Talk:San Jose

Botched disambig for San Jose

Swept in from the pub

I created San Jose (disambiguation) because I though such a page hadn't existed. Turns out it did under San Jose now I can neither move it to where it belongs, nor raise the issue on the talk page, as that redirects to San Jose (California)'s talk page. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:45, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Hobbitschuster - I commented out the redirect - should be able to move now? Please verify San Jose (disambiguation) -- Matroc (talk) 02:28, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

When you get redirected, there should be a link to the redirect page at the top of the page, before the content. Why was there none on the talk page? I was able to get there and comment out the redirect by using the URL https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:San_Jose&redirect=no (that URL should have been in the non-existing link, cf other redirected pages). --LPfi (talk) 05:46, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

When a redirect has been edited, it cannot be deleted by non-administrators, and thus nothing can be moved by ordinary users to replace the redirect. Also otherwise only the target of the redirect can be moved there, so administrator intervention is needed when a move involves more than moving back and forth among alternative names. --LPfi (talk) 05:51, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm a kind of lost here, I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Do you want to delete "San Jose (disambiguation)"? If so, I don't think that's necessary. "San Jose" is a disambiguation page, so just redirect "San Jose (disambiguation)" there.

Or do you want to move "San Jose" to "San Jose (disambiguation)"? In that case: have an admin delete "San Jose (disambiguation)", and then move "San Jose" to "San Jose (disambiguation)". Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 06:00, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

It is no problem to have "San Jose" as the page with a list of destinations, but probably a good idea to have a redirect to it from San Jose (disambiguation). The disambig option in the page banner will then work. --Traveler100 (talk) 06:11, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

When "X" is a disambiguation page, it's probably best to always have "X (disambiguation)" redirect there. That way, people don't need to guess or check if there's a "(disambiguation)" in the title before linking there, and people won't think that not a disambiguation page when there really is. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 07:13, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

I think the disambiguation should always be under x(disambiguation). Hobbitschuster (talk) 09:20, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

That may be what you think but recommend discussing first, there are a few thousand pages like this. Also cutting pasting over a redirect all contant of another page is not the way to go. Page should be moved so that edit history is preserved. This may be a good idea but should have some agreement and be done correctly. --Traveler100 (talk) 16:15, 17 August 2017 (UTC)