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Thanks for joining the photo hunt! --Inas (talk) 03:09, 17 January 2013 (UTC)#Reply
Thanks very much - it's great fun and I like a challenge! --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 11:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Pretty edit

pretty.. --Inas (talk) 02:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks very much! I'm just about to post a link to the Main Page discussion - I'll see what other people think too!

Main page edit

  The Original Barnstar
Amazing work. Revolutionary really :-) I would have given you the graphic design barnstar but could not find it here. Travel Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:46, 23 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks very much! It's very kind of you and I really appreciate it! --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 10:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

CSS edit

Hi, I noticed you were editing your user/common.css file. You probably know that it is a per user preferences file so that only you will see the effects of that. I also noticed that you were commenting? out some of your lines there with "//". I think that works in PHP but not in this CSS page. I think I have found it instead breaks your css by making it malformed. I think you will find it is the same as putting any nonsense there, such as "xx" or "--" and is interpreted as breakage, not comment. I think you want to stick to /*this*/ kind of comment marker in your css here. I'm not 100% sure about this but that is what I do just to avoid breakage. Hope this helps. I like the magazine style main page! Let's find a way to do it! :-) Rogerhc (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Thanks very much! It's really kind of you to take a look! I'll get rid of the slashes and have another go today. Thanks for your kind words - hopefully it'll work in the end! :-) --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 10:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Light text on light background edit

Hi Nicholas, I don't know if this can be done with CSS or not but it occurred to me that if it can, then one way to get light text to stand out on light patches of photos might be to style the text's background as transparent or opacity 50% or something and set it to a dark color. http://www.w3.org/wiki/CSS3/Color/opacity seems to set the opacity of a whole element, not just its background. So maybe this would be hard to do. I don't know--I'm quite the novice with this stuff, myself. Just wanted to pass this idea to you in case there is a way to do it. I've been off line a couple days; you have made nice progress! Cheers! :-) Rogerhc (talk) 21:53, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Thanks very much for your suggestion! That does look very interesting! I too am a complete novice with CSS, but it's useful to know that, in future, if we use a light coloured picture we can still put white text on top! Thanks! :) --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 22:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Bali banner edit

Hey, is it just me, or did the colors get a little messed up when you upped the contrast: File:Bali banner2.png vs File:Bali banner3.png? The light too—the sky just looks like a dim haze in #3. --Peter Talk 21:55, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yeah I think you're right - I'm still not happy with it. I think I overdid it! What do you make of this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sanur_Beach_Panorama_Hariadhi_WVBanner.png ?
I just upped the contrast myself on #2—let me know what you think (you might have to refresh). I looked at the Sanur Beach photo too, but I don't think it's the island's prettiest. I'd really like to have one that shows the beautiful ocean views with a bit of culture in it too, but haven't found one that's suitable. Something sort of like this would be great, but the photo has issues, and isn't suitable for our banner format. --Peter Talk 22:03, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
By the way, I think I have a good one for Niamey too, before you start work on the next OtBP ;) --Peter Talk 22:04, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I agree, I think if this new page does go ahead an Expedition to find glossy, big photos would be a good thing to have. I think the contrast with #2 looks really good now - I only changed it to let the text show up on top; I'm sorry I went a bit overboard! And that's excellent news about OtBP - thanks very much! :)
Had one final play - what do you make of this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bali_banner2.1.png I've just upped the blue and played with the levels a little bit to make the word 'Bali' stand out more clearly against the cloud. Perhaps if this does get implemented we need to write a set of guidelines on what makes a good banner? Thanks for all your help! :)
I'm still concerned that the colors look messed up, and the sky and mountains have become hard to distinguish through the blue haze. Your concern is that the text doesn't show up well enough, right? Maybe we should go with a different image, and I have a few ideas. Is white text a necessity, do you think? --Peter Talk 22:36, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, that's my only qualm - maybe another image would be better? If you have some ideas that would be great! I don't think white text is a necessity - grey or black could also work - I just think it would look better if it were consistent in all the images.--Nicholasjf21 (talk) 22:42, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
OK, I think this should do it: File:Bali banner 4.png. Also, be careful with the attribution info—none of these images are my own work! --Peter Talk 22:47, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Fantastic, that looks great! And I will be in future - I'm not very good when doing things at speed! --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 22:49, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Earth night banner edit

I've uploaded a new, slimmer version at File:Flat earth night banner2.png. Would you like help generating the coordinates? Do you have to generate coordinates for each px? Or is there a way to adjust them without redoing? --Peter Talk 03:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Well, this is the weird thing: if you use the original sized image, it generates co-ordinates that somehow appear to work for every size. As a result I did try consolidating them all, but it then stopped working - very odd! Basically we just need one set of co-ordinates based off the original copied into every size. I'll redo them when I get back from work. If you'd be prepared to lend a hand, I'd be very grateful! :)--Nicholasjf21 (talk) 13:36, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Would it be worth converting the images to JPG beforehand?--Nicholasjf21 (talk) 13:44, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply


I made a template that could become Template:Otbpbanner in my sandbox, and it worked fine at first, but after switching from Windows to Linux, the text no longer respects the margins followed by the images. Do you have any idea why? I pasted in code directly from Main Page New for the Staraya Russa banner at User:Peterfitzgerald/Banners, and it has the same problem. --Peter Talk 05:12, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

I'm afraid I don't really know why that would happen... I'll take a look!--Nicholasjf21 (talk) 09:16, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think it might be perhaps that the top banner does weird and wonderful things to the formatting of the others, but hopefully this prevent us from altering the images in future...? Sorry this isn't much help! I'll keep looking! --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 20:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Too much time on my hands... (and thank you!) edit

Swept in from the pub

Not quite sure where this should go (perhaps my PC's Recycle Bin!), but here's a very poor pictorial representation of the Wikivoyage community pages thus far. Plainly, I'm channelling my inner 5-year-old! In future, I'll keep my attentions focussed on the new Main Page - I promise!

