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Nice work cleaning up Virgin Gorda! That article isn't terribly far from star status, by the way. I kind of always meant to make that happen. If that task is something that interests you, I think the main work needed would be a stronger see section, intros for the drink and sleep sections, an interesting lede (instead of the dull current one: "Virgin Gorda is part of the British Virgin Islands"), and probably geocoordinates for the listings. If the last item sounds daunting, I'd be happy to help—let me know ;) --Peter Talk 07:18, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- (continued on Peter's talk page)
I saw that you have removed some listings from Winnipeg#Eat because of the concern that the price sections were too long. I don't think that's really necessary, unless the lists are getting really unwieldly. As an undistricted large city article, it's fair to expect more than 21 restaurants listed in the Winnipeg guide—the recommendations should reflect the variety of restaurants the city has to offer. Checking a random article of mine, I see that I have 23 eat listings for just one district of D.C., and I would actually add 5 more rather than remove any!
The general rule with these types of lists is to introduce additional sorting headers, if they get really long (~15+ per price category?). The 7+2 guidance only applies as a hard rule to cities and other destinations lists in regions articles. So certainly feel free to use your judgement in culling listings for quality, but I wouldn't worry too much about quantity at this point. --Peter Talk 06:29, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- In the Winnipeg case, the listings I removed have some quality issues (e.g. some were cases of new management gone wrong). Plus, there was a significant tilt toward what I would call "gluten-free vegan alternative" restaurants and not enough of the greasy spoon restaurants Winnipeg is known for (e.g. George's, Sal's, VJ's). If I were recreating the list from scratch, I wouldn't have added the listings I removed in the first place. -- Alvanson (talk) 12:17, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- I've removed a few more listings again for quality reasons. A look back into the edit history shows that some of the restaurants now on the cutting room floor were listed over 5 years ago, with all of them listed at least 2½ years ago. Therefore, some pruning of the list was due. 7+2 (the "we're not the Yellow Pages" policy) seemed like a good excuse at the time, but looking back at my notes, there was a clear distinction (based on reviews, first- and second-hand experiences) between what stayed and what went. If there's still some controversy, let's continue the discussion on the Talk:Winnipeg page. -- Alvanson (talk) 23:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for dragging my heels—here is the very rough draft map of Winnipeg's more travel-relevant neighborhoods. Nothing is labeled, but I have a hunch you'll recognize the neighborhood shapes. The parks and small streets layers are turned off because they are resource intensive to display in Inkscape, but they're there. Edit away ;) --Peter Talk 06:43, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- One day I'll figure out how to edit boundaries on these maps. Today isn't that day. When you get back, can you make the following revisions:
- Osborne Village:
Extend south in a small strip covering (boundaries one street east and west of) Osborne St only from Confusion Corner (present southern extent) to the St Vital Bridge (i.e. the river). There are some village-esque shops, restaurants and bars along the southern half of Osborne St worth including.Keep as is. There's only one or two places at Osborne & Jubilee that would be worth mentioning. No sense confounding the boundary.
- St. Boniface: Northern and western boundaries as is. Eastern boundary at Archibald St, southern boundary Carriere Ave extended to meet Archibald St. These boundaries define the true "French Quarter"—the rest is predominantly residential and industrial.
- Fun fact: In Winnipeg, the general rule is that streets run north/south and avenues run east/west—except in St. Boniface where it's the reverse. Notice that everything returns to normal, with some minor exceptions, outside of the boundaries I described above.
- West End: Northern boundary at Route 57 (Notre Dame Ave and Dublin Ave), western boundary at St. James St. Eastern and southern boundaries as is. The West End does include Polo Park.
- I might quibble about the division between Downtown, the Exchange and the Forks, but it's close enough, especially from the traveller's point of view.
- Osborne Village:
- Thanks! -- Alvanson (talk) 06:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- Changed my mind re: Osborne Village. -- Alvanson (talk) 20:01, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hold off on those changes above! I've started geocoding Winnipeg. Perhaps instead of the static map, we create a GPX track outlining the neighbourhoods on a slippy map? Dynamic maps are the way of the future, of course! Plus, this would kill two birds with one stone giving the article a map both of neighbourhoods and of attractions. What do you think? Should we use the dynamic map experimental templates on Winnipeg? I'll attempt a GPX track and see what I can do there. -- Alvanson (talk) 00:38, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello! You might be interested in this discussion about creating a new namespace for GPX (instance of using article mainspace), or moving the GPX files to Wikimedia Commons, or Wikidata. Cheers! Nicolas1981 (talk) 05:34, 16 August 2013 (UTC)