Talk:Upper Bavaria

Regions

We need sub-regions for Upper Bavaria as with 17 cities, the list has easily passed the maximum of 9. I don't know exactly what to do here though. Bavarian Alps is a logical sub-region, but how would we divide the other parts? --(WT-en) globe-trotter 17:29, 12 August 2010 (EDT)

I would recommend to stick with the official so called Planungregionen [1]. I think those actually make sense from a local's as well as a traveler's point of view.

Forgot to sign Tbp386 (talk) 21:18, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I assume this would mean the following sub-regions:

• Ingolstadt, Ingolstadt (region)
  • Ingolstadt, Eichstätt, Neuburg-Schrobenhausen and Pfaffenhofen an der Ilm
  • Neuburg an der Donau, Schrobenhausen
• München, Munich (region)
  • Munich, Dachau, Ebersberg, Erding, Freising, Fürstenfeldbruck, Landsberg am Lech, and Starnberg
  • Grafing, Moosburg an der Isar.
  • Ammersee,Andechs,Gilching,Munich Airport,
• Oberland Oberland upper Bavaria
  • Bad Tölz-Wolfratshausen, Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Miesbach and Weilheim-Schongau
  • Bad Tölz,Hausham, Murnau am Staffelsee, Penzberg, Peiting, Tegernsee, Rottach-Egern, Bad Wiessee, Gmund am Tegernsee, Weilheim, (Oberbayern), Wolfratshausen, Geretsried.
  • Bad Kohlgrub, Murnau, Mittenwald,Oberammergau,Rottach-Egern,Schongau (Germany),
• Südostoberbayern, South-east upper Bavaria
  • Rosenheim, Altötting, Berchtesgadener Land, Mühldorf am Inn, Rosenheim and Traunstein
  • Altötting, Neuötting, Bad Aibling, Bad Reichenhall, Berchtesgaden, Burghausen, Freilassing, Traunreut, Trostberg, Waldkraiburg and Wasserburg am Inn.
  • Bad Reichenhall,Berchtesgaden National Park,Chiemsee,Prien am Chiemsee,

Traveler100 (talk) 11:32, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Would that not make it too deep? i.e. Germany->Bavaria->Upper Bavaria->Südostoberbayern->Rosenheim ?

Additionally there a lot of potential red-linked articles above that probably exist in WV German, but have not yet been translated. I will be looking at that situation as a side-task, however they won't get translated in the short term. Andrewssi2 (talk) 23:55, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

I would suggest keeping as is for now. If the number of articles in this region increases then the above structure can be used. --Traveler100 (talk) 09:46, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

The article as it is requires loads of work, its lead doesn't even link to Bavaria. Creating a myriad of subregions out of a quite small subregion of a region is not the way to go, IMHO. I would focus on improving the quality of articles as they are and not create subregions containing mostly redlinks unlikely to be replaced by quality articles now given how much work the extant articles still need.

If you find the lists too long, why not simply divide it into "Smaller towns around Munich" and "Mountain resorts" (within the article, not as separate articles) - as a traveller, I would find it more useful than Plannungsregione or any other kind of geographic division I would need to learn and understand.

Agree in keeping the structure in the way that it is. Andrewssi2 (talk) 13:03, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Boarische

I felt worth mentioning the Bavarian dialect spoken in these parts. I only kept it at high level, since although I understand there are many sub-variants of that dialect, the distinctions will be completely lost on visitors. Andrewssi2 (talk) 13:14, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Munich suburbs

Swept in from the pub

Have a look at Upper Bavaria. The area is obviously dominated by Munich and due to happenstance of history, several of its suburbs have not been annexed into Munich. Among those in the Landkreis Munich for which we have articles are Oberschleißheim, Ismaning and Garching. Now if you'd ask me, Munich would annex most of the Landkreis and be done with it, but we do not have the luxury of municipal boundaries doing us a favor. As a stopgap to avoid long lists, I have made a sub-heading in the Upper Bavaria article entitled "Munich suburbs", but the map alone should suffice to explain how hard it is to draw any kind of line. If we do end up splitting the Upper Bavaria region, we might end up with a discontinuous donut... So what say ye? Hobbitschuster (talk) 10:27, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

That sounds like Los Angeles, so maybe whatever we decided about LA would work there. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:40, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

To make things worse, some places that directly border Munich are not even part of the Landkreis... Hobbitschuster (talk) 11:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)