I would just like to take this opportunity however to say thanks to everyone on here who's made my first few weeks on here very enjoyable. You've all been extremely welcoming and it's been very exciting to be part of a project that's evolving and growing so rapidly, but still maintains a friendly heart and hub of great people. I can only hope that all the other new people who've arrived in this current influx can feel as welcomed as I have. Congratulations on a very successful launch; now let's make WV even better! :) --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 01:40, 25 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

This is pretty awesome, by the way. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. Cheers! Texugo (talk) 23:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Nicholasjf21, you've been a valuable addition to our community and I hope to see more, much more, from you in the future. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:01, 26 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thaat's very kind of you; thank you very much! It's a been a pleasure to join this community. --Nick (talk) 11:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sky portal edit

Hi Nick, I tried copying User:Nicholasjf21/Portal into m:Www.wikivoyage.org template/temp sky background for further development but when I click on "Preview HTML" (in drop down menu next to Search box on that page) it does not display right. Any idea where I went wrong? --Rogerhc (talk) 00:25, 19 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Oh, thanks for updating the HTML! It works now! Cool, maybe I can help there now. --Rogerhc (talk) 00:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Small note: all Wikimedia URLs/URIs on that page should use //example.org instead of http://example.org so that it works in HTTPS as well. PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:32, 19 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
m:Www.wikivoyage.org template/temp sky background has progressed. I put all the required CSS into the page so that we can edit it, and removed some unneeded CSS, and commented out the link to the "gadget" CSS because us non-admins can't edit that anyway. How does it look, Nick? (okay to reply on it's talk page) (and thank you PiRSquared17 for great help, and the URLs are all conformant with //example.org form) --Rogerhc (talk) 05:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

text-shadow CSS edit

Try this:

.banner-box {
      text-shadow: black 0.3em 0.3em 1em, black -0.1em -0.1em 1em;

I tried it in my User:Rogerhc/common.css just now and like how it shows the white text on the banners on Main Page New. The comma separates two shadow definitions. By doing two, one positive and one negative, we get a shadow on both sides of the letters. The third em value in each shadow definition specifies how far out to blur the shadow. --Rogerhc (talk) 01:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks very much Roger!! I'm not very good at coding if I'm honest, so thanks very much for your help - it's greatly appreciated! :) --Nick (talk) 01:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Barncompass edit

  The Wikivoyage Barncompass
Nick, you did great job introducing the Barncompass. Danapit (talk) 07:03, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Damn, beat me to it! :P On another note, not sure that we should be totally abolishing barnstars. Maybe some people prefer barnstars over the new system, and there's no real reason to deny them that. Also, some barnstars, as you can see at the top of this page, were given as barnstars, and changing them to barncompasses is inaccurate and messing with history. JamesA >talk 08:04, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Haha! Thanks very much to both of you! I'll change the original barnstar template back. The only reason I hadn't left any other awards was that, when I spoke with Peter, we agreed that it might be best to keep things simple and just have 1, but it might be worth having a discussion and seeing what the community thinks on that topic: I don't really mind either way. :) --Nick (talk) 10:14, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hey Nick, it seems you're online right now, so could you enter the WV:IRC for a quick chat? Cheers, JamesA >talk 01:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Re:Tourism Bureau Response edit

That's great you got a response from such a significant city! As for what we should tell them to do, I'm actually not completely sure. I'm on a little bit of a hiatus from this project at the moment, so can't offer much brainstorming power. However, I think a loose template to follow would be to request an informal partnership in improving the Manchester article with up-to-date listings, new prose, photos, districtifying if needbe, etc. Then we could potentially ask for a small link to be added to the footer of their website.

They've put us in a difficult spot by asking for the number of pageviews. When we flaunt the project, we are really talking about its potential viewership and not the current. As you can see, sometimes the views of the Manchester page is dipping as low as 8 people a day, which is shocking. That site also appears to use shoddy methods, as sometimes when I type in articles, it puts the page much higher than I'd ever expect and some days are showing up as 0 (see Qatar). Anyway, I'd just mention in passing in your response that the Wikimedia Foundation is still readying an official tool to view individual page views. But compare the stats on Alexa, where Wikivoyage ranks 7,550th ([1]) and Visit Manchester ranks 274,117th ([2]) worldwide. All the best, JamesA >talk 10:27, 11 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks very much! That's great- I'll send something like that to them! --Nick (talk) 10:42, 11 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Passport Stamps edit

Swept in from the pub


Slightly odd question:

I made these in a (very!) idle moment - any ideas as to what I could do with them? --Nick (talk) 19:32, 12 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Get the WMF to sell baggage stickers/something else using these images (m:Merchandise)? Or just put it on your userpage. ;) PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:54, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
That's a great idea, but I've already suggested it on the talk page there. It's definitely a missed opportunity if they don't do it, but I don't think anyone's really bothering with expanding the merchandise business at the current time. JamesA >talk 03:04, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Merchandise would be a great way to go - it seems a wasted opportunity not to create some travel-oriented things people can buy! --Nick (talk) 10:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think I might add the EN WV stamp to my user and talk page. Curtaintoad (user · talk · contribs) 10:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
You can use the template {{stamp}} for that. :) --Nick (talk) 10:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
I will do that instead. Curtaintoad (user · talk · contribs) 10:29, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Nicholasjf21; I think it looks better with the template. By the way, are there '''{{stamp}}''' templates on other wikis (or maybe I can search it.)? Curtaintoad (user · talk · contribs) 10:36, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Happy to help! I'm not sure to be honest, as I created the one here, but it might be worth a search! --Nick (talk) 10:54, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I did search "Template:Stamp" on other WM Foundation sites, but I don't think I can see any templates similar. Maybe you can create other {{stamp}} templates for other stamp projects on other WM Projects -- upload images on WM Commons [3] and then maybe you can discuss this more on MetaWiki [4]. Curtaintoad (user · talk · contribs) 11:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Very late response :) But we're definitely looking at expanding the merch options (though you're right we're going slow for many reasons as we figure out the right direction) and actually have a bunch of new ones that will be looking for the next 3-4 weeks. One of those will almost certainly be a Wikivoyage luggage tag though I really like the stamps! I'll look into the options :) Jalexander (talk) 10:04, 2 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

New Main Page edit

Hello Nicholasjf21; I am just letting you know that I am trying to create another new main page on my sandbox in my userspace (I hope you like the new main page when it comes out). The rest of this message is a bit complicated, sorry, but I will try my best. Thanks. Curtaintoad (user · talk · contribs) 07:21, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Nicholasjf21. You have new messages at Curtaintoad's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

M5 motorway edit

In order to maintain the contributor history I've deleted the copy of User:Nicholasjf21/M5 Motorway‎ that you previously created and moved the existing article to the same location. If we ever do restore the article this will ensure that contributors are credited in accordance with the CC-SA license. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! I've no real purpose for it, but I'm a hoarder! :) --Nick (talk) 21:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi - HTML validator edit

How does this look? See the pub. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:35, 2 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

That's great! Thanks very much! --Nick (talk) 20:44, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply


Hi. Thanks for trying one, but I really don't like the horizontal Empire State Building. Perhaps we should discuss banner images at Talk:New York City.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, to be honest, I don't either! It was an experiment that didn't really work... I'll make a topic on the discussion page now. --Nick (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply


Nick, I appreciate your enthusiasm for your new logo idea, but I really think it would have been best to wait a day or two until WMF got the new contest discussion going and had a chance to explain to the community what's going on. LtPowers (talk) 00:19, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

That's absolutely fine, yes! I only dived in because I was concerned about the time constraints of which you spoke, but if a formal contest is what we need then I'm happy to wait for that. Is it true that there's a problem with the current logo? --Nick talk 00:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Reportedly, yes. I apologize if I wasn't clear before. LtPowers (talk) 01:20, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
No need to apologise - that's fine! Sorry if I was a bit over keen! --Nick talk 01:22, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Wikivoyage Barncompass edit

