bars I frequent. Pashley (talk) 13:51, 4 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Pudong edit

I added big bamboo ever heard? --Kelvo833 (talk) 02:33, 13 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Libertarianmoderate edit

Thank you for the info. I hope that we will be able to work together for the benefit of Wikivoyage in the near future.

Driving in the Philippines page edit

I am currently working on driving-related sections of the Philippines page as well as some regional pages, and creating a draft for a separate page for the Driving in the Philippines page (currently on my sandbox). With a lot of driving-related information to be written, the section in the Philippines page cannot cover everything that has not been worked on, that having most info in a separate topic page is a good idea. Any questions or thoughts about it?.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

See Driving in China for comparison. Pashley (talk) 11:59, 16 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Block edit

If you are an admin, can you block a vandal who is creating problems currently? Thanks. ---Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

if you mean BuddhaKuk, he was done before I got there. If someone else, give me a link. Pashley (talk) 01:00, 26 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Yes, that's the vandal I mean. It seems like they've stopped. Thanks anyway. ---Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:20, 26 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Shawn Arnolds is making personal attacks! edit

Could you block him as a sock of John574??IanDBeacon (talk) 16:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

ADD edit

I noticed you were the one who created the “ADD” redirect. I recently created an article about traveling with ADHD. I made a redirect for [[ADHD], and I wanted to make another redirect for the alternate name for the condition as well. But it’s already in use. Would you mind if I moved it? Vulcandor (talk) 01:49, 21 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

No problem. I created a lot of airport code redirects a while back. Please check if the redirect is in use, though. Pashley (talk) 07:17, 21 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

I feel like both of us are misunderstanding this edit

K7L made several edits of this nature. Why did you rollback this one and only this one? You either pressed it by accident or did it for good reason, I'm pretty sure of that. I'm wondering, though, because it seems so odd to do this. Thanks. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:22, 12 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Accidental. Thanks for catching it. Pashley (talk) 03:27, 12 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
I've done a rollback on your last 2 edits accordingly. I can do another edit and use the edit summary to explain the rollback if you want me to do so. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

KQ edit

Thanks.but please tell me more about this website. Kutlo Queen (talk) 14:02, 21 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Work on the Mabini page edit

I just added hotel and resort listings on the Mabini article, but I have not much idea of other activities and destinations, other than the resorts and scuba diving spots, because I haven't even reached them yet. I don't know if you might have been there, but I agree more work is needed (Mabini is just a new page here, but there is a significant number of listings of interest there). Mabini should have its own page with significant coverage as like those in Boracay, Puerto Galera, Panglao Island, etc., if it hasn't been left out.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 06:03, 24 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

I know almost nothing about that region, might visit it for the first time a few months from now. There are some fair-sized towns like w:Lemery, Batangas that lack articles here. Pashley (talk) 06:11, 24 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
But Taal does, just new also, like Mabini, and the same goes for Nasugbu, Calatagan and Lian. Lemery should have its own coverage here also, though Taal is more significant to a traveler.
I'm sure you agree Mabini should have been significantly covered from the ground up, not left out in favor of spots like Boracay and Puerto Galera. The rest of Batangas should have been significantly covered also, given its proximity to Manila, however, lack of interest in editing by earlier users have made the region lag behind those far from the metro, which have became more covered. I do have knowledge of the region, but I have no further ideas.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 06:47, 24 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
I do not agree that Mabini is as important as the places you mention, or even other tourist centers like El Nido, Moalboal & Panglao, but as I do not know the area, I could easily be wrong. Certainly if you or someone else wants to improve Mabini coverage, I'm in favour of that. Pashley (talk) 10:38, 24 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
You may find it out if you can get there on the coming months, and in reality, Mabini has its reputation as a diving spot not too far from Manila, but not as very important as those in the islands in Visayas. The same also goes with the rest of Batangas, and it is listed as one of the "Other destinations" in the Philippines page. Locals and foreigners go there alike for the resorts and diving spots reachable from Manila within two hours by car. Mabini does have coverage in Diving in the Philippines, but having an article for the location works better with it. I am currently working with "Understand", "Get in", and "Get around", and I just have added a banner for the page, and I'm thie only user currently editing Mabini.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 18:45, 24 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Zhuhai recommendation edit

