Talk:Underground works

make difference to mining tourism more apparent

The way the intro is currently worded it sounds as if this here article also dealt with mines.. (which BTW could be linked) Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC) Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Noted , I reworded. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:08, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. On a related note, what do we do about tunnel that are only accessible in vehicle e.g. the Channel Tunnel? Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:12, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

There used to be a dedicated vistor's centre. I'd say major tunnels are worth listing, with a note about what you can actually see, by normal access. The Channel Tunnel isn't a good one for seeing much given the tight security. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:19, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Splitting India sections

This might need some expert assistance, as some of the 'caves' listed may be human created shrines and so forth, but be expansions on existing natural caves. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:08, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Scope

I guess this article is "miscellaneous" underground stuff, not mining and not natural caves? --Erik den yngre (talk) 14:58, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes. - Mining/quarrying was a separate because it was a large chunk of what would be here. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:10, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Good. I guess we need to limit this article to things that are of particular interest to tourists, not just any underground hole such road or railway tunnels. And it must be open for the general public in some way. --Erik den yngre (talk) 15:22, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Agreed, but some tunnels ARE notable. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:04, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Oh yes, Norway's longest tunnel is a kind of attraction. Erik den yngre (talk) 19:14, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

I've added "Electric Mountain" as it's one of the more prominent vistor centres for a UK hyrdo-power scheme ( There's another one in Scotland I've visited.)ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:40, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Speaking of which; do we have a travel topic about something like Industrial tourism ? Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:56, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Tyssedal power station and hydro power museum

Most major power stations in Norway are hidden in tunnels 200 or 1000 meters inside mountains, there hundreds of these, I guess some of the them are open for visitors, but I am not sure if they should count as "underground works" or as "industrial tourism". --Erik den yngre (talk) 19:14, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

We have Science tourism and a couple of articles like Industrial Britain, but Industrial tourism "itself" doesn't exist yet. Ghost towns sometimes also include abandoned factories etc. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:34, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

"D&D Cosplay"

This edit parenthetically mentions "D&D cosplay". Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you talking about LARP? To my knowledge D&D stands for "Dungeons and Dragons" a specific role playing game. "Cosplay" is a fancy Japanese Wasei-eigo derived term for "dressing up". LARP meanwhile means "live action role play" (without describing which particular game is meant). Did you confuse terms or am I the one that's confused? Hobbitschuster (talk) 00:01, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

I am as well, The listing is from London/South so if a decision is made to reword, I would favour rewording it there as well. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:39, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

I think this needs more eyeballs. Care to post in the pub? Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:28, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

I've removed the cosplay stuff from the listing here. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I suppose you could have nice cosplay time in those surroundings. It would also be an exciting environment for LARP, but it might be difficult to care for the security. So, somebody knows what happens there in the reality? Unless we know, the wording should be removed also from London/South. And I am also worried about the 8,000 years. I could not find that statement on the website and I suppose people here were not good at digging deep holes at the time of the pyramids. They might have had a quarry, but hardly any passageways into the rock. --LPfi (talk) 19:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Doesn't the mining article mention mines way older than that? Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:33, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Sort of, but at least in Understand it did not make clear that there would have been shafts and adits in the really old ones. I suspect the problems of water, and especially ventilation, were addressed much later, and that the early ones were open quarries. --LPfi (talk) 17:00, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia could be a bit clearer but this is what they say. Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:45, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Underground works...

Swept in from the pub

https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Underground_works#United_Kingdom

This needs some listing entries from the North and other parts of the UK, given the entries so far are rather London-centric ? (with the exception of the Williamson tunnels which I pulled from Liverpool ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:44, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

"D&D Cosplay" ?

Swept in from the pub

Bringing something from a talk page here for a wider set of opinions

Talk:Underground_works#"D&D_Cosplay"

Cosplay and LARP are different things? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:49, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, they are different.

LARP is Live Action Role Playing, a bit like other roleplaying games like D&D except that you actually act out what your characters do.

Cosplay involves dressing up as characters, often fictional heroes like Gandalf or Wonder Woman. Pashley (talk) 13:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

But both could be covered by a single article, at least to begin with, as there is certainly a lot of overlap, not least among amateurs. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Currently LARP is grouped with historical re-enactment, and that article is an outline at best :( ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:33, 3 January 2019 (UTC)