  The Wikivoyage Barncompass
Hello Nicholasjf21, so far your work on this project to us has been really appreciated—you have been creating new logos, making a new design for a main page, adding banners to cities and notable places, adding stamps, adding new expeditions, improving, writing pages and adding other things. Because you have done all that work since January 2013, I think you have been identified as one of the most active Wikivoyagers in this site. So you deserve this barncompass. You could possibly be an administrator (nomination page) if you keep this hark good work up. Please keep it up.

curtaintoad | chat me! 10:58, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks very much! That's very kind of you! :) --Nick talk 11:27, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, very well deserved. Keep up the great work! JamesA >talk 11:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks James! :) --Nick talk 11:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Inverse logo? edit

Hey Nick. Thanks for covering Wikiviajes too. I was wondering if you'd be willing to make a second mockup that is the inverse of the one you made: a blue circle outline, white background, with the shapes in blue....Texugo (talk) 16:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

You're very welcome! I'll have a go at that now! --Nick talk 16:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Here you go! My only worry with it might be that, as it's now predominantly white, it might look a little blank and/or not work at smaller sizes, but it is a good idea and definitely worth trying! --Nick talk 16:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Logo edit

Heads up, I've vectorized your logo icon. Please let me know if there's anything additional you'd like help with—I preserved some pretty slight asymmetries you had already in your icon (particularly the curvature of the long sides of the triangle), but if those weren't purposeful and you'd prefer any smoother curves, that would be easy to do. --Peter Talk 23:17, 5 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you so much! That's truly fantastic! :) I hadn't actually noticed any asymmetries - whoops! I'm more than happy to lose them unless you think they add anything? If you'd be prepared to fix them I would be very very grateful!
What do you think of it now? If you have any other ideas, please do let me know: I'm more than happy for this to be a 'team effort'. :) :--Nick talk 23:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Pagebanner template edit

If the pagebanner template has doesn't work properly with images less than 1800 pixels wide, it probably should say so in the documentation. --Footwarrior (talk) 22:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

You're right - I've changed it accordingly. :) --Nick talk 22:42, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Manchester Airport edit

I do not quite appreciate your reverting my edits without discussion. Kindest, PrinceGloria (talk) 04:11, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I've not reverted any of your edits, but have manually changed a few of them back to how they were before: I didn't do this lightly. I just felt that, in some places, your copy-editing had removed a little of the spirit of the article, when humour and flair are welcomed here. Also, I wasn't quite sure about the changes you made to the first paragraph as most of the information regarding the airport's specific size and rank was already present in the Understand section.
I do, however, apologise if you believed these edits to be in bad faith. I'm certainly not trying to claim ownership over any article on here and you are more than welcome to edit Manchester Airport as many times as you want and revert all my edits from yesterday. I simply felt that the copy-editing process had removed some of the article's spirit unnecessarily, but I can obviously understand if you don't agree.
If I had planned to revert your changes I would of course have spoken with you first. Instead, as you can see from the edit history, I did edited some of your changes in bits. However, I'm sorry if I was a bit overzealous with it: in retrospect, I should have spoken to you first. Unfortunately, editing at 1 in the morning can mess up one's mind!
Either way, I'm truly sorry if I have offended you and hope that I haven't done any damage to the work that we have done together on here: we co-operate well and it would be a shame to lose that. If there's anything I can do to make it up to you, please let me know. :) --Nick talk 06:59, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I absolutely believe in your good faith, but I guess either with strictly reverting or with editing, we might want to discuss it when the result is basically the same - reverting the edits made. Otherwise, I consider any edit to an article as adding value and one should plunge forward.
I believe we have quite opposing views as to the spirit, humour and flair of this article. I believe that traveller comes first, and entertainment and our desire to share the finer bits of our writing second. In particular, I believe this article has a lead that is too short and not quite informative, while being slightly misleading - while MAN is 21st in Europe by passenger traffic, calling it one of "Europe's largest" somehow makes it seem in line with Heathrow, Frankfurt, CDG or AMS. I believe it is better to explain its role in more detail in the lead and why it has its own article.
That said, I am not entirely sure if we actually need an article on MAN, as CPH, Gardermoen, ARL, BRU or Malpensa see just as much passenger traffic and even more intercontinental connections, yet they are doing mightily fine being entirely described in their metropole's articles. PrinceGloria (talk) 07:23, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for responding! Once again, I apologise for not discussing this with you first - it was a mistake on my part.
I think you're probably right that we do disagree on the importance of flair here. It is perfectly possible that I've been blinded by my own brilliance (haha) and perhaps can't see that, for an unfamiliar traveller, it might not make much sense! Perhaps it's worth asking for a third opinion on this issue.
Manchester was one of the first airports to receive its own article and is considerably larger than some airports already featured. I also think it now has too much content to be remerged with Manchester, however, if you feel this is an important issue, please feel free to put it up for discussion on the expedition page.
Sorry again for not consulting you about my changes first; it won't happen again! :) --Nick talk 07:39, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
I shall, but which airport specifically are considerably smaller than Manchester and featured? PrinceGloria (talk) 07:47, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Stansted, Gimhae and (I think) Melbourne are all smaller. :) --Nick talk 08:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • MAN - 19M passengers (2012)
  • MEL - 26M (2011)
  • STN - 17.5M (2012)
  • PUS - 8.75M (2011)
So, only Gimhae is "significantly smaller". That said, I really don't know why we need an article on Stansted or Gimhae either. PrinceGloria (talk) 10:00, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Fair enough, but if you look at the criteria for airports, they were altered so that more airports like Manchester could be catered for. MAN fits the criteria and, whilst not the largest airport in the world, there is too much content for it to fit comfortably on the Manchester page (at least in my opinion). --Nick talk 10:03, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

I just wanted to clarify two points of practice here particular to Wikivoyage. Per Wikivoyage:Consensus#Status quo bias, the procedure is to undo disputed changes, and then discuss—not to consult before reverting. Also, per Wikivoyage:Tone, lively writing cannot be toned down—it may only be replaced by writing just as lively or moreso. --Peter Talk 19:27, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you Peter. I did not know about the first one, I still consider it better to at least leave reasons for reverting in the edit summary, if not contact an editor one knows on their talk page and explain why they believed the reverted edits were inappropriate. I know this is not Wikipedia, but perhaps I am still too accustomed to Wikipedia best practice. As with travelling, participating in this community will probably harden me over time.
As concerns the second one, let me explain my concerns are not about the lively tone in general, but the fact that verbosity (of which I am the number one perpetrator, I duly admit) or slightly irrelevant interjections can distract a reader from the core content of the article and break up a train of thought. Out of the guidelines listed in the page you like to, I believe being concise and to the point is the paramount one. That said, whenever something can be written in an enjoyable, lively and even humorous way, while still being as concise and to the point, it is obviously the best to do so.
And my apologies to Nicholas for taking over his talk page. PrinceGloria (talk) 20:06, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for clearing that up Peter! :)
I am, however, sorry if it appeared a bit abrupt PrinceGloria; I don't want anyone to feel like I don't value their contributions. If I am sometimes a little... exuberant in my use of English, I will try to make sure that, in future, it doesn't get in the way of actual content. And there's no need to apologise - getting all these emails has made me feel very popular! :D --Nick talk 20:27, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Page title edit

What about the JS patch? Anything is moving?