Hello! I see that you're a docent for Zhuhai. I'm planning a trip to Zhuhai at the end of this month (shortly before Chinese New Year). We're planning to stay in Gongbei, but maybe take a day trip to one of the islands. There doesn't seem to be too much information about the islands in the article, though—do you have any recommendations for which island would be best for a day trip? Thanks! —Granger (talk · contribs) 11:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, but it is over ten years since I lived there & I never got to the islands. Macau is a fine place to visit, especially Macau/Coloane. Pashley (talk) 12:31, 14 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

An unfortunate typo edit

I'm glad you corrected this typo, given this tragic event. Ground Zero (talk) 15:21, 23 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

connecting our Exsilio app with wikivoyage edit

Thanks again for your note. I've been editing wiki pages for awhile but can't find a way to start a discussion about a possible collaboration to link Creative Commons app tours to wiki. Who do I approach? I've scoured all the help sites etc and can't find an entry. Thanks in advance for any pointers. ChufiBandit ChufiBandit (talk) 20:40, 9 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Probably the pub is the best you can do. Has Has anyone other than me commented there? Pashley (talk) 20:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

The only other comment was someone who said "great". I don't know if there's a formal process for starting a collaboration. I could convert itineraries into tours (the idea is to have something on your cell phone that will lead you through a tour and have material pop up when you approach a point of interest. Everything would be in the CC license rules. But I'd far rather work with the people who developed the original information particip0ate. Perhaps I could contact some of them directly. ChufiBandit

Community Insights Survey edit

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Thomas Cook.... edit

I'd made some edits this morning, but I may have left some references in Indian destinations (because it's not clear if the Indian subsiduary is affected at the moment.)

Also, commented, because I'm not sure how the Canadian business related to the UK one. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

The remaining insource references are - ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:55, 23 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Philistines and Palestine edit

Not at all the same people, but of course the Romans renamed Judaea Palestine in order to insult the newly expelled Jews. That said, note how Jews embraced the name of Palestinians during the mandate. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:13, 27 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Reminder: Community Insights Survey edit

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An award for you! edit

  The Wikivoyage Barncompass
Hi Pashley

I just saw your message and I am happy about that, on your user page, I saw some external links, does it matter if I add some external links on my User pages? I am looking forward to your reply

with regards Chris Chrisjonesaus2 (talk) 03:47, 28 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

In case he doesn't see your message for a little while: They can't be commercial links. Read external links#what not to link to, in addition to the other links you've been given on your user talk page. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:24, 28 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
I'd say one link, without any touting, to an employer is OK. Others might disagree.
Some people post a long screed about how wonderful their hotel, bar or whatever is. That is definitely out of bounds. Pashley (talk) 07:35, 29 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Help needed for Christmas in the Philippines edit


Can you help in expanding/improving the Christmas in the Philippines article? I think it still needs further work, especially with the lead, Understand, See, and Do sections, that you may add up to based on what you know when you're on vacation there for the winter. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 04:32, 21 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hey edit

Hey Pashley, I kind of expected that my proposals on the sex tourism policy discussion wouldn't fly with you, but I don't think there is going to be much support for your position on this. There is a surprising level of prudishness here. I'm just trying to manage things so that we don't go too far down the road of policing people. Regards, Ground Zero (talk) 04:00, 10 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Telstra edit

Pashley, you still don't recognize a Telstra vandal username. That guy is not subtle. Name + 3-4 numbers pretty much every time. We get very infrequent false positives, but you didn't notice, I guess, that I already rolled back that username's only edit. It's not worth wasting your time greeting the newest sockpuppet of the Tesltra man: He won't pay attention. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:04, 2 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Shogi edit

