Talk:From Istanbul to Cairo
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editHello, can someone add some info regarding actually walking this route? Or, even a suggested route for walking? —The preceding comment was added by 69.39.103.27 (talk • contribs)
Another personal itinerary of the type which we are to avoid. It has long been tagged with {{merge}}, but there is not really much of anything to merge that isn't already covered in the main articles. Thus, there is no reason to keep this for attribution since nothing has been merged, and it's not a reasonable search term, so a redirect is not really appropriate.
- Delete - Texugo (talk) 15:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Look at the Understand section. This is not a personal itinerary but a recognized route, and the article is at Usable status. The itinerary is not reasonable right now, as long as Syria is at war, but I see no compelling reason to delete the article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:46, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- I don't believe it is a single recognized route, but rather a recognized phenomenon that people have historically often passed between the two cities one way or another, which I don't think is really the same thing. If you look at the Go section, you can see that right from the beginning, no specific path is intended — it gives you like a dozen possible places to cross the Syrian border. Texugo (talk) 19:04, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- I take your point but would then counter that neither is the Silk Road only one route, and fortunately, no-one is suggesting deleting that article. How does it serve the traveler to delete this article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I was taking the fact that this has already been tagged for merging for two years as enough of a sign that we'd decided this shouldn't be its own article and was nominating it here in an attempt to clean up things which had become permanent fixtures of Category:Not an article. Anyway, the Silk Road is a famous, historical, established collection of established routes in a way that this appears not to be. If there is a specific set of routes connoted here, we need to express them. If there is not, it just seems like we're telling people to "go by bus from Istanbul to the place of your choice in the next country, and then from there to somewhere in the next country, and then go by bus from wherever that is until you get to Cairo. That does not serve the traveller; it's just a waste of space. Texugo (talk) 20:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- It's at least somewhat more specific than that. It gives several routes from Istanbul to Aleppo, but all of them start in Istanbul and go to Aleppo. After that, there is a series of listed, linked locations. It seems to me that it's sufficient to help someone plan a trip - when the war is over and the route is again reasonably safe. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:51, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I was taking the fact that this has already been tagged for merging for two years as enough of a sign that we'd decided this shouldn't be its own article and was nominating it here in an attempt to clean up things which had become permanent fixtures of Category:Not an article. Anyway, the Silk Road is a famous, historical, established collection of established routes in a way that this appears not to be. If there is a specific set of routes connoted here, we need to express them. If there is not, it just seems like we're telling people to "go by bus from Istanbul to the place of your choice in the next country, and then from there to somewhere in the next country, and then go by bus from wherever that is until you get to Cairo. That does not serve the traveller; it's just a waste of space. Texugo (talk) 20:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- I take your point but would then counter that neither is the Silk Road only one route, and fortunately, no-one is suggesting deleting that article. How does it serve the traveler to delete this article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- I don't believe it is a single recognized route, but rather a recognized phenomenon that people have historically often passed between the two cities one way or another, which I don't think is really the same thing. If you look at the Go section, you can see that right from the beginning, no specific path is intended — it gives you like a dozen possible places to cross the Syrian border. Texugo (talk) 19:04, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
[undent] Request for comments Hi, everyone. Please have a look at this article and give an opinion, lest it be deleted because there are only two people taking part in this discussion, and 50% in favor of deletion is sufficient to deny a consensus to keep. If a majority think this article is worthless, fine, but it would be a shame for an(other) article to be deleted because of the opposition of a single person. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:43, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- I don't object to having this route, but it needs a lot more details to be usable. How long does the itinerary take? As it is "not practical to pre-order bus or train tickets online", I think that the article needs to have full details e.g. "the #22 bus takes 6 hours and leaves at 9am and 2pm and costs ABC123". If it is to be kept, then it should be 'outline', and some warnings should be added. AlasdairW (talk) 20:50, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep and get rid of the merge tag, since that is rather silly. It does need work. Any volunteers? Pashley (talk) 18:23, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- We also have Cairo to Jerusalem by bus which is currently tagged for merging to Cairo. I'd say merge & redirect it to this article instead, and put links at Cairo#Go next and Jerusalem#Go next. Pashley (talk) 18:28, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - I agree that the article's content has definite merit. --Nick talk 19:58, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Result: Kept - AndreCarrotflower (talk) 19:08, 28 April 2014 (UTC)