I'm not really sure what's happening with that at present. I'm all for it being implemented ASAP, but there doesn't seem to have been a huge response on Wikivoyage talk:Banner Expedition. It might be worth asking there as well, to see if there are any outstanding issues. It would be good to get it done soon as I'm not a fan of double titles! --Nick talk 08:27, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Maybe you know the involved people better than me; try to contact them in order to give their opinion on that thread. --Andyrom75 (talk) 22:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Will do! :) I'll see what I can do. --Nick talk 22:45, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Good! :-) Regarding "opinions" I don't know if you may be interested on discussion article contents too, but in the affirmative case, I'd like to invite you (and involve people) to give an opinion to Talk:Ireland. I've asked also in Wikivoyage:Requests for comment but only one person has shown. --Andyrom75 (talk) 22:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the invitation - I'll take a look now! I hadn't noticed it on the RFC page. :) --Nick talk 22:50, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for accepting, I'll wait for your comment :-) In the meanwhile, can you tell me all the policy/guideline pages related to the Pagebanner? I'd like to import&translate them in it:voy. --Andyrom75 (talk) 05:59, 19 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yep - The info here and here should be all you need to give a clear overview of what's required. Hope this helps! :) --Nick talk 13:45, 19 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the info. I've already imported the second one and for the first one I'd like to create the whole expedition section, so it would take more time.
I've answered you in the Ireland discussion. Give me you feedback.
Nothing seems to happen on the pagetitle. Who are the decision maker on that?
--Andyrom75 (talk) 07:51, 21 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Pagebanner JS patch has been implemented! Do you have the latest IE9? I'd like to test it as well (I have only IE8 and I can't upgrade it). And if you have the opportunity please check Talk:Ireland. Thanks, --Andyrom75 (talk) 06:37, 25 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
I've done with the test (thanks anyway), now I just need your clarification on Ireland. --Andyrom75 (talk) 18:45, 27 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Really sorry for missing your message! It's all been a bit hectic here! If I can help at all with the tests, just let me know! I'll have a look at Ireland now. :) --Nick talk 18:49, 27 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Tour agency edit

Hey, I promise I will help with the Tour Agency, as soon as I get a spare couple of hours to give it proper thought ;) --Peter Talk 07:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks very much! It's good to hear from you! Sorry if my post on your page in response to Tony did more harm than good, I just wanted to refute his ridiculous claims! :) --Nick talk 09:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

More barncompasses edit

Just a note to thank you for your great work on Barncompasses. You did a fantastic job Nick. Recently, we've got WikiLove extension enabled on this wiki, so I think we probably should've few more customised travel-theme barncompasses such as admin's barncompass, anti-vandalism, graphic designer's, editor's barncompass etc. --Saqib (talk) 19:33, 25 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks very much! I'm happy to make some more if that's what people want! :) --Nick talk 19:57, 25 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Social media, July Summit edit

Hey Nick, Danapit mentioned that it might be nice to add something about the social media developments we have made in recent months at meta:Wikivoyage/Summit#July 2013. You are a lot more knowledgeable than I am on these matters—would you mind adding a quick overview of what we've been up to? Thanks! --Peter Talk 21:17, 9 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

I'd be happy to! Thanks! --Nick talk 21:19, 9 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Nichministrator edit

The next time you log on you may behold the awesome shininess of your new buttons. See Wikivoyage:Administrator's handbook for guidelines on using the amazing power of the "rollback" button or the awesome capabilities of the "delete" button. If you have questions please ask. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:33, 24 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Congrats from Karachi, I'm sure you'll make a wonderful addition to the team. --Saqib (talk) 23:37, 24 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you so much! :) I really appreciate being given the mighty mop and bucket! -Nick talk 02:09, 25 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Congratulations, Nick. ~ curtaintoad ~~ talk ~ 08:22, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Disappointing logo result edit

My commiserations.

Your design was my favourite. By far the best at icon size and timeless. Thanks for all the effort you put into designing it; the result just proves what I've known for more than 7 years here: this community is "graphically challenged". --W. Franke-mailtalk 21:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very much for your kind words - they mean a lot! :) I am a bit disappointed, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens with the remaining choices. --Nick talk 21:17, 11 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Banners edit

I just want to give a heads up for the great banners you've put on British destinations! Some really great ones among them. Globe-trotter (talk) 21:20, 13 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks very much! That's very kind of you! Sorry for being a bit quick to change the Italy banner yesterday - I was a bit too far in the "zone"! The ones I've put on aren't all amazing, but I don't like seeing grey at the top of every page, so I'm trying to cover as many as possible! --Nick talk 21:22, 13 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

New Main Page Design edit

Hi Nick - I'm not sure what you meant by your question about the banner displaying normal links. What did you have in mind?

For the logo, a couple of things you could try are:

  • put the logo and search box inside the div that holds the image
  • for the logo and search box, specify a % with the top style (e.g., top:35% for the logo and top:70% for the search box) - that way the placement scales with the image size (although the size of the logo doesn't scale)
  • check the number of <div> tags versus </div>, I think more sections are closed than opened

After looking at it a bit more, I wonder if the logo is too prominent. What do you think of making the logo smaller and putting it to the left of the search box and maybe making the search box a little bigger? Another benefit to a smaller logo is, since it doesn't scale the same way the main image does, it wouldn't overpower the picture on small screens.

