Talk:Winter sports in Australia

Football is a winter sport. Perhaps this article should be Snow sports in Australia. (WT-en) Nurg 05:14, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)

Redirect/Merge

This article doesn't really contain any more information than just a pointer to the ski fields and snow sports areas of Australia. This information could easily just be in the main Australia article, and I'm thinking of just redirecting this article, and putting the information there. Thoughts, objections, support anyone? --(WT-en) Inas 22:13, 13 May 2009 (EDT)

Rename to Winter in southeastern Australia?

I'd like to broaden the scope of this a bit more, and include a bit more non-skiing activities in this article. Another alternative would be to broaden the scope even further to Australia as a whole, as much of the north is only easily accessible during winter but then we'd have to mention snorkeling etc. I'd like opinions on whether we should rename this to Winter in southeastern Australia or Winter in Australia. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:04, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Or alternatively, merge the NSW and Victorian content to Australian Alps. The Tasmanian section is already mentioned in Tasmanian national parks#Skiing and we do not need duplication. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:06, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

VfD discussion

Winter sports in Australia

There are a few issues with this article.

1. The scope of the article seems to be only about snowsports, not rugby or Australian rules football, both of which are far more popular than snowsports. However, this can easily be fixed by renaming it to Snowsports in Australia
2. A list of ski resorts is more on the scope of an encyclopedia than a travel guide

I have been thinking for sometime to create an article called Winter in southeastern Australia, or Winter in New South Wales, ACT, Victoria and Tasmania, so if I do feel like creating it, I suppose this can be merged, but until then, it remains too encyclopedic. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:27, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

This doesn't look like a deletion request. Why is it here? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:50, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

It is a deletion request. I only vote to merge it if I feel like creating those topics, but I'm not very knowledgeable about it (so I probably won't create it), and that is why I want to delete this encyclopedic topic article. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:02, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

The listings for New South Wales are instructive for people who want to ski and could serve as examples for the other listings, so I'm reluctant to support deletion instead of merging the useful content somewhere. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:26, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps Kosciuszko National Park for NSW? (which can be done without using the article) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:45, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

It looks like the listings go beyond that park. Would merging some of the information to Snowy Mountains work? Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:43, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Which ones aren't in the park though? Alternatively, we could merge this entire thing into Australian Alps. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

The first 3 listings don't say they're in the park. If they are, yeah, that merge is fine. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:41, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I just noticed that the article doesn't say so (but the respective articles do). That would resolve NSW, Victoria and the ACT, while the two Tasmanian ski resorts are already mentioned in Tasmanian national parks#Skiing. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:22, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

It could be renamed to Skiing in Australia. As it stands, it doesn't even cover other sports played on snow and ice like snowboarding and ice skating. Gizza ^(roam) 00:04, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

@DaGizza Agree. A quick look on Wikipedia also shows that many Victorian destinations (plus the one in Country ACT) are missing as the article currently stands. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:29, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Made a start to Kosciuszko National Park#Skiing. Now just the Victorian ones left. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

• Keep I think this article is useful as it is. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 10:47, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

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It's more than 14 days now, but there isn't one agreed solution here. I disagree it's useful as a list of ski resorts are better found on Wikipedia, especially when many are missing. Based on this discussion, there are four options:

• Keep and do nothing about it
• Merge to Australian Alps
• Rename to Skiing in Australia as per DaGizza's suggestion
• Delete.

I personally favour merging to Australian Alps, as it's easier for information to be in one place rather than scattered across multiple articles. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:21, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Merging doesn't require a consensus here; instead, this thread should be closed as a keep and then you should ask for a consensus on the article's talk page to do the merge and redirect. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:02, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Result: Not deleted. What else to do to the article can be discussed further on its talk page. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:15, 24 May 2022 (UTC)