Wikivoyage talk:Search Expedition/Missing links from Wikipedia

Handling city districts

Suggestions on handling city districts where the organisation is different between Wikipedia and Wikivoyage? For example should we make a link in w:Neukölln to Neukölln which redirects to Berlin/South and so on for Steglitz, Zehlendorf, Tempelhof, Treptow and Köpenick.? --Traveler100 (talk) 11:27, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Would linking multiple suburbs on Wikipedia to the same district on Wikivoyage or creating redirects on WIkivoyage for each suburb be too much like spamming? For example create a redirect on Wikivoyage for each of the Wikipedia Neighborhoods of Baltimore to the Districts of Baltimore. --Traveler100 (talk) 07:37, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

How about creating a redirect on Wikivoyage for each borough mentioned on Wikipedia to the appropriate district article on Wikivoyage. Then on Wikipeida reference the borough which would then redirect on clicking. Would allow for any future district reorganisations. Could do this for cities such as Berlin, Munich, Chicago and so on. --Traveler100 (talk) 10:07, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

To align our article structure with some of the incoming links from Wikipedia I've created redirects in cases where I thought it made sense - for example: Dnipropetrovsk Oblast → Eastern Ukraine, Amer Fort → Jaipur, Psyri → Athens/Psiri. Having sensible redirects improves usability on Wikivoyage as long as they don't cause any organizational confusion and meet the criteria laid out in Wikivoyage:What is an article?, but the key is to be sure that we aren't trying to force a redirect just to allow for easier interwiki linking. For example, if Wikipedia has an article about a district that would span multiple Wikivoyage districts we are probably best off either using the parent article for the interwiki link or else leaving the interwiki link off altogether. -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:24, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

marking pages checked that do not have an equivalent Wikipedia page

How do we want to mark articles in the list that have been checked but do not have a corresponding page on Wikipedia? Save multiple people doing the same work. --Traveler100 (talk) 12:18, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

For now, if you make a note next to the article name in the list I'll try to ensure that I don't overwrite it when the list is regenerated. Longer term I'll need to figure out a less manual way of dealing with those - perhaps I could create a whitelist of articles that the script could ignore. -- Ryan • (talk) • 14:37, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

I've added a whitelist that can be used to track articles that should not be linked from Wikipedia, but please be sure to only include articles that really don't have any chance of being linked from Wikipedia. -- Ryan • (talk) • 05:49, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Wikivoyage links question

Minor question: I know that several of us have added the wikivoyage link in the "External links" section of many articles in Wikipedia. What I am now wondering is if this is really necessary as under "Other projects" section (left hand side) of many Wikipedia articles there is an existing link to wikivoyage? ... - Matroc (talk) 01:47, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

From an SEO standpoint the "Other projects" links should help us out, particularly since they are appearing across projects. From just the perspective of SEO the w:Template:Wikivoyage-style links that people have been adding may now be less valuable, but I suspect they will still help with SEO for two reasons: 1) not all articles are linked from Wikidata yet (see Special:UnconnectedPages), and 2) since the link pattern is "travel guide for [[Article name]]" it should theoretically signal Google that our link should get some weighting for "travel"-related searches. Beyond SEO, I think having prominent sister project links in the "External links" section of Wikipedia articles provides additional visibility to Wikivoyage and is likely to drive reader and editor traffic to this site - it might be my imagination, but I feel like there has been an uptick of articles being edited that seems to have some correlation to the links having been added to the corresponding Wikipedia article. -- Ryan • (talk) • 02:01, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification! - Would be interesting to see the stats in a month or two - Thanks -- Matroc (talk) 02:10, 28 February 2016 (UTC)