BTW - I'm still quite busy outside of WV, so my response times could be quite slow! Cheers -Shaundd (talk) 06:33, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

That's great! Thanks very much for your help! I do like the idea of a smaller logo to the left of the search box: I'll have a play and see what I can do. By normal links I meant whether the banner could be used to display links to the pages themselves, rather than to their location on the page (i.e. not acting as the TOC). I did have a go, but wasn't too successful! :) --Nick talk 14:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Bolton edit

Hey, Nick. I just noticed the odd way you handled Bolton. Until recently, that was a dab page, which you overwrote with the contents of Bolton (England), yes? Can I ask why you did it that way instead of the usual method of moving Bolton to Bolton (disambiguation) and then Bolton (England) to Bolton? Doing it that way would have made the edit history much more clear and preserved attribution. (There's also the question of whether the English town meets our primary-topic guideline, but that's a different discussion.) LtPowers (talk) 17:13, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Sorry about that, the way I did it was rather odd and I only really realised that that was the case last night. I've been playing with that page since I first arrived at WV, so some of the things on it are a bit... unorthodox; it shows my inexperience I suppose! How should I go about fixing it? Is it too late to do it without losing bits? In terms of primary topic, the English town is far bigger than any of the others, features on the Wikivoyage:World_cities page and its article has the most content, however, if you don't agree that it deserves most prominence, I don't mind putting it all back as it was before and drawing a line under the mess I made. Thanks for the heads up! --Nick talk 17:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
It's a tricky thing; I was surprised to see it was the primary topic even on Wikipedia. But of course, our criteria are a bit more strict. It'd have to be a question for the wider community. As for fixing it up, it is possible, but could be tricky. Mostly I was checking to see if there was a compelling reason to do it as you did, and as a gentle reminder to avoid it in the future. =) LtPowers (talk) 20:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
I have made a bit of a mess there, but I'll attempt to clean it up as much as I can! I'll make sure not to do it again - thanks for telling me the right way to do these things! :) --Nick talk 20:41, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

A great lead paragraph for England and "bucolic epithet" edit

Hi Nick. I really love your new 'spicing up' of the lead paragraph for England. Its beautifully written and sums the country up perfectly. My only concern is that while "bucolic epithet" sounds good, might it be a couple of flowery words too far? While by no means a linguistic expert, I consider myself to be quite an intelligent guy with a good grasp of the English language and had to look up both words for their meanings. My feeling is that would be the reaction of our readers, many of whom don't speak English as a first language. I wonder what your thoughts on this are?

Anyway, great job! --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:59, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks very much! I think you're right about 'bucolic epithet' though - I got a little carried away there! "Land of Hope and Glory" was playing in my head! :) I've changed it now - is that any better? --Nick talk 16:40, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Re: 'Land of hope and glory', I had a feeling it might have been! It was certainly playing in my head as I read it...
Yeah, I think that new change is a lot better. You might have noticed I've just tweaked it slightly so it's crystal clear that the sentence is directly referring to the phrase 'green and pleasant land', but that was really just cosmetic. Anyways, enjoy what's left of the weekend and if you live in Britain hope that the summer weather returns for one last lap of honour before autumn. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:01, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! I am a Briton (near Manchester) and, in fact, like you, I'm a 19-year-old student too! You're definitely right to change the 'its' to 'this' - hopefully it's not quite so overly flowery now! Enjoy your weekend too and here's hoping that we do get a bit of sun sooner rather than later! :) --Nick talk 19:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ah, a proper northerner! Unlike me, a 'southern English nancy' (to my Welsh dad and Scouse mum's eternal shame!) who's somehow found himself living in a freezing industrial city in Yorkshire and loving every minute of it.
And cool, another student, we get everywhere... What do you study? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:49, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'm glad you're having a great time in Sheffield; I've had my fair share of freezing industrial cities! I'm doing History at Bristol at the moment, though I'm still up north at the moment. It's great to hear from another Brit and a student at that! I'm not sure that I'm a proper northerner, but I'm a real fan of many of the places here! :) --Nick talk 20:25, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

broken links edit

Hi Nick, our broken links summary reports that two subpages from you User:Nicholasjf21/Fundamentals_of_flying and User:Nicholasjf21/Pub include broken picture links. As several user try to get pics exchanged it would be welcomed if you could change the picture or delete the broken pic links. Thank you for your effort in advance! Regards, jan (talk) 17:06, 18 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Done! :) --Nick talk 17:40, 18 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Link=something in banner edit

Hey Nick - Off the top of my head, I'm not sure why the link=something wouldn't work in the mobile version. Maybe the mobile version doesn't allow it or doesn't know what to do with it (it does seem to have more control over how images are displayed)? I'll try to make some time in the next few days to play around with it. Cheers -Shaundd (talk) 19:28, 18 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks very much Shaun! :) --Nick talk 19:29, 18 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi Nick, sorry, I've been meaning to leave you a message saying that I haven't had a chance to look into it yet. Everyone in the house is sick right now so I haven't been able to get a block of time to sit down and look at it. Hopefully next week, sorry! :-) -Shaundd (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
There's really no need to apologise! I'm really sorry to hear that everyone's ill; I hope you all get better soon! Sorry for nagging! :) --Nick talk 09:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hey Nick, it looks you need to add a <div class="image">...</div> around the image (thanks, Ryan). It works on my sandbox page. Cheers -Shaundd (talk) 15:21, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks very much for all your help! That's great! :) --Nick talk 15:22, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Some spammer has stolen your user name edit

Check this out: User:NICHOLASJF21

ϒpsilon (talk) 13:37, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the heads up! I'm not quite sure why anyone would pretend to be me! --Nick talk 13:51, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Section headings edit

Hey Nick, was it you who raised the possibility of having coloured section headings a few months back? I've been messing around with it and have some code to turn section headings into a blue background (the colours aren't unique for each section though). I was wondering if you wanted to test it out since I know you don't like all that black, grey and white. :-) If you're interested, there are three CSS styles you'll have to copy from User:Shaundd/common.css into your own common.css file, and then it should work. I don't want to release it into the general common.css file yet since I haven't tested it thoroughly on different browsers and I'm not sure if everyone will like the change. Cheers -Shaundd (talk) 04:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wow! Thanks very much! It'd be good to see what everyone else thinks about them as well. --Nick talk 09:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
I've had a go as well. It looks decent for longer articles, especially with the additional lighter tone for subsections but... for articles with lower content (which is most pages), such as Talampaya National Park, it just makes the page very heavy and stripey and further highlights the lack of content, which I think looks pretty bad. I might be willing to give it another look with super-translucent, barely-there colors, but I think these strong colors are pretty overpowering for the majority of our shorter pages. Texugo (talk) 11:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Without seeing it myself, I would suggest that if the bars go all the way across the screen, that they be limited in some fashion; that should reduce the stripey-sock effect. LtPowers (talk) 15:53, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

I've tweaked the colours slightly and squared the edges off (hope you don't mind Shaun!). You can take a look at and copy my CSS (if you want) here. --Nick talk 16:05, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Category:User documentation pages edit

Hi there. I was just cleaning through Special:WantedCategories and I came across the (non-existent) Category:User documentation pages, of which the only member is User:Nicholasjf21/OnelinerTOC/doc. I didn't immediately see how to get rid of the category call or whatever, so I thought I'd just ask-- What is this category? Does it need to be created, or can we get rid of the inclusion of your user page? Texugo (talk) 20:54, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Please feel free to get rid of it! I can't actually remember creating it, so I think I must have copied it from somewhere. I've not looked at that page in months, so I'd be perfectly happy for you to do whatever you want with it. Thanks! --Nick talk 20:57, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Do you mean to delete the whole page? or just get rid of the category? Texugo (talk) 21:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
On closer inspection, it just appears to be a port of a template over on WP, so it should be easily retrievable, should we ever need it. You're more than welcome to delete both the page and the category if you'd like or whatever you think is best. I have no attachment to that page! :) --Nick talk 21:03, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Deleted. Thanks. Texugo (talk) 22:29, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

ShareMap - Wikimedia grant edit

Thanks Nick for copying :)

--Jkan997 (talk) 23:26, 12 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Happy to help! :) --Nick talk 02:26, 13 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

SEO edit

G'Day, Nick!

