Talk:Piraeus

Piraeus has already been created as a district of Athens. (WT-en) Pjamescowie 05:51, 26 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Athens has dozes of municipalities, Athens municipality cover only the center of the city. Modern Piraeus was build in the dessert at the time area (1834) and take the ancient name Piraeus, which was not used at that time. From 1834 to 1945 was the port of Athens but not intergated into Athens until after ww2 period. The original urban plan of 1834 foresaw that gradually Athens and its port (Piraeus) would be united. Finally after WW2 Piraeus is part of Athens officially. Is a common mistake to write Piraeus is a separate city because of the previous status--85.73.134.128 15:30, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

shouldn't we take it WAY back? Themistocles and the Battle of Salamis and Pericles and Aspasia and Alkibiades and Socrates and Plato and such? Sounds like you don't know the Greek things, oh yes it does. Ibaman (talk) 17:23, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

MODERN Piraeus. As a Greek and as a resident of the area I probably know something--85.73.134.128 17:45, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

it would be a shame to not elaborate on the long and intrincate history of such historically significant harbour... the pos-Salamis long wall ought to have a slight, however brief, mention... agree or disagree? Ibaman (talk) 18:42, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree Ancient Athens at it's best was the most powerful naval city-state--85.73.134.128 20:20, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Redirection

From Project:Votes for deletion

• Piraeus - already created as a district of Athens: Athens/Piraeus (WT-en) Pjamescowie 05:53, 26 Apr 2005 (EDT)
  • Then merge and redirect instead of deleting. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:44, 26 Apr 2005 (EDT)
  • Both pages appear to still exist. Technically, Piraeus appears to be its own city, but in practice I suspect most travelers would consider it a suburb of Athens (it's just 9 km away). Opinions? (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:01, 21 May 2005 (EDT)
    • I'm broadly in favour of treating nearby towns as suburbs of famous cities rather than independent cities when there's a question about it. (Particularly when they share metropolitian infrastructure like public transport -- I don't know if that applies in this case.) It seems more likely to serve the traveller: many more will start at the big city and be looking for things to do in that city than will be looking for the suburbs/satellite cities specifically. My vote (without knowing the area) is merge Piraeus into Athens/Piraeus and redirect. (WT-en) Hypatia 21:49, 19 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Merge proposal

I think this article should be merged into Athens because it's really part of the city, as the IP address 2A02:587:440B:FF00:4CE8:2D08:231A:80C7 thinks. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:47, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose - the Athens article, at 143,000 bytes, is big enough already. Piraeus is 12 km away, has several points of interest, places to eat, drink and sleep. It can stand in its own, with appropriate links between the two articles. Ground Zero (talk) 08:38, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. Also. Piraeus is the port & many travellers go there en route to the Greek Islands, so from the traveller's point of view it is a separate destination. 110.54.243.45 18:13, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
• Comment: I'd be OK with this area being treated as part of Athens, but only if there's a prior decision to wiki-districtify the entire city and have a separate "Athens/Piraeus" article for this area. Until then, Oppose. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)