Talk:Berne
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Hi. Note that Disambiguation does not work the same way here that it does at Wikipedia. Although there is also a Canton Bern, we have two different articles for it, the Bernese Highlands and the Bernese Lowlands. This corresponds to the way the Swiss travel office divides up the country and so we've adopted it here as well. -- (WT-en) Mark 16:11, 4 Feb 2006 (EST)
Thanks for the information, i know that many things works not the same way as in Wikipedia, but i do live in Bern and cant understand the divides of the tourist office (ok its an office, its not logical).
The Canton of Bern has more to offer than lowland & highland.
To count Bienne & Bern in the same part is a bit strange for someone that live in the area (but at a small point understandable).
I was visiting the Site and found the List of Swiss cantons this made me belife the target is to add every canton the wikivoyage.
I am Sorry, if i did too mutch but it was logical.
--Philippt 01:20, 5. Feb 2006 (CET)
Guys, sorry but what the heck! I cannot edit this page anymore! It keeps hitting the spam filter even if I contribute a simple triviality like:
"Flying to Berne directly is the exception though. You're probably better advised to fly in to Switzerland through Zurich Airport and take a direct train to Berne (takes you 1h30 max), or alternatively Geneva Airport (roughly 3h by train). See below."
C'mon, what's going on here.... This is content that has relevance for a foreign traveler. I live here, and I don't think I know anyone who's ever landed on Belp.
- Somebody accidentally added " " to the spam blacklist. It's fixed now (or otherwise you couldn't even write the comment above!). (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:46, 15 August 2006 (EDT)
Bern/Berne
editThe article states that the official English spelling is Berne, yet the name of the article is Bern, and the text uses both spellings here and there. We need to decide for sure which to use and be consistent with it. Any opinions? (WT-en) Texugo 10:03, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
- I'd go for Berne for consistency. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:55, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
- I have renamed it to Berne and as far as possible changes all references to it to reflect the change. There was a lot of inconsitency, about half of references used Berne and the the other Bern. Should be a lot cleaner now. --(WT-en) Nick 12:03, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
The article says that Einstein's both special and the general theories of relativity were born here. I believe that this is not correct, since the general theory of relativity was only published in 1915, well after Einstein left Bern. Can anyone rectify? Thanks.
- I think it should be Bern, it's way more popular and it's what Wikipedia and English versions of official websites use. Jjtkk (talk) 08:00, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
- This really should be Bern, per Wikipedia, official tourist information sites for the city and the country, Tripadvisor, The Telegraph...--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:08, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- We don't have to follow Wikipedia, but there was a long discussion there with lots of evidence provided that concluded that "Bern" is the most common spelling in English. Let's use that discussion as a way of saving a lot of time for ourselves (even though we don't have to follow Wikipedia) so we can spend more time on more important stuff. Ground Zero (talk) 17:48, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- I'm surprised by that because English often follows French, rather than German or Italian spellings, even for cities in Italy and Germany (Milan, Rome, Venice, Cologne), and as someone who's read newspapers such as the New York Times since the 1970s, I always saw "Berne" datelines. However, I don't care which spelling we use here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:02, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia discussion suggests that Bern is standard in the US, and Berne more common in the UK, although Bern is used there, too. I expect this would come from the British picking up the French spelling, like for Cologne, while the large German population in the US would have swung the pendulum there towards Bern. Ground Zero (talk) 18:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- The German population in the U.S. was very large and distinct in the 19th and early 20th centuries. They've long since been assimilated and no longer really much of an "ethnic white" group. Yet I grew up seeing Berne, not Bern, in the U.S. press. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- My theory is wrong, then. Well, I tried. Ground Zero (talk) 19:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- The German population in the U.S. was very large and distinct in the 19th and early 20th centuries. They've long since been assimilated and no longer really much of an "ethnic white" group. Yet I grew up seeing Berne, not Bern, in the U.S. press. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia discussion suggests that Bern is standard in the US, and Berne more common in the UK, although Bern is used there, too. I expect this would come from the British picking up the French spelling, like for Cologne, while the large German population in the US would have swung the pendulum there towards Bern. Ground Zero (talk) 18:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- I'm surprised by that because English often follows French, rather than German or Italian spellings, even for cities in Italy and Germany (Milan, Rome, Venice, Cologne), and as someone who's read newspapers such as the New York Times since the 1970s, I always saw "Berne" datelines. However, I don't care which spelling we use here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:02, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- We don't have to follow Wikipedia, but there was a long discussion there with lots of evidence provided that concluded that "Bern" is the most common spelling in English. Let's use that discussion as a way of saving a lot of time for ourselves (even though we don't have to follow Wikipedia) so we can spend more time on more important stuff. Ground Zero (talk) 17:48, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- This really should be Bern, per Wikipedia, official tourist information sites for the city and the country, Tripadvisor, The Telegraph...--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:08, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- for the record, I spent two weeks in the city, speaking more German than French and little English, and let me tell you, "Berne" reads very weird (actually in Portuguese it's the name of a skin parasite, common in cattle and dogs around here). I support the name Bern. Ibaman (talk) 19:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Reviving this old discussion, but I too support this (but not the IP's unilateral changes). I don't think I've ever seen the second "e" used in my life. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 11:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- I support moving to Bern, after discussion and consensus. Ground Zero (talk) 12:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still surprised. I've always seen "Berne" in English-language publications. However, I won't stand in the way of a consensus. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- In the last Wikipedia discussion, there is a lot of evidence presented showing that both spellings are widely used. Ground Zero (talk) 15:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's a very long discussion! OK, no further objection from me. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- What makes the case for using Bern stronger for me is the name of the University of Bern (in English). SHB2000 (t | c | m) 09:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- There was a consensus here. Any objection to the proposed move? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- What makes the case for using Bern stronger for me is the name of the University of Bern (in English). SHB2000 (t | c | m) 09:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's a very long discussion! OK, no further objection from me. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- In the last Wikipedia discussion, there is a lot of evidence presented showing that both spellings are widely used. Ground Zero (talk) 15:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)