Just wondering, how much do you know about shogi (Japanese chess)? I'm not the most familiar with it, and I've only barely played a few games, but it definitely has interesting rules, and there are professional tournaments you can watch in Japan. If you are familiar with it, I think it would be great if you could start an article on it, just as I did with xiangqi (Chinese chess). The dog2 (talk) 17:16, 9 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

I know almost nothing about it. Pashley (talk) 23:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Flying Tigers Air Bases? edit

Hi, could not find any entries or references to the Flying Tigers at all, although they are a interesting portion of Yunnan (China) History. I know of one region somewhere around Dali I believe that locals remember the american volunteers, and was wondering if you had heard anything about it. i might start an article about it, if I can remember specifics. Thanks for your time.Mulstev (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

We do mention them at Pacific_War#Other_cities & w:Flying Tigers has quite a bit. I know nothing beyond that. Pashley (talk) 02:12, 29 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

We sent you an e-mail edit

Hello Pashley,

Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email

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An award for you! edit

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See the full message at User talk:LivelyRatification SHB2000 (talk) 12:07, 23 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Lutheran bishops edit

You wrote (in Christianity) that the Anglican Church "is in many ways closer to the Catholic and Orthodox churches than to other Protestant churches in doctrine and structure; for example it has bishops and archbishops, though no cardinals or pope."

So have we. I suppose there are bishops (and usually a archbishop or similar) in countries with a tradition of a Lutheran state church, while they may be absent where the Protestant Church is one out of many, without connection to the state (such as on your side of the pond).

The Anglican Church may still be closer to the Catholic Church also in organisation than Lutherans. Our archbishop is a primus inter pares, and this seems to be a common arrangement, and I suppose no Lutheran archbishop is above any other, while Anglicans (according to the article) have a "head of Church" and the Archbishop of Canterbury.

I don't know the Anglicans, nor any Protestant churches outside Northern Europe. Can you find a way to reword the paragraph to accommodate the Lutheran bishops.

LPfi (talk) 17:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Welcoming Telstra again instead of reverting their vandalism edit

Here, here, and here. Please let me know if there's anything I or someone else can do to help you recognise this person. Best wishes, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 08:50, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Odd behaviour from IP edit

Just putting in a word, as you're the most recently active admin in Recent Changes, that there's an IP (Special:Contributions/ engaging in a strange form of successively blanking articles over multiple edits. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 03:35, 30 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Blocked for 3 months for vandalism. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Trigger discipline edit

Thanks for the addition. A terrain biker over here was killed last year when a hunter used his telescopic sight to take a look. The police found that the trigger of his rifle was extremely sensitive. Perhaps he wasn't aware that his safety was unset. One too many of the common safeguards were ignored – there is never one too many observed. –LPfi (talk) 10:32, 3 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Site map? edit

Swept in from the pub

I just found a page in my user space whose existence I'd forgotten & that was last edited in 2015. User:Pashley/Site_map was an attempt to provide an index to all pages on the site. I'm not certain now that this is a particularly good idea or, if it is, that I'd found the right approach.

Does anyone like the idea and want to develop it? Pashley (talk) 08:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

simplewiki has something half of that. I'm not exactly a huge fan of that, as in my opinion, all these maintenance pages should be hidden from public view. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:54, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
I was not thinking of it as a maintenance page, but as an index to help readers navigate. I'm not certain it is very useful for that, though. Pashley (talk) 09:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Is it similar to w:Wikipedia:Contents/A–Z index in Wikipedia? When I set up the Japanese Wikivoyage, it wasn't created because it wasn't in the English Wikivoyage. I think index is usefull for readers, but I think it's too late for that now because there are too many articles. --Tmv (talk) 09:54, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Not exactly a maintenance page, but it's mainly the "How to pages" section that's putting it down. But apart from that, looking good. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 13:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
My understanding is that site maps are primarily used to allow site visitors to get a grip on the logic of the page hierarchy and find pages which were not easily found through the site's normal means of navigation. I think we should explain our geographic hierarchy, with the continents etc. just a complement. There is a try at explaining main namespace pages outside the hierarchy, but it needs to be developed. Then there are policy and help pages, which should have links to index pages (do we have complete help and guideline indexes?), the user namespace, files and templates. The category system, with a few top categories listed, could be a great help. A sitemap should be complete, I don't know whether we have any means to check whether it is. A complete list of pages would be much too long even if broken up in some way. –LPfi (talk) 13:58, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
I like the idea of having an outline of pages listed and grouped by hierarchy. It may even be possible to be done by a bot. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:37, 3 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Redirect and Disambiguation ban for Soumya-8974 edit