Because you can configure startpage.com to show pages with 10, 20, 50 or 100 results per page it might be more useful to give the actual result position than write about "5th page" which could mean anything from 50th to 599th position in the search results.

startpage.com is good not just because it de-personalises results and gives you essentially a vanilla USA result, but because its consistency also allows you to track incremental impovements or demotions over time - although I think we both know that any position below the top 3 to 6 results is entirely awful and means you get very few readers!

It's also hugely important to use a realistic and popular search phrase such as "manchester guide" rather than "manchester travel guide" which only a tiny minority of pedants will ever use. (Typical pattern would be to search first for just "manchester" and only when those results are not satisfactory to add a one (or, more rarely two) word qualifier to the search box. All the best, Nick! --118.93nzp (talk) 01:02, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

You're right! My search terms are a little bit unlikely if I'm honest, though it's good to see that some articles are improving anyway. All my results are from the default 10 results layout, but I will be more precise in future! Nice to hear from you, Nick talk 01:05, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'm not convinced someone would use "guide" as a fallback for investigating travel options. More likely is "hotels" or "attractions" or "travel" or "visiting". LtPowers (talk) 01:32, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Fortunately we don't have to accept either my own or your (differing) opinions on this, Powers. There are SEO tools available which will pinpoint the most popular search terms quite precisely - Google themselves provide some of the most useful for webmasters. There are a limited number of search terms that you can optimise a web site for and never in a month of Sundays are we ever likely to rank in the top 3 organic search results (those first 3-5 places are the only ones that really count) for search strings such as "someplace hotel". Aggregation sites such as Hotels.com and Expedia will always outgun us both in Google bucks and search engine optimisation. If Frank's action plan had been followed we would already have always ranked in the top 3 results for "guide someplace" ("visiting" is a rare to non-existent search term and "travel" or "travelling" is usually only used when folks are looking up train and bus timetables!) --118.93nzp (talk) 03:49, 19 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, you and Frank have both claimed that repeatedly, but neither of you has provided any evidence to convince anyone else of the validity. LtPowers (talk) 18:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Search Engine Optimisation is largely empirical and if you actually bother to search the literature you will see the truth of both his words and mine. Frank issued you a challenge - what have you got to lose other than search engine obscurity and duplicate penalties? If his recommendations don't work, you can always go back to curator mode... --118.93nzp (talk) 19:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
"Search the literature" with no further advice or guidance is singularly unhelpful when speaking to a layman. And it's already been explained, repeatedly, what we've "got to lose", but the concerns have not been addressed. LtPowers (talk) 16:24, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Twitter edit

Nick, I understand you are posting on Twitter, right? Can we tweet about our latest star Churchill? It's really a fine article. Thanks! --Danapit (talk) 07:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Yes, I am the Twitter bod on here. :) I did see your addition to the Twitter page - the only reason I didn't tweet about it immediately was because it had already been featured as our OtBP. I'll tweet about it in the context of our latest star article very soon! :) PS Thanks for taking a look at the Main Page proposals - I really appreciate your feedback! :) --Nick talk 13:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, that makes sense :=) And the main page: I very much like the new design and hope to see it in action soon! I will keep eye on the discussion, although technically I have nothing to contribute. All the best, Danapit (talk) 14:57, 18 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

XXL banner edit

Hi, Nicholas! Here are the screenshots. The banner problem is present both in Safari and Firefox.

How it looks in Safari
...and in Firefox

What's more interesting is that the banner looked normal (like a pagebanner when I first saw it). Are other Mac users maybe experiencing the samt thing? o.O ϒpsilon (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hmm, that is odd! I've just tweaked the site notice again - would you mind trying again and seeing how it looks now? :) --Nick talk 18:36, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
It still looks the same, or perhaps it has shrank to just XL now. It's still wide. ϒpsilon (talk) 18:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Would you mind doing a hard refresh on some pages (hold shift while pressing refresh in FF) - I'm not quite sure what's going wrong! :)
Reseted Safari, that cleans everything. Now it's extra large again. Weird.ϒpsilon (talk) 18:50, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for doing that! I'm really sorry this isn't working! I've made it a fixed image now, so it should work without issue... hopefully! --Nick talk 18:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Now it's been XS, XL and currently XXL - I took a screenshot but it's already "old". It would be good if User:Saqib or someone else on a Mac would be here to say if they have the same issues too. Well, I should look at it the positive way, I get a better look at the banner as it is bigger. :D. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Haha! The full HD experience! I've amde it smaller again now, but beyond that I'm not 100% sure what to do. Sorry! :( --Nick talk 19:04, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Before it was fine for me but now the banner is small. Here's my screenshot. --Saqib (talk) 19:33, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
It was the same for me - I made it smaller for Ypsilon and others in his situation. It's not ideal, but I was trying to compromise. --Nick talk 19:37, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Did it look normal to you all the time Saqib? It's strange. It looked normal to me earlier in the evening but when I wrote in the pub it had "grown". (Now it's been small about half an hour). ϒpsilon (talk) 19:41, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ypsi, as I said above this banner was looking normal for me a while ago (same size as page banners) but now it became small. Nick, would you please update the site notice ID. --Saqib (talk) 19:50, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Done! :) --Nick talk 20:15, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Try "<div class="topbanner">[[File:Wikivoyage Birthday Banner.jpg|frameless|1800px|link=Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub#Happy Birthday, Wikivoyage!|alt=Happy Birthday Wikivoyage!]]</div>" --Saqib (talk) 20:24, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Done again! --Nick talk 20:32, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
ϒay! Now it's back to normal! Thx!ϒpsilon (talk) 20:37, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Please undo Nick. It's hiding the page titles. Ypsi, please upload your screen shot. For me, its still not normal. Here's my screenshot. The strange thing is that the banner in the site notice is not exactly the same in size as it is in the site notice page. --Saqib (talk) 20:40, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
My screenshot got "old", now it's gargantuan again. And I gotta go, see you tomorrow! ϒpsilon (talk) 20:50, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ridiculous. Nick, I want you to try "[[File:Wikivoyage Birthday Banner.jpg|frameless|1050px|link=Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub#Happy Birthday, Wikivoyage!|alt=Happy Birthday Wikivoyage!]]" --Saqib (talk) 20:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Okay, the size look fine for me though the banner need to be centred. Perhaps adding "center" in the banner image link would work? BTW, whats the site notice banner size looking for you Nick? --Saqib (talk) 21:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
It's looking fine for me (albeit not centred), though I'm not 100% sure that's possible... --Nick talk 21:13, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Why don't you try "[[File:Wikivoyage Birthday Banner.jpg|frameless|center|1050px|link=Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub#Happy Birthday, Wikivoyage!|alt=Happy Birthday Wikivoyage!]]" --Saqib (talk) 21:17, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
That's the current set-up. :) --Nick talk 21:25, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Nope! you missing "center". --Saqib (talk) 21:37, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Whoops! Done! :) --Nick talk 21:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
But unfortunately no success. --Saqib (talk) 21:56, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
What a pain! I suppose, as a temporary fixture, it's not too important if it's not perfect. I think the birthday might be a good opportunity to raise the Main Page again... :) --Nick talk 21:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Sure but please don't get disappointed if your new call for the main page simply neglected or ignored because as usual, the community is busy with something else (maybe something important). --Saqib (talk) 22:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Haha! Yeeesss.... :D --Nick talk 22:30, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Geo "outing" ? edit

Nick, I know you mean well, but wouldn't it be better to let users put their choice of co-ordinates on the map ?