Hi Pashley, I'm just letting you know that I started a thread on WV:UBN to consider Soumya-8974 to be banned for all redirects and disambiguation pages. I'm just letting you know since you've dealt with this user's redirects so many times, that your opinion would be greatly appreciated in my proposal.

Cheers, SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:56, 24 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Why do Wikivoyagers have to pick a side in this? edit

Why is there no middle road? I'd like to join the horde of Daleks shrieking, "Extermducate! Extermducate!" ;-) Ground Zero (talk) 00:08, 28 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

If anyone cares, the discussion this is a comment on is at Wikivoyage:User_ban_nominations/Archive#DhrGabriel. Pashley (talk) 03:12, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Dinosaur Provincial Park edit

Was wondering if you could contribute to the Dinosaur Provincial Park article as you created it in 2007, but it was redirected to Brooks the next year and I cannot understand why that was done. Anyway, it's now an article back again after 13 years. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:25, 20 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks; it deserves an article. I cannot contribute much since I last visited it as a child in the late 1950s. Pashley (talk) 08:53, 20 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

How we will see unregistered users edit


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Editing an archive edit

I routinely revert edits to archives like this, but I'm not doing so out of respect for you. My feeling is, if you think it's so important to reply to an archived thread, you should unarchive it; however, I don't think it's important to reply, in this case. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:33, 25 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ooops. Pashley (talk) 00:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Your improper deletion of Blanc Sablon-Forteau edit

Whilst I may have slightly favoured keeping Blanc Sablon-Forteau as a redirect (and I was okay with deletion), that is not why I'm starting this thread.

Quoting the policy:

  • If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to delete, an administrator may delete it.
  • If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to redirect or merge, any Wikivoyager may do it. If you make a redirect, please check for any resulting broken redirects or double redirects.

Now to the redirect. Blanc Sablon-Forteau was nominated on July 11 and you deleted the redirect on July 21 – meaning the discussion had only been left open for 10 days. This is contrary to policy, which requires all deletion requests to be open for 14 days unless there's a compelling reason otherwise. Care to explain why you didn't follow policy and deleted the redirect four days earlier? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:58, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Noticed the consensus, missed the date. My mistake, thanks for pointing it out, & I'll be more careful in future.
No big deal; it probably should have been speedied instead of nominated in the first place. Pashley (talk) 08:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Okay, but why speedy? It doesn't meet the criteria for speedy deletion. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:38, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Please don't welcome LTAs and sockpuppets edit

Pashley, please don't welcome LTAs like you did at User talk:AussieQuarantineGuy – it just gives them the attention they seek. I see you've already been told about this before at #Welcoming Telstra again instead of reverting their vandalism, but your welcoming of AussieQuarantineGuy was not the first time you've welcomed sockpuppets before. You as an admin, especially one since the times of Wikitravel, need to be able to identify and recognise sockpuppets – it's one of the key things an admin needs to know. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 08:19, 25 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

I welcome new users when I notice them, often without looking at their edits. If I do welcome some vandals, that seems harmless.
In future, I'll have a look at an edit or two (when I remember) before posting. However, often it is hard to tell if an edit is constructive or vandalism & I'm definitely not going to spend significant effort on recognising puppets. Pashley (talk) 12:32, 25 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Apologies for a little late response, but if you're not going to spend significant effort of recognising socks, then.... All I have to say is, you as an admin should know how to recognise a sock, especially being one since the early days of Wikitravel. Welcoming vandals is really not "harmless"; it gives them the attention they seek and makes it harder for other users to warn if necessary. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:27, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

User:Pashley/AC edit

I have nominated your userspace page for deletion. Feel free to weigh in at Wikivoyage:Votes for deletion#User:Pashley/AC. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 23:33, 17 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Desysop nom. edit

I've made a nomination to desysop your account – you're free to weigh in at Wikivoyage:User rights nominations#Pashley (removal). Regards, --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 02:56, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Happy holidays! edit

Happy holidays, Pashley!

Hello Pashley, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! It has been a pleasure to have you as a fellow Wikivoyager this year. Wherever you are, enjoy the festive season and stay warm (if you're north of the Tropic of Cancer)! Your help in maintaining, improving and expanding Wikivoyage will always be appreciated.

Greetings from Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
--SHB2000 on 12:33, 24 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

New Winter Palace edit

You added info about the New Winter Palace in Grand old hotels as well as in Luxor/East Bank. On historic images of Google Earth I see the New Winter Palace present in February 2007 and gone in June 2009. In January 2022 it still is not there. Is it really rebuild in 2022? FredTC (talk) 11:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Looks like there were changes I was not aware of. WP has:
In 1975 the complex was expanded with the construction of the New Winter Palace. The addition, classified as a 3-star hotel, was joined by corridors to the original. It was demolished in 2008.
In 1996, the Pavillon, a 4-star annex with 116 rooms, was built in the rear garden of the Winter Palace, close to the swimming pool.
I'll update the text. Pashley (talk) 13:44, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Canada list duplicated edit

With [this edit] you duplicated the Canada list in the article. I'm afraid that simply deleting one of them would not result into what is wanted, because many edits have followed. FredTC (talk) 11:29, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Good grief. I have no idea how that happened. I've fixed Canada, but it looks like the weird edit also took out an Eastern Europe section; I'll have look at that but am not sure if I can fix it. Pashley (talk) 11:45, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
OK, fixed that too, Pashley (talk) 11:51, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Mesopotamia edit

Checking if redirects are needed Sumer Akkad Babylon Assur Assyria. Pashley (talk) 05:32, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Done. Did I miss any? Pashley (talk) 05:49, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Digital nomad visas edit

Hi, You deleted Digital nomad visas, "Per votes for deletion". But how come no one notified me of the deletion debate? I've been contributing to Wikimedia projects for more than 16 years and it's the first time such a thing happens to me... A455bcd9 (talk) 07:53, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

See Talk:Digital nomad visas. Since you created the article, I'd have thought you'd have it watchlisted & would have seen that already. See also the article that replaced it, Digital nomad. Pashley (talk) 13:39, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi. I mostly edit on Wikipedia. I never check my watchlist on all other Wikimedia projects where I contribute from time to time as there are dozens of them (French and Turkish WP, French and Occitan Wiktionary, Commons, etc.). So no, I couldn't see it. Anyway it's fine but in the future: ping contributors in the talk page (notifications are cross projects) :)
Have a good weekend, A455bcd9 (talk) 17:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Copper Canyon ? edit

Hi Pashley! Yesterday, I deleted Copper Canyon from the article about Indigenous people in North America because it doesn't seem to fit in with a list of destinations that is tightly tied to indigenous peoples, such as monuments or historic indigenous settlements. While Copper Canyon is home to many Tarahamura, they aren't generally the reason people go there: they go for the spectacular natural scenery, to do mule treks into the canyon, to ride the scenic train...they may encounter Tarahamura, but there aren't really museums or monuments to their culture. Is there a reason you feel it should be listed? If so, I suggest expanding the description of the place to tell travelers what to look for that makes it an "indigenous" place and not just another natural wonder. Just a thought. Mrkstvns (talk) 14:25, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