I know it's tedious to ask each individual user that you think you know the whereabouts of, but some folks might not even realise that you have amended their entry... --118.93nzp (talk) 00:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

I've only put the co-ordinates in of the place the person identifies: i.e. for the user who put Mumbai, I used the co-ordinates for Mumbai, whilst users who put their home simply as Mongolia have the coordinates that we use for Mongolia. As such, I'd hope that I'm not giving away any more info than the user initially intended, but if you think I should stop, I will do. Thanks for getting in touch! :) --Nick talk 00:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'm really not sure, Nick, but I do think it would be better perhaps to have a templated message placed on the user's talk page pointing out that they can add their co-ordinates and where and how to do it (perhaps adding that if they can't work out how to do it themselves, that they can ask you nicely for help) - for one thing, they may have stopped editing and if you do it for them, it may lead to a very misleading map of editors who are no longer that active. --118.93nzp (talk) 00:31, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
I think you're right. Is it perhaps worth blanking the page and starting from scratch? We could perhaps add a link to the page from the standard Welcome message as well. Ryan's posted aboutthis too. --Nick talk 00:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
That's a bit drastic, but there may be scope for exploring whether there is a consensus to remove those names that have not made an edit for one year {or put "(retired) after their names} and at the same time putting a notice on their talk page as to what has happened...
I'll go and amend my own standard welcome template right now, too. --118.93nzp (talk) 02:33, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Good thinking! Thanks! :) --Nick talk 02:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Enjoy Tokyo edit

Hey there. I don't really know what all these Enjoy Tokyo pages are about, I guess you found stuff on Wikibooks? Anyway, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind clearing out the broken image links and unnecessary red links from them, so that they don't populate maintenance lists like Category:Pages with broken file links and Special:WantedPages. What do ya say? Texugo (talk) 13:59, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Yes, will do! Sorry that there are so many - an awful lot seemed to have been stored on Wikibooks under a GNU licence - a bit of a shame really, but I will clear them. --Nick talk 14:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks a lot! Texugo (talk) 14:55, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Reverted moves edit

Hi there. I'm not sure what you were trying to do exactly, but I just reverted 5 page moves you did for pages that start with Hiking in the Canadian Rockies/Wikibooks/Abcdefg... The pages were not formatted or named like any page type we use here, and contained fragmented information already in place on the main Hiking in the Canadian Rockies page you made, plus they were screwing up the counts on the WV:Maintenance panel since they didn't belong to any known page type. I hope you don't mind me putting them back in your user space for now. Texugo (talk) 19:55, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

That's fine! I moved them simply for attribution purposes as Wikibooks is deleting them, so I wasn't sure where to put them. Is there a better way of providing proper attribution? It's probably not ideal to keep them in my userspace if we want them to be properly viewable. --Nick talk 20:01, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Why don't we put them on their own talk subpages, like Talk:Hiking in the Canadian Rockies/Wikibooks/blablabla and link them from Talk:Hiking in the Canadian Rockies with an explanatory message. That way we won't be creating new article types in the main namespace. Texugo (talk) 20:06, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Sounds good to me! This attribution business is complicated! :) --Nick talk 20:07, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Have a look at the message I left at Talk:Colico. If that is accurate, perhaps you can craft a similar message for Talk:Hiking in the Canadian Rockies? Texugo (talk) 21:51, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
I like it! I'll replicate that! --Nick talk 21:52, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
User:Nicholasjf21/London and User:Nicholasjf21/Enjoy Tokyo are going to be fun...! --Nick talk 21:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Awesome, thanks! And thanks for rescuing this stuff! Texugo (talk) 22:39, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
It's a pleasure! :) --Nick talk 22:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hi again! Would you be willing to take care of the double redirects from this? Or I could do it if you want, but it's your user space, so... Texugo (talk) 13:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'll do it now! :) --Nick talk 21:27, 14 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thank you kindly! Texugo (talk) 21:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Another wikibooks-related question edit

Hi again! I was looking through Special:WantedCategories and I have just another quick question. I noticed that this page and this one are more things you found on Wikibooks. I assume the category call for Category:Teaching Assistant in France Survival Guide and the template call for {{Teaching Assistant in France Survival Guide/TOC}} are vestiges from there that could be deleted? Thanks! Texugo (talk) 14:06, 14 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Yes, they're ripe for deletion, so I'll get rid of them! --Nick talk 21:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks once again. Texugo (talk) 21:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

common.css changes edit

Hi Nick - if possible, would you mind flagging any additions to MediaWiki:Common.css that are for demonstration purposes so that we can easily remove them later if they are not implemented? Unused CSS and JS takes up bandwidth and slows down page rendering somewhat, so it would be good to have a comment like /* DEMO: for User:Wrh2/Main_Page */ around CSS that may not be permanent. If there is a reason not to do so then ignore this request, but if it doesn't create much extra work then it would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:01, 23 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, you're right! I've gone renegade! I'll put that around the bits I've added now. :) --Nick talk 23:02, 23 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! I've also moved the new design to Main Page/Sandbox so that it's in a more community-friendly place. CSS & JS have been updated accordingly, and User:Wrh2/Main Page is now a redirect. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Abuse Filter edit

I've added Special:AbuseFilter/18 but haven't enabled it yet. It's meant to slow down page moves for new users after they've moved a few pages. Worth while enabling? -- WOSlinker (talk) 23:29, 13 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

That definitely sounds worthwhile to me! This type of vandalism has been on the rise lately and I can only see it increasing - thanks for adding that filter! -Nick talk 23:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
I've enabled it. Let's see if it helps. -- WOSlinker (talk) 06:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Same vandal? edit

Hi! I see you had had to deal with a vandal who has moved pages to weird titles and gave the vandal a one day block. There was a very similar situation here a week ago and the vandal got an indef block. ϒpsilon (talk) 04:04, 14 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Now I see that you were already aware of it not being the first time vandals move pages on a massive scale lately (when pressing "Add topic" I seldom read comments already here). Anyhow, I think "vandalism only" accounts should be indefblocked without any warning shots just as Ryan did with Boeing 737. ϒpsilon (talk) 07:53, 14 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Manchester Metrolink edit

Hi Nick, There is a new book out called "The Metrolink Companion" by Barry Worthington that is basically a tourist's guide to Greater Manchester but from the Metrolink. I bought it today and it is 300+ pages of A5 text with great detail of what to see if travelling by tram. I was wondering about adding a line or two about it? Altfish (talk) 19:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

A sentence directing people who want to find out more sounds fine to me; as long as it's not overt advertising and follows the Don't Tout guidelines on here, I can't see anyone having a problem with it. :) --Nick talk 23:46, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Re: Milan edit

Oh thank you, I didn't know that ;) --Radd94 (talk) 12:34, 29 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

You're welcome! Thanks for joining us! :) --Nick talk 12:35, 29 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wikivoyage imports from English Wikibooks edit

Have all the pages you wish to use at Wikivoyage been imported yet per your RFD nominations at English Wikibooks? I have proposed to keep "Hiking in the Canadian Rockies", "Teaching Assistant in France Survival Guide", and "Guide to Electrical Equipment for Travelers" because of their more specific scope and audience. Where Wikibooks and Wikivoyage should or shouldn't overlap isn't clear yet, so this can also be understood as an attempt to err on the side of caution with respect to those three books. --Darklama (talk) 04:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

I have imported all of them yes, thank you, though I thought that the electrical guide might sit well here as it's very similar to Electrical systems. Thanks for getting in touch! --Nick talk 11:28, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
If you haven't already been notified, please see Talk:Tokyo#Wikibooks import waiting to be merged, which you may or may not want to comment on, or otherwise follow-up on. - dcljr (talk) 21:36, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Upload files, Upload Wizard? edit


Hello! Sorry for writing in English. As you're an administrator here, please check the message I left on MediaWiki talk:Licenses and the village pump. Thanks, Nemo 19:23, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wikivoyage:Tips for new contributors edit

Hi Nick - you added a merge tag to Wikivoyage:Tips for new contributors in April [5]. Can you point me to a discussion that led to that tagging so that I have some background before attempting to resolve the issue? Currently the "tips" page is the first link in our standard welcome message, so I'd like to resolve the issue of having the first thing a new user clicks on going to a page that is tagged for merging. Thanks for any info! -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:25, 29 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi! It's a while a go, so I'm not 100% sure, but this looks like the likely discussion - [6]. Feel free to remove the tag if you don't think it's pertinent or desirable. I think I just thought that the discussion was insufficient top act, so I just tagged it instead. --Nick talk 03:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:43, 30 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Do you happen to know how to fix this bug? edit

Hi Nick,

I am one of the two admins at the Hebrew Wikivoyage and am THE most active user at the Hebrew Wikivoyage since it was launched back in March 2013. After various Hebvoy users told me that they prefer a more minimalist and colorful design for Hebvoy's front page (instead of the old front page design which resembled Wikipedia's front page design), in the recent weeks I created a new slightly altered version of the Engvoy front page which is now used as the front page design of the Hebrew Wikivoyage.

I noticed that you were involved in creating the beautiful design of the English Wikivoyage front page back in March last year. Did you create this design completely by yourself? (who is Mark?)

Unfortunately, the altered design I created, has an annoying bug I haven't solved yet... this bug causes the two image maps embeded in the two banner maps to not work properly when the users whom view this page have a smaller screen size (for example, if the users have older computer screens or tablet/phablet/phone screens). You'll be able to see this problem clearly if you resize your browser's window size on your desktop/laptop (the regions of the map become unclickable). Do you happen to know how to fix this bug? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 03:32, 7 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there!
Sorry for the slow reply! From what I remember, this was Mark's domain really. From what I remember he created some JavaScript that resized the imagemap beneath the picture so it worked seamlessly - it might be worth having a look through the scripts that are active on EN and seeing if you can find it.
Hope this helps! --Nick talk 11:54, 9 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Is Mark still around? What is his username? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 16:31, 9 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Yes, he's MarkJaroski, though I'm not sure how active he is these days. --Nick talk 14:12, 10 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

User:Nicholasjf21/MainPage2 CSS edit

Hi Nick - question for you: there is currently a large amount of CSS in MediaWiki:Common.css for the User:Nicholasjf21/MainPage2 page. Is that proposed main page still something that is being pursued? If not, would it be possible to move that CSS to your user space CSS file (User:Nicholasjf21/common.css)? Doing so would help clean up the main CSS file a bit, which would insignificantly improve page load times, but more importantly make our CSS a bit easier to maintain. Note that if the proposed main page changes are still under consideration then the CSS can definitely stay where it is, but if it's not an active proposal then it would probably be better to move it. Thanks! -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:36, 10 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

You're definitely right, Ryan! I'm sorry that I've not been on here more of late - life's been a bit busy (not in a bad way!)! Nice job with putting a search bar on the Main Page - I think it's a good addition. I'll get rid of any CSS that I can spot now - I'd sort of forgotten it was there! Whilst I was keen on that proposal it was perhaps a bit radical, maybe we can return to it at some point in the future. Hope you're well! --Nick talk 18:48, 10 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the CSS update. I'm horrendous at graphic design, but very much wanted to move forward with your search box idea - I give you full credit for the recent (incremental) change to the main page, and look forward to seeing what ideas you might have in store in the future. Hope to see you back more when your life calms down! -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Wikivoyage:Tourism Bureau Expedition edit

Hi @Nicholasjf21: I was looking at Wikivoyage:Tourism Bureau Expedition and was reading about what it is and what it aims to do. I am impressed by it and would like to help with it. But I don't exactly know how it works or how to contribute to it. I saw you were one of the main people behind it and I wondered whether you could help me understand it? I would be able to help especially with South East England (East Sussex and Eastbourne in particular). Could you help explain it to me?  Seagull123  Φ  19:59, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi there! Thanks for getting in touch; sorry for the slow response - been exploring the world myself! The expedition has suffered a little recently, but is certainly still alive and well (indeed I contacted Marketing Manchester recently to inform them that the city was our Destination of the Month). We've mainly been focussed on contacting Tourism Boards and investigating potential areas for cooperation. It's great to meet another Briton on here - were any bureaux in particular that you were thinking of contacting? :) --Nick talk 22:28, 10 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Manchester Airport for Featured Travel Topic edit


I noticed you haven't contributed here in a while. If you still do check out Wikivoyage, you might want to know that Manchester Airport has been nominated for FTT and it will probably be featured in four months, that is, in October. As the main contributor to the article in 2013, and presumably a local, do you have any opinion on the article's current state (is it up to date?, is something important missing?) or the nomination in general? ϒpsilon (talk) 19:33, 15 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Administrator status (Official Notice) edit

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