I just noticed it was in Mexico & you'd deleted it from a US list, so I put it back under Mexico. Beyond that, I do not know. Someone thought it worth adding. Pashley (talk) 01:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Where should Inca Empire redirect? edit

Hi pashley, I'm trying to understand what made you redirect Inca Empire to Inca Highlands instead of leaving the redirect to Indigenous cultures of South America. Can you enlighten us as to your reasoning? It looks to me like the previous redirect was to a much better article that's more traveler-focused than the new redirect. Regards, Mrkstvns (talk) 14:30, 7 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Highlands is actually about areas with relics of the empire. Indigenous cultures includes lots of non-Inca stuff. Pashley (talk)

Philippines edit

Hey, this might be a bit out of left-field, but I was wondering if you might have a place or two to recommend in the Philippines for short-term digital nomading. I'm currently in Vietnam, but I'll have a month free early next year, and I've never been to the Philippines, though for some reason it's a bit intimidating in my head, not sure why (Manila?). I'm essentially just looking for decent internet speed (I write code), walkabilty to amenities, and hopefully some sort of charm. Absolutely zero obligation to answer and/or also happy to email if you'd think it more appropriate. Thanks, Brycehughes (talk) 10:25, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Dumaguete would be my first choice. Perhaps Metro Cebu or Bacolod if you prefer a larger city, Moalboal or Bohol if you want diving & backpackers.
What sort of code do you write? See github for some of mine. Pashley (talk) 14:40, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Dumaguete looks... perfect? Thank you! I'm glad I asked. Re code, historically data engineering with Scala. But the JVM is so blasé, so now I write Typescript (which runs on the browser VM... sigh) along with Scala and all the fixings (Postgres, etc.). I haven't written in the C paradigm since high school (I'm not young). Rust looks really cool, I wish I could write that. Brycehughes (talk) 03:39, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

List syntax and newlines edit

I note that you often remove the
construct (such as the one I restored here), probably often added by me where there is an image in the middle of a list. I think you also often prefer having images in lists rather than starting at the top of a section.

The problem here is that the image breaks the list: it makes MediaWiki add a </UL> (end of list) before and <UL> (start of list) after the image. This change of semantics goes mostly unnoticed for users of graphical browsers, but for automated tools, including HTML-to-speech tools, there is a huge difference between one list and two lists.

A better solution would be to tell the browser that the image should be there for layout reasons rather than being connected with a certain bullet, but I don't think MediaWiki provides such a possibility, and I don't know whether HTML and CSS provide for some elegant solution. Until there is a better solution, I think the HTML "comment" is the best way we have: it makes the image and its function apparent in the wikitext and avoids breaking the lists.

(One other thing I tend to do (like in the diff linked above) is to add line breaks to make the images stand out in the code – without changing the layout of the rendered page. It is frustrating to search for a certain passage you find in a diff, or in the rendered page, when the paragraph breaks are invisible in the wikitext, not having the usual blank lines around them.)

LPfi (talk) 09:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the explanation. I'll leave the null comments alone in future. Pashley (talk) 01:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Atlantic City edit

You know I was clearly joking about that Atlantic City thing right?

It's a Spongebob Movie: Sponge on the Run joke!

So, we cool? Christian Traveler (talk) 01:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Deletion of screenshots? edit

Why did you delete a bunch of screenshots without providing any rationale? At the very least, please use WV:VFD or give a reason – we're not mind-readers. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 03:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

They are all linked from Special:UnusedFiles & some have dates like 2014. Pashley (talk) 03:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
A file being listed on Special:UnusedFiles is not a valid rationale for speedy deletions per Wikivoyage:Deletion policy#Speedy deletion as the files were not uploaded onto Commons. At the very least, undelete them and move them to Commons or start a WV:VFD thread, but don't unilaterally speedy them. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 03:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
And by no means are all of your speedy deletions out-of-line (you were right to delete the files already on Commons), but it is your responsibility to undelete those inappropriately deleted and ideally transfer them onto Commons, placing c:Template:Wikimedia-screenshot. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 04:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply