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Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates

Here we determine which articles are featured on the Main Page as Destination of the month (DotM), Off the Beaten Path (OtBP) and Featured travel topics (FTT).

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NominateEdit

You can nominate any article you would like to see featured. Any destination, region, itinerary or event that passes the "What is an article?" test is eligible for nomination.

However, before nominating, please check that the article follows these basic guidelines:

Well-known and/or popular destinations should be nominated as Destination of the Month, while more obscure destinations should be nominated for Off the Beaten Path. Travel topics, phrasebooks, itineraries and other articles should be nominated for Featured Travel Topic. Where applicable, you should propose a good time to visit the destination as a month to be featured.

The basic format of a nomination is as follows:

{{FeatureNom
| place=Destination
| blurb='''[[Destination]]''' is a place of contrasts, and as such it...
| status=Guide
| time=March-June
| nominatedBy=~~~~
| comment=Great article and it's just luvvly-jubbly in the springtime.
| DotMImage=[[File:Destinationimage.jpg|thumb|300px]]
}}

Add a nomination to the end of the appropriate section.

DiscussEdit

You can comment on any nomination based on timeliness and adherence to the criteria above, just add a bullet point (*) and your signed opinion.

===[[Destination]]===
Great article and it's just luvvly-jubbly in the springtime. TravelNut 25:25, 31 Feb 2525 (EDT)
* Looks nice, but shouldn't the Do section contain more than just quilting contests? ~~~~

Please note that the following are not considered valid reasons to oppose a nomination:

  • "I don't like it." All objections have to be based on the guidelines above: poor formatting, missing information, etc. Personal opinions, dislikes, etc. do not count.
  • "Wrong time of year." Articles are supported or opposed based on their content. Timing can be worked out later.
  • "Wrong type of place." Articles are supported or opposed based on their content. Whether it's DotM or OtBP can be worked out later.

SelectEdit

If an article gets several comments in favor and none against for a week or so, it's eligible to be placed in an appropriate time-slot in the Upcoming queue. If the objections are relatively minor and are being worked on, add them to the Upcoming queue tentatively (add a question mark "?" after the article). Feel free to move the queue around or swap articles if it makes sense. If a nomination clearly does not make the grade and if the objections are not easily fixable, they go into the Slush pile.

Once a nomination has been scheduled, an appropriate banner image and text blurb must be selected. Go to Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners to start that discussion.

ArchiveEdit

Discussions for previously selected destinations are kept in the Archive.

UpcomingEdit

ScheduleEdit

The following queue should contain about six months' worth of upcoming destinations. Note that new DotMs are rotated in on the 1st of each month, OtBPs on the 11th and travel topics on the 21st.

Month DotM OtBP FTT
June 2019 Fukuoka Ilulissat Seinfeld Tour
July 2019 Berlin - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Yuryev-Polsky - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Vikings and the Old Norse
August 2019 Sarajevo Olomouc - pending stronger consensus to support Magellan-Elcano circumnavigation
September 2019 Birmingham (Alabama) - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Kamphaeng Phet The Canadian - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support
October 2019 San Miguel de Allende - pending stronger consensus to support Letchworth State Park - pending stronger consensus to support Hotels - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support
November 2019 Zhuhai - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Jost Van Dyke - pending stronger consensus to support Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport - pending stronger consensus to support

These are not cast in stone, and the order can be changed if, for example, an excellent guide for a timely event is found. Whenever a guide becomes a current feature, it should be removed from the list, the discussion archived, and (when changing out Featured Travel Topics) a new month added to the end of the queue. Alternatives are OK; the whole point is to enable some discussion as needed.

Next changesEdit

Decisions regarding which images to use as the banners are made at Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners.

The section below provides an opportunity to see what the upcoming featured articles will look like on the Main Page using the banners that are currently most popular on the above page.


UpdatingEdit

On the date of the scheduled change, the DotM, OtBP, or FTT should be changed as close to midnight UTC as possible. When the featured page is changed, please follow the following procedures to do so and archive content to the appropriate pages. At each stage, please double-check that you are correctly moving content.

  1. Update the featured articles on the main page by replacing the current 'banner' template section with those of the appropriate banner for the new DotM/OtBP/FTT found in the Next change section above.
  2. Update the Photo credits page with the banner's original image, title and attribution.
  3. Add the former featured article to the appropriate archive page: Previous Destinations of the month, Previously Off the beaten path, or Previous Featured travel topics.
  4. Remove Template:Featurenomination from newly featured article.
  5. For the former featured article, add the appropriate parameter to the pagebanner template (directly after the image filename) to label the page as having been featured previously.
    • For former DotMs, add: dotm=yes
    • For former OtBPs, add: otbp=yes
    • For former FTTs, add: ftt=yes
  6. Archive the newly featured article's nomination. Simply cut-and-paste the nomination section of the newly featured article from this page to Wikivoyage:Destination of the Month candidates/Archive.
  7. Update the Next change section above by adding the banner from the discussion page. View the table in the Schedule section above to determine what next month's change will be, then update the image and blurb in the "Next change" section with that found in the upcoming featured article's nomination.
  8. Archive the newly featured article's banner by cutting-and-pasting all banner suggestions and the associated discussion into Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners/Archive.

Nominations for Destination of the MonthEdit

BerlinEdit

Place: Berlin
Blurb: Germany's capital was at the heart of the Cold War and still bears the scars of wars and partition, but it is quickly reclaiming its place as one of Europe's - if not the world's - top cities. A vibrant cultural scene and surprisingly affordable prices make this "poor but sexy" city a draw for visitors and residents from all over the globe (again, I am not too happy with my blurbing skills) (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Usable, but imho only because nobody has promoted it to Guide yet; all districts are usable or guide, so that's not what's keeping it Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: any - Berlin weather is terrible year round (though Spaniards falling in love with Berlin summer on holiday only to be miserable during their winter-Erasmus are surprisingly common) and there is really something to do all year (which might explain why Hertha BSC has trouble attracting fans)
Nominated by: Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:45, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Comment: I know we have more than enough German language places "in the pipeline", but I just wanted to get this nominated there's no rush to get this actually featured; it can well languish here if some considerations make this necessary, but in case we have to slush something on short notice, I want this to be ready

Nomination
  • Comment - this is currently rated at usable, simply because I did not unilaterally want to promote it to guide. I think it is quite ready, but a bit of copy-editing might still be necessary. At any rate, we can safely hold this one in reserve (we have a lot of Central European places and topics as is imho) until we need an emergency replacement Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:47, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Almost some sections are listy, and then there are listings in See and Do that should be moved to the district articles. As such, I'd say there is enough information in the article so that the average visitor wouldn't have to consult another travel guide. Therefore, it can probably be upgraded to guide status. --ϒpsilon (talk) 19:03, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Close, the main problem being the issue Ypsi brought up about "See" and "Do" listings that need to be devolved to district articles (there also seem to be some "Do" listings that violate our tour policy and should thus be deleted outright). Also, though it's not usual practice to do so, I wonder if there's anything that can be done about the exhaustive list of embassies and consulates in "Cope". If not, no big deal - Berlin is a national capital, after all - but it seems pretty Yellow Page-y. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 22:51, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Another thing: The article currently has no routebox whatsoever. How important should the existence and completeness of a routebox be for featuring? Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:34, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Before featuring, I'd like somebody to go over the language and a sprucing up of the district blurbs. Otherwise I think the article is fine and getting better. And the district layout now makes sense for the most part, though I am still not 100% sure what to do with Wedding... Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:09, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak support. I would support this completely, except that the "Do" section has some problems and the article seems to be understand- and get in- heavy. Selfie City (talk) 01:15, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment: I'm not a regular participant on this project, just someone who came to read this particular page. I noticed that quite a few of the external links in the museum section need to be changed, as they're leading to 404-pages. Other than that, I found the article informative. Risker (talk) 05:47, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment we never quite resolved the boundaries of Berlin/East Central and whether we should redraw them and if so, how. Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:27, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
  • I created a (quite crude) approximation of the "Wedding and Gesundbrunnen" district in my userspace. Obviously the lede and the understand section would have to be worked on and some other issues as well... Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:47, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

SarajevoEdit

Place: Sarajevo
Blurb: Surrounded by mountains on three sides, in this meeting point of east and west a range of sights present the city's dramatic and interesting history. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep as a summer destination, though there are also some winter events and winter sports facilities (actually the 1984 Winter Olympics was held here)
Nominated by: ϒpsilon (talk) 17:58, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Comment: We've never featured any article from anywhere in the Balkans, so let's amend that now! The article has been extensively edited as of lately, so we don't need to run everything through Google to check if it's up to date like we usually have to. I don't see any major problems with the article, but it does have a ton of See listings. Discussion is underway for what to do with them (see numerous threads on Talk:Sarajevo), but there is almost a year until the article will appear on the Main Page anyway, so there is plenty of time to make decisions and take action. When that is resolved, I'll upgrade my vote to full support. Good that we this time we have several people around who know the destination.

Nomination
  • Conditional support per comment. ϒpsilon (talk) 17:58, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I would say districtification would probably be necessary before it gets promoted to Star, but for purposes of DotM I think the status quo works fine. There are no other problems with the article either, so I gladly vote support and send out my congratulations to User:Loaoa for his/her impressive contributions. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 22:41, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Support. I agree that districtification isn't needed for dotm right now, though if the article gets too much longer it might be worth considering. —Granger (talk · contribs) 01:00, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Support. Article is very readable, and although there are many See items, they are properly sectioned so I don't think that districtification would provide an added value here. Article looks very complete, why isn't this a Star yet? ArticCynda (talk) 16:57, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Because the Star nominations page is in practice dead since the last couple of years.ϒpsilon (talk) 17:11, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
But feel free to nominate it if you think that's warranted. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:39, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
So does that mean we're not nominating Stars anymore? And if so, why is that? ArticCynda (talk) 20:51, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
We are working to increase the number of active Wikivoyage editors. In the interim, however, it has sometimes proven difficult to sustain consistent participation in certain features of the site. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Support. It's pretty long, but in general I think the article looks like a fine feature. Selfie City (talk) 01:21, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Lukewarm support. The problem is that public transport to Sarajevo has dried up. This will hurt the viability of its visitor amenities and attractions, so the listings need review. Grahamsands (talk) 09:39, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Metro CebuEdit

Place: Metro Cebu
Blurb: Second largest urban area in the Philippines with the country's second busiest airport. Outlying parts have many beaches, reefs, dive sites & resorts plus the country's most important site for bird watching. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any, but probably best in northern hemisphere winter
Nominated by: Pashley (talk) 13:29, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Comment: This article was Collaboration of the month for June 2018 & is therefore now rated Guide. It is the main transport hub for the southern Philippines. Many visitors choose to enter the country via Mactan-Cebu International Airport (CEB IATA) rather than via Manila, both because this airport is easier on travellers & because it is more centrally located in the country.

Nomination
  • Support as nominator. Pashley (talk) 13:29, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Of course, this is being mentioned now the article finished its period as COTM. I think it's good to have a region article, and while this one could do with some more information still in some sections, I think it's quite a good idea. It's all up-to-date information due to the CotM and all the places underneath it are decent, as we know, so I'm supporting this nomination. Selfie City (talk) 23:07, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Unsure, looks like all the subarticles listed in the Cities section are usable and most of the article looks OK. But Eat and Drink seem a little bit short. --ϒpsilon (talk) 20:38, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Most travellers will visit only Cebu City and perhaps Lapu-Lapu, so the fact that most of the other articles on towns within the area are barely usable does not bother me much. Clearly improving them would be good, but it is not essential. The exception would be Talisay (Cebu) which is fairly large & important.
On the other hand, it would be nice to get the main cities up to Guide. I think Cebu is close, but it could use copy edits & more under Eat & Drink. L-L has problems; Drink is empty and there are only two Eat listings, far from ideal when you consider it is a tourist town & population is over 400,000. Pashley (talk) 15:44, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
I was a little unclear. Subarticles need only to be at usable status, and all of them are, which is good. It would certainly do no harm to have some of them at guide status, but they do not need to be. Secondly, I see no big problems with the article, though Eat and Drink looked a bit short. So there's no need to replace this one with Cebu City or Olango Island or some other article. ϒpsilon (talk) 16:24, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Instead of making this region article DotM, there are two places within it that might be nominated instead, Cebu City (the area's main tourist destination) for DotM and Olango Island for OtBP (a strange one, about an hour's travel from an international airport but off the main tourist path). Neither is currently rated Guide, but I think both are close. Pashley (talk) 16:01, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
A possible advantage of this as DotM is that it was created here rather than on WT before the split, as were Olango Island & I think some of its other subordinate articles. This might be good for SEO. Pashley (talk) 17:31, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Another option on the cards is Alona Beach. It’s only at usable status at the moment, but with some more work it could be at guide status. The problem is coordinates there, though — the place is so crowded in that it’s hard to be sure about them. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 14:42, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
The Cebu City article has now been promoted to Guide. The article for the region's other main destination, Lapu-Lapu, still does not have good Eat or Drink sections. Pashley (talk) 12:37, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
  • The Magellan-Elcano circumnavigation reached the Philippines in March 1521. In April they went on to Cebu City, their most important destination in the country, and Magellan was killed in a battle in what is now the city of Lapu-Lapu, named for the opposing chief. Both those cities are now part of Metro Cebu, so the 500th anniversary in April 2021 might be a good time to feature this article. Around then might also be a good time for the Magellan article. Pashley (talk) 22:52, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
The Magellan article should definitely be run next summer when they started the journey. Even if there'd be some really good excuse to postpone the Magellan article until then, if the reason to run Metro Cebu in April 2021 would be Magellan's visit there, we should not run the articles simultaneously, as we traditionally don't want to feature several articles with the same theme too close to each other.
If Metro Cebu needs to wait until 2021, it should (like London/Hampstead) be parked in the slush pile until when it's time to move it to the schedule. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:08, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
It does not need to wait until then, but it could. Pashley (talk) 00:34, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Featuring articles in tandem with timely events is well and good, but I really wish that people would stop suggesting we hold nominees off for years and years for the sole purpose of making them coincide with some far-in-the-future event (see also: Birmingham, Alabama). A long period of time spent languishing on this page means that an article that was ready to go when it was nominated might well be full of outdated information by the time it actually goes on the Main Page. Magellan-Elcano circumnavigation is slotted for a summer FTT next year, but there's no reason we couldn't run a destination in the Philippines within the same general timeframe: by definition, a round-the-world voyage is not attributable to any geographical region in particular. Metro Cebu's "Time to feature" indicates a preference for the Northern Hemisphere winter, anyway, so it was a moot point from the getgo. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:44, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Indeed. Sorry for sounding harsh, but after my comment in January where I was concerned about how long articles nowadays sit around on the Main Page there have been quite a few nominations that will have to wait for quite some time, and there have been many suggestions that this or that article should wait until 2020 or even 2021. ϒpsilon (talk) 20:54, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Birmingham (Alabama)Edit

Place: Birmingham (Alabama)
Blurb: Once the South's premier industrial center and later notorious for its role in the Civil Rights Movement, the "Magic City" is on the rise once again thanks to a growing population of trendy young urbanites. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Mar-May or Sep-Nov (midsummer is very hot and muggy)
Nominated by: AndreCarrotflower (talk) 02:19, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Comment: We have room for one more U.S. DotM in 2019, and here's my preferred candidate. I visited Birmingham in 2012 and found it a fascinating anomaly (a Southern city founded around steel mills and a railroad junction, rather than cotton fields?), with industrial relics that look like they could have been plucked out of Buffalo or any other Northern Rust Belt city. I'm especially looking forward to making DotM banners for this one; I have a couple really nice source-image candidates in my personal archives.

Nomination


  • Very close, and I don't envision the fixes requiring more than a few days' work. Many listings are missing geo coordinates and there are a few of the wrong type (I'm talking specifically about the "Buy" section here), much of "Do" needs to be moved to "See", and the "Get in", "Get around", and "Go next" sections could use some further development. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 02:19, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Needs work, as André just said. Coordinates, descriptions for many listings in Buy and Sleep, and of course photos. And when adding coordinates, closed attractions and businesses should be removed. BTW this is the only U.S. DotM candidate in 2019 so far, though there are indeed a huge number of American OtBP candidates. ϒpsilon (talk) 09:17, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment Birmingham has been chosen to host the 2021 World Games. If we could coincide our feature with that event, I think we should. Hobbitschuster (talk) 09:38, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
I think we should definitely get back in the habit of synchronizing our featured articles with timely events that will be occurring at the respective destinations, but forcing a nominee to wait nearly 3 years on that basis before being featured would be unprecedented and unwarranted. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 17:47, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Look, I really don't want to play the "I've been here longer than you and know what I'm talking about" card, but let me repeat myself: making nominees wait three years to be featured is something we simply don't do here. The more time passes between when an article is checked over and when it goes on the Main Page, the more of a chance there is for restaurants, bars or hotels to close or change their opening hours, URLs to go dead, new attractions to open their doors, etc. There have actually been instances when we've thrown nominees on the slush pile rather than having them languish on the DotM nominations page for too long. Now I'm sure there are plenty of other events taking place in 2021 that we can coordinate with a DotM feature, and three years is more than enough time to make whatever improvements are necessary to whatever article we choose. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Also, Pleasanton is tentatively scheduled for May 2019, and the fact that Great Basin National Park has to wait until 2020 has nothing to do with the DotM column, but rather with the fact that there are so many U.S. OtBP nominees. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Makes sense. How important are the 2021 World Games? Selfie City (talk) 00:33, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
PS: I'm sorry for having acted in such a way here. Yes, I was just trying to annoy you... --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:24, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment - Not ready yet. I just moved the "Learn" section of naked names to the talk page, but there is a longish list of mere names of shopping malls in "Buy". Ideally, too, everything in a fixed location should have geo. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:34, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

OsloEdit

Place: Oslo
Blurb: Norway's capital and largest city has a heritage back to the Viking Age, and is known for winter sport venues and sustainable architecture. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Late winter for snow, May for National Day, summer for city-life
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 23:18, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Comment: The only Nordic capital yet to be featured. Lots of buildings finished during recent years. While still one of the world's most expensive cities, the krone has fallen since its record level around 2013 (from 0.18 US$ to 0.12).

Nomination


  • Could do with some work, but otherwise looks like a quite a good nomination. As the previous sentence suggests, I have some fairly minor concerns with nominating this article. But before I get to them, I think we ought to go with summer if possible for this nomination. I can imagine that Oslo is too cold to be enjoyable for tourists during much of the year. Even if it isn't too cold, if we post up Oslo in February on the main page, most people will think that it's cold and they won't want to go there.
Now to the nitty-gritty. When you nominate a huge city article (that is, one with districts underneath it), you are nominating the districts as well as the city article itself. The Oslo Center District article is only at usable status, and while most of the article sections in that district article look fine, the "Do" section has only one listing — one listing. And while "see" makes up for this with a total of 17 listings, the lack of "Do" listings makes it obvious that there are things you can do in downtown Oslo not mentioned in this article. If there are any "see" listings that are actually things to do, then this is not a concern, since we can just move those "see" listings down to the correct section. I also noticed a marker for "Do" that was in the "Get around" section.
The Western Oslo district article has no "Understand" section and is rated at usable; the Inner North, North, Inner East, and South district articles are all rated at usable status. So can we consider the huge city article to be at guide status if all the district articles underneath it are rated at usable status? While I think a lot of these district articles could be promoted to guide status, not all of them could.
On the other hand, however, none of these district articles are terrible, and the huge city article has quite a lot of information. So I think some work should go into the lower-level articles, but the huge city article looks good. Next summer it would be nice to see this on the front page if we can get the above-listed work done by then. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 23:38, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
    • For cities it is not always clear how to sort items into Do, Drink and See. For instance Rockefeller (a major concert venue) I would list under Do, now it is listed as Drink. Erik den yngre (talk) 11:31, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment — Oslo is a fairly important center for winter sports (especially as a spectator sport), so we can very well run it during the winter too (and then of course the cold weather is part of the experience). I'm afraid this is going to sit around until summer 2020, though, as the summer of 2019 is fully booked; matter of fact if Kaunas is moved up to the DotM page, I think or some other DotM from Europe is likewise going to be left sitting around until 2020 :/ .
When it comes to city districts, they only need to be usable (but all of them do have to be usable) for the main city article to be guide. Think of it this way, city articles are divided into districts when/because they are so stuffed with listings that they become unwieldy. This by definition means that the city article has enough listings for guide status and the Main Page, the listings have only been distributed around several district articles for easier reading and usage.
All in all, I remember the Oslo article was in a pretty good shape when districtifying it almost exactly two years ago, though the article and the listings in the districts could benefit from an update closer to the time when we run it on the Main Page. --ϒpsilon (talk) 13:21, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Ypsilon, this is very helpful. I have a couple questions, though:
  1. What about May? Is that open?
  2. Why does it have to wait 2 years? We don’t have 24 DOTM nominations. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 14:53, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
We can only fit so many articles in the summer slots and most places in Europe, USA and Canada are best featured from May-Sep. These are the parts of the world we cover best by far (probably because most of the en-WV community comes from these parts of the world) and therefore the summer tends to be "sold out" more or less one year ahead. Right now we have quite many European DotM candidates (somewhat comparable to the situation of American OtBP candidates) and to keep the Main Page varied, we really don't want to have European DotMs for, say, four months straight in the schedule. Then comes the autumn and except for nominees from the Mediterranean (or for the US, from places like Florida, Hawaii or California) or places that are suitable for a winter visit, the next time European, US and Canadian articles can be featured weather-wise is late next spring. ϒpsilon (talk) 16:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Well I plan to nominate York for a November or a December slot. It's not ready yet, though.
I see no problem with a winter slot for Oslo, but haven't looked at the article yet.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:41, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Portland (Oregon)Edit

Place: Portland (Oregon)
Blurb: Oregon's largest city attracts young Americans looking for a sustainable lifestyle. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: northern summer
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 13:11, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Comment: Slushed in 2010, but has grown a lot since then. Has all the essentials of a city article.

Nomination
  • Not yet — at a first glance it looks like a solid article, but some listings lack description (most notably in the Sleep section). The article has a huge number of Eat listings (83!). Yes, some of them are local chains with several restaurants but still... ϒpsilon (talk) 15:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
  • If being complete means adding even more length and listings to an already overlong and over-listy article, as Ypsilon said (and I agree with him), then the answer is that Portland needs to be districtified first. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:52, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Interestingly, districtification has already been discussed three times on Talk:Portland (Oregon). ϒpsilon (talk) 13:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Slush?Edit

Between this nomination and Talk:Portland (Oregon) (and just look at the article itself!), there's a strong indication that this article ought to be districtified before it's put on the Main Page. That's a formidable task that, in the nearly five months since it's been nominated, no one has bothered to get started on. Also, the nominee doesn't currently have any Support votes to go on the Main Page as is. Are we going to get moving on this or should Portland be slushed? -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 05:23, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Agree, let's slush for now.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
As discussed, Portland needs to be districtified. It shouldn't be to difficult to divide the city into a couple of districts, for example per the suggestion in Talk:Portland_(Oregon)#Districtification.
But as the schedule is full for the warm months of 2019, Portland is either going to sit around for 1+ year or something from the schedule will have to give up its place. -- ϒψιλον (talk) 11:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Ypsi - Now that you mention it, I do remember the districtification of Riga ahead of its term of DotM took much less time than I'd expected. But the question is: given all the other work that needs to be done, on other DotM candidates and elsewhere on the site, is anyone actually going to take on this project? We have enough DotM candidates, and enough Guide-level articles especially among U.S. destinations, that it would be no big deal if we slushed Portland, not to mention that it was nominated too late to make the summer 2019 schedule anyway. I'd say let's revisit this issue in three months and see if any progress has been made in the interim. What do you (and others) think about that? -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
I've never used more than a few days to districtify a city. Usually it does just take a couple of hours to move the listings, once the district division and borders have been decided. Then the main article needs some more content in sections that formerly had listings, district articles need some info in Understand and Get in (a look at the city's map and public transport network map is often enough), and then a district map needs to be created.
I could help out with districtifying Portland, but it will have to wait a while; other WV projects (yup, also DotM related :)) have priority. -- ϒψιλον (talk) 18:49, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Portland is now districtified. -- ϒψιλον (talk) 19:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Borderline between support and not yet. I find it hard to make up my mind here. The eat section, for example, is much to long, and therefore is like a yellow pages guide and not a travel guide. Otherwise, however, it looks like a reasonably good article. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:26, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

DistrictsEdit

Regarding the fact that, as Ypsilon says, it's now districtified, I have a couple thoughts:

  1. I think it would make sense for Portland to be moved to Portland and for the disambiguation page to moved to Portland (disambiguation).
  2. Good news about the districtification! The district articles look good, although perhaps they could do with some more general information. (For example, none of them have an "understand" section.)
  3. In the "districts" section of the main article, there definitely ought to be a description of each of the districts, so travelers can know a little about each district before visiting their respective pages.

--Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:56, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Better to have that discussion in Talk:Portland_(Oregon)#Districtification_for_DotM, there indeed are still some things both the main Portland article and the district articles need. ϒψιλον (talk) 05:10, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

FukuokaEdit

Place: Fukuoka
Blurb: Warm weather, a friendly populace, and a relative lack of chaos combine to make Kyushu's lively yet laid-back hub city a great introduction for first-time visitors to Japan. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Mar-Nov, Jul and Aug less preferable due to heat and humidity
Nominated by: AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:19, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Comment: Our Summer 2019 schedule is chock full of U.S. and European destinations; here's something different.

Nomination


  • Very close, and the fixes are fairly easy. The "Do" section is the biggest problem: it contains plenty of content but is disorganized. Many of the listings belong in other sections: "See", "Buy", "Eat", and even "Go next"; the rest should be broken down into subcategories. In addition, "Eat" could use a few more restaurant listings to go with the copious information about local specialties, there are many listings without coordinates, and the lede needs to be expanded and made more interesting. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:19, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Needs work. André already listed the article's issues. The fact the so many listings lack coordinates may indicate that they have been added before we introduced coordinates and dynamic maps here on WV, so we should check if the establishments still exist.ϒψιλον (talk) 21:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Time to run everything through Google Maps, I will probably do it during the weekend if I have time. Thanks to AlasdairW for starting. Ypsilon (talk) 10:13, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Sadly I haven't had too much time to contribute as of lately, but I added some coordinates yesterday. Kudos to everyone who has been improving the Fukuoka article for its upcoming month on the Main Page. I think I will give the article a support vote as of now. Ypsilon (talk) 16:00, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Almost. I have done some edits, but more are required. I added co-ordinates to a few listings, but this is slow as our map uses Kanji characters. I spent one night in Fukuoka in 2005, but I didn't have much time to explore. I don't see massive errors, but I don't know how up to date it is. AlasdairW (talk) 21:41, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
I now support featuring this. It is still a little short of co-ordinates, mainly in Buy and Eat, but See and Sleep are now complete. I did delete quite a few closed places, so feel free to add a few more listings. AlasdairW (talk) 22:14, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
In a country like Japan there's really no excuse for any listing to lack coordinates. If no one else gets to it first, I will do my best to add those that are lacking, but can't in good conscience change my vote to "support" until that happens. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 21:41, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Wow. The time formatting was all over the place, even shifting from 12-hr to 24-hr within a listing. I've fixed it now. I'm afraid I can't help with coordinates, though. Ground Zero (talk) 21:52, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Weak support- Well, This article is not bad as it is... I think this qualifies as a DOTM. The buy section is not filled at it's entire capacity, but other than that, i do not see much bigger flaws in this article. I think it's almost good to go... Arep Ticous 09:37, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you Ypsilon for coming through in the clutch once again. Since coordinates are no longer an issue, I'm able to support this nominee. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 19:34, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Support per others. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:37, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

ZhuhaiEdit

Place: Zhuhai
Blurb: Warm weather, some nice islands & beaches, good shopping, lively nightlife. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: any, with a preference for N hemisphere winter
Nominated by: Pashley (talk) 13:05, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Our Summer 2019 schedule is chock full of U.S. and European destinations; here's another Asian one.

Nomination

 


  • I am not certain how up-to-date this article is & it lacks a map, but it looks near ready. The city is interesting & fairly heavily touristed, mostly northern Chinese fleeing their harsh winters or Hong Kong & Taiwan people coming for cheap shopping & entertainment. Pashley (talk) 13:05, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Overall the article looks pretty complete. Our coverage of the city's islands is currently weak—for "the city of a hundred islands" that's not great, but I don't know if it's a barrier to featuring. I'm going to be traveling to Zhuhai for a few days later this month, so I should be able to get a sense of whether there's anything else that needs work.
One thing the article certainly needs is coordinates for the listings and the ferry terminals. A map showing the districts would be nice too. Anyone who wants to add coordinates, be careful not to copy them directly from Google Maps or Baidu Maps (see Talk:China#GPS coordinates in China). —Granger (talk · contribs) 03:58, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Not yet. As Granger said, the lack of coordinates for the listings is the most significant barrier to featuring. Also, regarding the comment in the feature nomination template: DotM has become popular enough that the wait time between nomination and Main Page feature is generally between 6 and 12 months barring an extreme mishap with an already-scheduled article, so summer 2019 isn't going to happen. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 04:35, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Needs work; mostly coordinates and a checkup that each listing still exists. After a look at the climate table in Wikipedia I think this should be run in the Northern Hemisphere winter, just as stated in the "time" parameter. -- ϒψιλον (talk) 12:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Close. I got back from my trip and think the article seems pretty complete. Once coordinates are added, I think it'll be just about ready for featuring.
It would also be good to improve coverage of the Wanshan Islands (currently only described very briefly) and to rewrite the "Eat" section so all the restaurants have names and addresses (some just have general descriptions and somewhat vague directions). I'm not sure those fixes are necessary for featuring, though.
I agree with Northern Hemisphere winter—summer around here is hot and humid. —Granger (talk · contribs) 02:58, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

San Miguel de AllendeEdit

Place: San Miguel de Allende
Blurb: This artsy colonial city with exciting events is not only a destination to visit but has for many become a second home. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Fall or spring are probably best (how about Oct or Nov 2019 for Día de Muertos; I think these are the next slots we're looking for articles for?)
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 12:13, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Comment: It's a while since we last ran a Mexican article on the Main Page, and here's a nice one (you guessed it, largely thanks to StellarD) which I just added coordinates to and tidied up a bit.

Nomination
  • Support. Thank you Ypsilon for taking the time to finally clean up the article. As you've suggested, this would be a good candidate for either spring or fall, or Día de Muertos. My only comment is that the listing for the UNESCO site of Atotonilco should either be expanded, or possibly split into a new article. This has been brought up before, and I'd forgotten about it (again). –StellarD (talk) 17:44, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. However, the climate data needs to be turned into a proper template before featuring. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 22:18, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

YorkEdit

Place: York
Blurb: Ancient capital city where the Romans, Angles and Vikings ruled northern England, York's many attractions include its magnificent minster and the largest railway museum in the world. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any, but recommend back half of year: 1 Aug is Yorkshire day, Sept has the highest concentration of major events, and there are also lots of pre-Christmas festivities. The weather may be poor in Nov/Dec, but the atmosphere is magical and nobody visits northern England for the weather anyway.
Nominated by: ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:37, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Comment: One of England's most-visited cities, so deserves a crack at the main page - this would be the first time a British city had been DOTM since Manchester in 2015. I have been working on this one pretty solidly since September, so hope you all like it. Work is 95% complete, with the only issues which still need to be resolved being: a lot more images are needed, the lede needs a rewrite, plus anything which comes up in comments here. My blurb (above) probably needs work as well.

Nomination
  • Support as nominator.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:42, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Support --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:14, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. A really nice article, I looked at it until I could find something to complain about... and the airports in Get in need coordinates and the Drink section perhaps could use one more photo towards the end. ϒψιλον (talk) 15:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your support and for trying so hard to find faults ;-) I definitely haven't finished adding photos, it's just that finding good quality ones which are suitable takes time.
About the airports, generally I don't put co-ordinates for locations not in or near the place covered in the article. Plus the IATA code links to the article which covers the airport in detail. Do you still think I should put in the co-ords? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:37, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
I have a habit of adding geo locations of important airports and other stations so that the traveller can visualize on the map where they will end up (relative to points of interest, hotels etc.) when they step off the vehicle. Do as you like. ϒψιλον (talk) 17:06, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

AdelaideEdit

Place: Adelaide
Blurb: South Australia's capital is known for many things — art festivals, spectator sports, 19th century architecture, and of course its gourmet food, café and wine culture. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or autumn per Adelaide#Climate, maybe February or March for the "mad March" festival season mentioned as beginning in mid-February?
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 10:33, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Comment: I added missing coordinates, updated and improved this one a while back, so the article should be good to go. We usually run two articles from this corner of the world each Austral summer (=Northern winter), so this could be the second one in addition to Norfolk Island.

Nomination
  • Support as nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 10:35, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Nha TrangEdit

Place: Nha Trang
Blurb: Vietnam's most famous beach resort has beaches, history and culinary experiences, yet is much less westernized than other major destinations in Southeast Asia. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Per w:Nha_Trang#Climate Jan-Aug is the dry season, though Northern Hemisphere summer is pretty hot.
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Comment: When nominating Da Nang (DotM March 2017) I noted that we have quite a few high-quality Vietnamese articles, so it's really about time to have another one on the Main Page. Just a few coordinates and pics was needed, and they're now added.

Nomination
  • Support as nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 18:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
@Ypsilon: Thanks for adding all these suggestions! It'll take me time to review some of them and give my opinion. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:00, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. Nothing jumps out at me as needing fixing. If I may, though: we have one winter 2019-20 DotM slot left, and let's avoid having to fill it with another Asian destination. We already have a lot of them on the schedule around that time for DotM and OtBP, and it's getting tough to schedule them away from each other. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 19:25, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
We have three Asian candidates now in the DotM section; Zhuhai (which at the moment has quite weak support), Metro Cebu and Nha Trang, and in the OtBP section there's just Pakse, so I think there's about the usual amount of Asian articles for a winter. --Ypsilon (talk) 20:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Presently in my draft schedule I have Zhuhai on tap for DotM in November, Adelaide in December, Metro Cebu in January, nothing for February as yet, and Nha Trang in March. Even if we shuffled those around, another Asian DotM candidate would inevitably mean running three of them in a row. In theory, we could run another Asian OtBP next winter, but we also don't have any open OtBP spots until April 2020, so doing so would require rescheduling a preexisting candidate. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 21:10, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
I thought about a setup like this, because TT recommended York for the Christmas season: Zhuhai in Nov, York in Dec, Metro Cebu in Jan, Adelaide in Feb (for the Mad March festival season beginning in middle of February which seems to be a huge thing down there), Nha Trang in March or April. Oslo could be run already in late winter for winter sports, but May for the Constitution Day festivities is probably best. I thought about
On the OtBP side there'd be Norfolk Island in Nov (a few months between the Aussie articles), Pakse in Dec, Jost van Dyke in Jan, Jeffreys Bay in Feb, then maybe Thimphu in March, and Great Basin National Park can apparently be featured at earliest in April.
All in all we now have (or almost have) the necessary articles for the next winter. --Ypsilon (talk) 09:47, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Nominations for Off the Beaten PathEdit

Yuryev-PolskyEdit

Place: Yuryev-Polsky
Blurb: Smack-dab in the middle of the Golden Ring tourist circuit yet relatively little visited, this sleepy old Russian town is gathered around a magnificent 13th-century cathedral. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Jun 2018 preferred, otherwise Apr-Aug
Nominated by: AndreCarrotflower (talk) 04:02, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Comment: Ordinarily I'd be hesitant to nominate an article that needs so much work before featuring (see my comments below), but several factors converge to make Yuryev-Polsky IMO the best choice for the still-vacant June 2018 OtBP slot.

For one, the geographical options are limited:

  • the nearby articles on the bracket trend very heavily toward Northwestern Europe (Erlangen OtBP May 2018, Höfn OtBP July 2018, Wales DotM July 2018)
  • through the end of 2018, we're already saturated with the maximum number of North American nominees we can handle (Underground Railroad, FTT July 2018, took the last available slot),
  • the convergence of Downtown Shanghai (DotM May 2018) and Ottoman Empire (FTT May 2018) would make an Asian feature awkward (especially given that we want to stay away from more equatorial regions like the Arabian Peninsula, the Indian Subcontinent, and Southeast Asia around midsummer), and
  • for similar reasons of uncomfortably hot weather, Mediterranean Europe is also less than ideal for a June-July Main Page sojourn.

Secondly, it's worth noting that other than Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk - a Siberian wilderness backwater closer to Seattle than Moscow - it's been since 2013 that we've featured a Russian destination on the Main Page.

Finally: though this article appears to be a more-or-less straight translation of its analogue on ru: and there's little if anything more to be gleaned from translating from there, it bears emphasizing that Yuryev-Polsky is part of the "Golden Ring" tourist circuit of Russian historic cities, so the chances are good that we can glean additional information from the Internet to flesh out the listings.

Nomination


  • Not yet, though the problems with this article are easier fixes than it may look like at first blush. The most demanding task here is the need to flesh out the "Get around" section. (For starters, it looks like much of the prose in the "Orientation" subsection of "Understand" could be retooled and moved there.) There are many others which, while also major deficiencies, require relatively little actual work to fix:
  • There is no dynamic map, nor any geo coordinates for the listings.
  • The bullet-point lists in the various "Get in" subsections should be converted to prose, and in "By plane", we might want to give directions to the town from the various Moscow-area airports.
  • The "Eat" and "Sleep" sections might need to be expanded; "Drink" definitely does.
  • "Go next" and "See" need to be reformatted to conform with Wikivoyage convention.
  • The article looks like it could use a thorough copyedit.
-- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 04:02, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
I'll take your word for all the things that need to be fixed, but one quick and tangential comment: There is no convergence between Shanghai and the Ottoman Empire. You might as well say there's a convergence between Tierra del Fuego and Alaska, considering the distance and cultural differences involved. Asia is the world's largest continent, and I believe that featuring two places at entirely opposite ends of the continent at the same time should never be considered any kind of issue by us. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:10, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes, but as I said, the majority of Asia is unsuitable for featuring in summer for climatic reasons (which incidentally is why we see a disproportionate abundance of Asian destinations in the Northern Hemisphere fall and winter; this year's relative lack thereof is an anomaly). The Ottoman Empire at its height stretched as far east as Iran and the Caucasus, we already have a Chinese feature, and anywhere south of there is a no-go for the summer. Among regions for which we have Guide-level articles, what other than Russia is left? Japan, which we've seen plenty of on the Main Page in recent years (Kurashiki, Kyoto, Taketomi, Nagoya) and what else? Not much as far as I can see. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 04:16, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
I get your point. What else there is, I would say, would be primarily hill stations and mountainous areas. There are actually a fair number of them. We featured Shimla some time ago, for example. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:23, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Parenthetically, "convergence" referred to those two destinations converging on the schedule into relative proximity to one another and to a hypothetical additional Asian feature, not to any presumed cultural or geographical redundancy between them. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 04:33, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Needs work — André already brought up most things that need to be fixed in the article. In addition several prices given as per 2008, so everything in the article should probably be checked up.
And yes, summer in Northern Hemisphere usually means rain in the tropics north of the Equator (the same goes for Austral summer in the southern tropics) and the during that time of the year places like the Arabian desert are only for hardcore fans of hot weather. So viable Asian places to visit during Jun-Sep probably amount to Russia, some of Central Asia, some of East Asia, and then places in the southern tropics like most of Indonesia. --ϒpsilon (talk) 17:43, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
BTW I came up with an alternative to this one, see #Piton de la Fournaise below. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:14, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Slush? ϒpsilon (talk) 20:09, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
André? (also, see #Venice's nomination above, probably that one should also be slushed when we're at it) ϒpsilon (talk) 14:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Why the push to slush? Just because we didn't feature Yuryev-Polsky this year doesn't mean we can't feature it next year. Also, Venice is already on the schedule for September, with several months remaining in which its problems can be ironed out. (And please don't underestimate the possibility of that; Underground Railroad is a great example of an article that went from extremely problematic to feature-ready in a short period of time. Thanks go to K7L for his efforts, BTW.) -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 14:49, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Almost. The fact that this whole article doesn't have one coordinate marker almost immediately gave me doubts about it. Also, it would be nice if see and do had some listings beside man-made structures. The understand and get in section seem to make this article okay until you realize that the article only has one picture, excluding the banner. Selfie City (talk) 23:59, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment: I should mention that Andre's statement "Though this article appears to be a more-or-less straight translation of its analogue on ru: and there's little if anything more to be gleaned from translating from there" is not true. The Russian article has been re-worked based on the recent on-the-ground research, and there is a lot to learn from it, should anyone be interested. --Alexander (talk) 16:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Kamphaeng PhetEdit

Place: Kamphaeng Phet
Blurb: Otherwise known for ancient walls, forts, temple ruins and Buddha statues, Thailand's "banana capital" holds a ten-day festival to promote its sweet and aromatic fruit. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: September preferred, but could be anytime
Nominated by: RJFF (talk) 21:47, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Comment: Worth visiting, but little frequented. The banana festival in September is Thailand's longest provincial fair.

Nomination


  • Support, but what's with the non-standard "Nearby" section? That's not how we handle that kind of thing. Those listings need to be merged into either "See"/"Do" or "Go next". -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 03:35, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
A "Nearby" section is explicitly proposed in the guideline WV:Region article template ("If something is in a tiny rural village too small to justify its own local article, (...) adding a section 'Nearby' in an adjacent city article (before the 'Go next' section).") and also explained in WV:Article templates/Sections#Nearby. "Go next" should only include places that have their own article (but these scattered, rural destinations do not warrant articles of their own), while I find it confusing to place points that are up to 65 km off the main city under the "See"/"Do" sections. To me, the "Nearby" section seems to be the perfect solution for this case. --RJFF (talk) 11:52, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
I argued with another user a few months back about this Nearby section, which apparently is real. Yes, if an attraction is far outside the city it's misleading to put it in the city article's See or Do section (perhaps then in the surrounding region's See or Do). But given that very few articles in practice have it, it does look strange and out of place and I think Nearby should be a subsection of Go next instead it's own section.
  • Support. My instinct is to think the "Nearby" section should be merged to "See"/"Do", but I don't feel strongly about that at all. —Granger (talk · contribs) 12:21, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support — I don't really have anything to complain about, save for the Nearby section which I think should be a subsection of Go next. ϒpsilon (talk) 14:45, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support. I agree with Granger and AndreCarrotflower that the "Nearby" section should be removed and its content put somewhere else, but it's otherwise a well-formatted article with plenty of useful information that will be good as an OtBP. Selfie City (talk) 02:06, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Is this one going to sit here until September 2019 (as per time to feature)? In that case, I believe we'll need one more nominee for one of the spring months 2019. ϒpsilon (talk) 18:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
I had indeed envisioned this for September 2019. We actually need two more spring 2019 OtBPs - April and June (leaving room for Gaspé Peninsula in August) - as well as DotMs for May 2019 (I have one in mind for May that I'll be nominating shortly), July 2019, and everything past September 2019. Oddly enough, we've come to a point now where FTTs are pretty consistently the most well-stocked of the three categories. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 18:54, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
The nice Bouzigues article TT has been working on is one that I'd really really like to see as OtBP; maybe next spring :). Ilulissat is another one (per Wikivoyage_talk:Destination_of_the_month_candidates#Unfeatured_regions), though at the moment we have quite many OtBP candidates from North America.
For DotM, Kaunas is one article I've had my eyes on for several years (yes I know, there's currently a ton of European DotM candidates, but over the years we've had surprisingly few DotMs from Europe east of the former Iron Curtain). Kaunas could work as OtBP too. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Letchworth State ParkEdit

Place: Letchworth State Park
Blurb: Upstate New York's "Grand Canyon of the East", where the Genesee River tumbles over a trio of spectacular waterfalls, preserved through the generosity of a prominent 19th-century industrialist. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Oct; as a popular "leaf peeping" destination, Sep or Oct would be especially ideal
Nominated by: AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:30, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Comment: Originally I had hoped to feature a Buffalo district as OtBP in summer 2019, two years after Historic Churches of Buffalo's East Side's stint as FTT. But given the scope of what needs to happen to those articles between now and then - updates to weed out closed businesses and add listings to new ones, shortening lengthy blurbs, and possibly further subdividing the articles themselves, not to mention wrapping up the Gaspé Peninsula project at the same time - any such feature will likely have to wait until 2020. Here's a good article to run in its stead.

Nomination


  • Support as nominator. I'm interested in hearing the thoughts of Powers, the article's principal author. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:30, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Almost: any issues can most likely be fixed before this is featured. This article should be more helpful to the traveler before being turned into an OtBP. For example, the climate subsection is completely empty, buy, eat, and drink should have more content, and only the sleep section has any coordinate markers. A good article needs plenty of coordinate markers, especially for attractions like this one, so people know exactly where the attractions can be found. The good thing is that the lack of coordinates is an easily problem to solve and can be easily done before this is featured. When we've fixed the coordinate issues, we should also add a dynamic map (that's what they're called, right?) so tourists get a better idea about the place. Still, it looks like a really nice place for Off the Beaten Path. Selfie City (talk) 18:33, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Selfie City - the reason why "Buy", "Eat", and "Drink" don't have more content is because there isn't much content to add in the first place. State parks aren't shopping or nightlife meccas; what more do you feel needs to be said about the few unremarkable gift shops within the park boundaries? As for "Eat", the Glen Iris Inn is a renowned fine-dining restaurant, but we have a policy of not double-listing the same establishment in multiple different sections, so all the information is in "Sleep". As for the coordinate markers, policy says they're not required in articles with static maps (which include the markers directly on the image file, making coordinates redundant). However, I agree with you that this particular static map is pretty useless and we'd do well to jettison it in favor of a dynamic one, which would entail adding coordinates to the listings. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:03, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
I've solved some of the problems by merging eat and drink - however, more information about the Basics would be useful. Also, I understand that coordinates are not required for articles, but I still think they're extremely useful to the traveler and should be included in any one of our featured destinations. Selfie City (talk) 16:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Very close...heck, I'll say support right away. Adding someting to the climate section and coordinates to the couple of listings that still lack them (it can be useful even if there isn't an embedded dynamic map in the article; readers can click on the icons and open one), and perhaps a photo in the end of the article are things that anyone can do in a couple of minutes. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:01, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Support, with the additions of a climate section and one or two more photos showing off the landscape. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:23, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Great Basin National ParkEdit

Place: Great Basin National Park
Blurb: Ironically considering its name, this mountainous national park includes juniper forests, caves, a gorge, and the great Wheeler Peak, one of Nevada's highest mountains. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-Oct; particularly Apr-Jun or September
Nominated by: Selfie City (talk)
Comment: I think it could do with a little work that I can mostly likely do in expanding some sections, but at the same time not a lot more can be said. What's existing in the article is what is there, so I think in general this article is pretty complete and would definitely be appropriate for OtBP. I was originally going to do somewhere else but I think this one will work well, actually.

Nomination


  • Support as nominator. Selfie City (talk) 02:03, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment: Due to how many OtBP candidates are already waiting in the wings (and how many of those are U.S. destinations), there'll be no room for this one on the Main Page till 2020 at the earliest. Let's hold off on any additional OtBP nominees for awhile. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 02:35, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, sure. Selfie City (talk) 14:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Very close – some listings need coordinates and some of Understand's subsections could perhaps be expanded. --ϒpsilon (talk) 09:29, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

IlulissatEdit

Place: Ilulissat
Blurb: Iceberg spotting doesn't get much better than in this colorful town on the shore of Greenland's Disko Bay, home to almost as many sled dogs as people. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: As close to midsummer as possible.
Nominated by: AndreCarrotflower (talk) 01:49, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Comment: I once remarked that "I would love to see somewhere in Greenland on the Main Page", and wouldn't you know it, a year later we have a viable candidate (and one remaining Summer 2019 schedule slot to fill)!

Nomination


  • Support as nominator. Looks reasonably ready, but there are a few listings in the "Do" section (Arctic Adventure and Sports Centre Ilulissat) that lack descriptions. Also, are we sure all the tours listed in the "Tour companies" section are value-added? --AndreCarrotflower (talk) 01:49, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support. There are a few redlinks and the "Understand" section could be better, but I think we can do it for a particularly off-the-beaten-path DOTM. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 05:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support as the one who polished up the article a little while ago. ϒψιλον (talk) 21:28, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support. Just needs descriptions for those last couple of "Do" listings and it looks ready. —Granger (talk · contribs) 08:21, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Norfolk IslandEdit

Place: Norfolk Island
Blurb: This former South Sea penal colony is a great destination for relaxation and history buffs. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Per w:Norfolk_Island#Climate, Sep-Feb has less than 15 rain days/month on average
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 17:27, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Comment: An OtBP for late 2019, maybe? The article has been thoroughly edited this year, so it shouldn't be too outdated. Many listings needed coordinates, but I just took care of that.

Nomination

PakseEdit

Place: Pakse
Blurb: Pakse features lively markets and a few Buddhist sites but is above all a starting point for visits to the amazing natural and historical sites in the region. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Nov-Apr
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 20:02, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Siem Reap is DotM as I'm writing this, and like Cambodia, we've also featured few articles from Laos (compared to Southeast Asia generally). So as of lately I've polished up this article, including adding coordinates and removing places that don't seem to be in business any longer (you all know the drill, I think...).

The article still includes many prices that apparently are fairly old, but as you can read at the talk page it's surprisingly hard to update them. Not sure if we should just delete them or leave them in. Anyways, as the article is in a better shape than a week or so ago, I thought I'd nominate it now.

Nomination
  • Support? -- ϒψιλον (talk) 20:02, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Generally, it's fine, but I think the "Go next" section could be better organized and perhaps shorter. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 04:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

OlomoucEdit

Place: Olomouc
Blurb: Originally named after Julius Caesar, this undiscovered gem of the Czech Republic is packed with historical monuments. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 18:23, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Central Europe outside Germany and Switzerland is another part of the world that gets very little time on the Main Page compared to the number of visitors, and as such this is a perfect replacement for Igls. This is also our very first Czech feature. The article was already a guide, and the See section looked great and I added a couple of listings from the it-WV, so here it is.

Nomination
  • Support -- ϒψιλον (talk) 18:23, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - lovely old place, wish I could have stayed longer. Grahamsands (talk) 21:50, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Almost - It is a great city, which I visited a long time ago. The See section looked good. There is no Buy section, which is an omission for a city of this size, and Sleep could have a couple more listings. The rail and bus fares need to be checked as they were the same in 2013. AlasdairW (talk) 23:01, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Like AlasdairW, I vote almost. I also agree that there ought to be a section with information about buying souvenirs, and there are not enough options for where to sleep. I think the adjustments can be made if someone knows the area or can translate it from another language wiki, but unfortunately in its current state the article just doesn't have quite enough options and information in some parts. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:14, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Jost Van DykeEdit

Place: Jost Van Dyke
Blurb: The smallest of the main British Virgin Islands and the home of the painkiller drink is a great place for doing pretty much nothing! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Nov-May to avoid the hurricane season
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 13:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Caribbean is another well-touristed corner of the world that we rarely feature anything from. Though JVD is most definitely an OtBP destination as it has neither an airport nor a cruise harbor. As you can see on its talk page I found this as a pretty good usable article and used all the tricks in the book to improve the article. Everything about this little island should be in the article now.

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Jeffreys BayEdit

Place: Jeffreys Bay
Blurb: Famous from the 1960s surfing movie Endless Summer, Jeffreys Bay is packed with white beaches and fun activities. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any per nearby w:Port_Elizabeth#Climate, but my intention was to find something to fill a Northern Hemisphere winter OtBP slot with...
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 13:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Comment: This guide article was a bit of a mess and much information was from years ago. A complete checkup later it looks good for the Main Page, I think. Also, we haven't featured any destination articles from South Africa since 2007 (and this will be our 3rd feature from there).

Nomination

Nominations for Featured travel topicEdit

Vikings and the Old NorseEdit

Place: Vikings and the Old Norse
Blurb: The Old Norse were the ancestors of Scandinavians. The most famous were the Vikings; sailors who ventured around Europe and across the Atlantic in the 8th to 11th centuries. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: April-September. Preferrably June/July or July/August, as most outdoor events take place in summer.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 04:54, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Comment: The article has grown over time, and now has an impressive history section, and a long list of destinations.

Nomination


  • Comment: It's interesting and likely to get my vote, but a quick read of the first few paragraphs demonstrated to me that this article is going to need to be edited with a fine-toothed comb, for both clarity and standard, clear English. I think the editing will take a while, but the content certainly looks to be there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:09, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Almost Otherwise a good article, though I would imagine there'd be a some more places in Iceland and Norway worth listing. --ϒpsilon (talk) 10:40, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
  • In addition to the relative dearth of Icelandic and Norwegian POIs pointed out by Ypsilon, it's strange that the article simply ends abruptly after the lengthy list of "Locations". If there nothing to say in the realm of "Stay safe"? No "Related topics" to delve into? -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 17:29, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Support, can't tell if the article needs copyediting, but it's probably better to let native English speakers take care of that :). I recently added a stash of destinations in Norway and Iceland, and a See also section with some links. For Stay safe; well the Nordic countries are nowadays some of the safest in the world so I don't really know what to add. If the problems many users have pointed out with the Underground Railroad article aren't resolved, here is a spare article. ϒpsilon (talk) 05:52, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Support. After scanning through this article, it has plenty of good images and a lot of listings of places like L'Anse Aux Meadows where Viking remains and reconstructions can be found. This definitely ought to be a Featured Travel Topic at some point. Selfie City (talk) 13:44, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm belatedly noticing the additions Ypsilon made some months ago, and now I feel I can support this candidate. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:40, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Rail travel in the NetherlandsEdit

Place: Rail travel in the Netherlands
Blurb: Having said farewell to paper tickets several years ago, the efficient Dutch rail network may very well be the example for the future of rail travel. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any time but December, preferably around September 20th, 2019 (180th anniversary).
Edit: I understand that September 2019 may cause problems. Other dates of importance in the upcoming five years are:

  • December 2018; Sprinter Nieuwe Generatie put in service (same issue; too soon).
  • Early 2021; Intercity Nieuwe Generatie put in service.
  • In general, September is my preferred month for featuring since the anniversary of the Dutch railway network is in that month. March of 2022 is also fine by me (182½ year anniversary).
  • August 2021; 25 years since the first concession of the Dutch railways.

I am well aware that the feature date doesn't need to have a reason behind it, but I recon it might as well. Don't limit yourself to the dates above, but rather consider them.
Nominated by: Wauteurz (talk) 14:22, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Comment: The article may need some touching up here and there as most information in the article has come from me, but content-wise I believe that nothing is missing and the article is therefore a good candidate for FTT.

Nomination


I should say, though, this is an exceptionally good article and I support its eventually being run as a feature. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:18, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
I don't think there is a problem to run Rail travel in Germany perhaps already in August 2018, especially as RtiG is a topic and not a place. In that way this could be featured in September 2019 as desired, "only" 20 months from now. ϒpsilon (talk) 18:12, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Support — I've noticed you working on this one over the last several months and it's looking very informative. At least at a quick glance I can't really find anything wrong with it. ϒpsilon (talk) 18:17, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Minor language and possible "nerding out" issues (for which I am the wrong person to judge them) aside, there is nothing to preclude my support for this feature and thanks to Wauteurz for some amazing work. As the user who nominated rail travel in Germany, I would have no qualms moving it around if this article could then be featured on a date that fits better. Just please don't feature either in December, as that is the European schedule change. Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak Support, some essential details need finetuning - the article is thoroughly written but some of the more practical information is not entirely spot on, i.e. information about gates is too general, there is no information present about the surcharge for tickets purchased at the counter, no correct information present about the cost if you check in and check out after a certain time at the same station, information about opening train doors and onboard announcements is very specific to some of the rolling stock but wrong for others. In general, quite a large part of the article is written towards railway enthousiasts with a lot of technical details, but less towards the average tourist who travels on the train for the first time in the Netherlands. --WallyTheWalrus (talk) 23:42, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Support, although there are some issues with red links. Selfie City (talk) 04:26, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Can you elaborate on 'issues with redlinks' so that I can fix it? I am aware that I've left a few (somewhere around ten) redlinks in the article, and I would assume the issue is them being linked to in the first place?
-- Wauteurz (talk) 15:29, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Rail_travel_in_the_Netherlands#Expansion_and_boom is one example, but there are several parts of the article that seem to abound in red links. Also, I'm not crazy about red-colored listings. Selfie City (talk) 22:44, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Magellan-Elcano circumnavigationEdit

Place: Magellan-Elcano circumnavigation
Blurb: 500 years ago, five ships and 270 men left Seville to go where no other European explorers had sailed before. One ship with 18 men aboard made it back in 1522, completing the first round-the-world journey in history. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Jul, Aug or Sep 2019 to celebrate the half millenium since the start of this journey
Nominated by: ϒpsilon (talk) 20:02, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Comment: I started this little project back in 2016, already then looking to bring it up to guide status until 2019. Per a little discussion on the article's talk page, I just added the Magellan-related attractions along the route the modern day voyager can visit, and can't come to think of much else to add to the article. You can read about Magellan's journey, and there's advice for getting from place to place and what you can see at each point in the itinerary.

Nomination
I think the problem described at Talk:Magellan-Elcano_circumnavigation#Verb_tenses needs fixing before it is featured. Pashley (talk) 15:13, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Support, especially if we put it all in past tense. Selfie City (talk) 00:19, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Support per Selfie City. I just did some copy editing. Capitalization was a problem, but I think I may have gotten all the stray "River"s and "Hill"s that were part of proper names (and the "strait" that wasn't). I definitely think everything that happened in the past should be recounted in past tense, both because it's more intuitive and to make a stronger contrast with present-tense advice on current-day travel. I made some progress toward that, but more needs to be done if everyone is OK with putting the past in the past. I hope some of the things that are presumed ("you can probably take a bus/boat to X") are confirmed before the article is run. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:53, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
  • See also my comments at #Metro_Cebu above about featuring that article around the 500th anniversary of his visit there, April 2021. Pashley (talk) 22:57, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Seinfeld TourEdit

Place: Seinfeld Tour
Blurb: Like Kramer's hapless customers in "The Muffin Tops", you too can see all the real-life locations featured in the "show about nothing". (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: June 2019 to coincide with the 30th anniversary of the first broadcast of the pilot episode on NBC (1989-07-05)
Nominated by: AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:25, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Now that this article is on the schedule, I guess it's time to formally nominate it.

Nomination
  • Support, pending the improvements outlined at Talk:Seinfeld Tour#To-do list for bringing this article to Guide status. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:25, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Conditional support - I'm confident you will make those additions, but it's undeniable that most of your suggestions would be an improvement so ought to be in place before featuring.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:10, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Conditional support As always when there are several contributors (Andre, Ikan, ARR8, ויקיג'אנקי...) that are much more knowledgeble about a topic or place than myself, I'll support it when you will. ϒψιλον (talk) 17:34, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Condition support ARR8 (talk | contribs) 23:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Not to seem blunt, but I oppose until it reaches guide status. When it reaches guide status, I plan to comment here with a different vote (I will put the page on my watchlist). --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:44, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
SelfieCity, this article is now at Guide status. Would you care to update your vote? -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 03:45, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Support as promised. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 04:09, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - Very impressive guide with star potential, IMO. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:41, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

The CanadianEdit

Place: The Canadian
Blurb: Through forests and mountains across Canada, the Canadian is one of the world's great rail journeys (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: because travel topics are featured late in the month: May-Sep
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 19:43, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Comment: As it in the nomination of Roman Empire (which itself still isn't safe from getting slushed) was mentioned that "many other upcoming FTT candidates that need a great deal of work before being featureable - Judaism [slushed], Jazz, LGBT travel for example - it's probable that at least one of them won't get the required fixes in time and will need to be slushed", I figured it could be good to have a spare topic article for one of the spring/summer months.

What's more, Gaspé Peninsula together with its subarticles was mentioned as a possible OtBP candidate for August, but two weeks before August's articles will show up in the schedule, it's not nominated and many subarticles aren't up to the superb standards Andre likes to bring up the articles to ;) . So I've nominated Igls as an alternative for August's OtBP, but as this also will mean there's nothing from Canada next summer, (should one of the articles above need to be slushed) there's room for this interesting train itinerary!

Across Canada by train that considerably overlaps this article was FTT in June 2013, would that be a problem? We have featured cities and individual district articles from the same city so it shouldn't.

Nomination


  • Almost The article lacks a good description of what you can see on the route between the stops, which the WP article has. in a way the article is too focussed on the facilities and not he journey. AlasdairW (talk) 23:41, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. Nice, detailed article. However, I plan to review User:AlasdairW's point. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:46, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Comment: I have quickly looked through the article more closely and, considering how beautiful the route is, I think some more information about sights to see (while on the train) would be good. Otherwise, looks like a good article. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
OK, I'll have a look at what's written about the route over at Wikipedia; probably there is a great deal to bring over from there. For the record, I think this article was modeled after the Trans-Siberian Railway whose article also focuses on the train itself and major stops. ϒψιλον (talk) 18:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Probably, that's accurate. And, interestingly, that one's a guide article too, so maybe some day it too could be FTT. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:18, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
The Transsib was, back in 2014. Articles that have the little orange pen logo in the upper right corner of the banner have been FTT at some point in the past (just as those that have the green check mark have been DotM or OtBP). ϒψιλον (talk) 09:33, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment The route description from Wikipedia is now imported. It did take a little while, especially as Wikipedia's description was written from Vancouver to Toronto (opposite direction of our guide until now) and the content included references, links to articles etc. What's more, some "smart" person(s) at WP had used imperial units at several occasions for mountain altitudes and bridges at least, but I'll deal with that later. ϒψιλον (talk) 21:37, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International AirportEdit

Place: Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport
Blurb: The busiest airport in the world, some say "It doesn't matter whether you go to heaven or hell—to get there, you will have to connect through Atlanta." (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 09:59, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Time to put another airport article on the FTT nomination list, here's one of our best ones. Thanks to Bigpeteb for updating the article as of lately.

Nomination
Airport articles are always FTT. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. I have read through and made a couple of suggestions for improvement at the talk page.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:48, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Just a side-note (my computer is a bit kablooey at the moment which means I can't give it a thorough enough read to weigh in) there is still a VfD discussion on the talk page that we could move to an archive page... Hobbitschuster (talk) 00:13, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

HotelsEdit

Place: Hotels
Blurb: Most travellers are familiar with staying at hotels, though there might still be some quirks you haven't heard about before checking out our guide. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 14:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Always good to have at least one global topic in the FTT nominations that can be featured anytime and together with any other articles (just like Common scams which replaced Judaism on a short notice). I upgraded this very strong usable article to guide and added some pictures. Should be good to go.

Nomination
  • Support as nominator. ϒψιλον (talk) 14:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Very close; the section that lists notable hotel chains ought to have some descriptions and probably should mention Best Western, Motel 6, Super 8, etc. Or maybe it's the kind of list we shouldn't have at all. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:17, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Best Western is mentioned in Hotels#International_chains, and Super 8 and Motel 6 are motels so they're listed in that article. -- ϒψιλον (talk) 18:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm a little curious — why are there chains listed under the Hotels#Hotel types section? (Thanks for the response, though; I understand better now — sort of...) --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:05, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
As examples it seems, not sure if they need to be there, though. ϒψιλον (talk) 19:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Almost I think it covers large modern chain hotels quite well, but has little about the 10 room family run hotel in a 300 year old building. AlasdairW (talk) 22:28, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Good point, so the inns, boutique hotels, and grand old hotels sections need to be expanded (though many small family-run hotels could also be classified as Bed and breakfasts, which we have a separate article for). -- ϒψιλον (talk) 19:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment In summary to the above, I think maybe the article could do with a little organization in some places, I guess that's my point. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:15, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment: I don't feel up to reading through this entire article, at least not now, but what in the heck is this supposed to mean? "Hotel rooms constitute a separate moral universe." I've speculated a bit at Talk:Hotels#Quote, but I would suggest deleting that quote. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:21, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Driving in BrazilEdit

Place: Driving in Brazil
Blurb: Driving is often the best way to get around Brazil, but from road signs to fuel and safety issues, there are some things you need to know before hitting the road. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any (for each month there are some parts of Brazil where it's dry season and other parts where it rains)
Nominated by: ϒψιλον (talk) 18:46, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Comment: I've been thinking about nominating this one for some time. We haven't had "Driving in..." articles on the Main Page that often, moreover it would only be the second South American FTT. Per my comment at the talk page, I think the article describes all the issues a driving guide article should, otherwise I think Ibaman is happy to help filling in missing info.

Nomination

French phrasebookEdit

Place: French phrasebook
Blurb: Parlez-vous français? Nearly 300 million people do, on every inhabited continent on the globe, making it one of the most useful languages for the international traveller to know. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any, but no earlier than January 2020 (1 year after Indonesian phrasebook's Main Page stint)
Nominated by: AndreCarrotflower (talk) 21:37, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Comment: It's been a while since we've featured a phrasebook article for a language with an extensive international reach. Let's remedy that.

Nomination


  • Not yet but very close, and I can easily take care of the needed work myself if there are no other takers. Namely, a few pseudo-pronunciations are missing, and after looking over the ones that do exist, I don't know about their accuracy overall. A few more pictures would be nice too. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 21:37, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Almost, some phrases in French_phrasebook#Bars (perhaps elsewhere in the article too) still need pronunciation. And much more photos, as our featured phrasebooks usually have a photo for at least every second screen to make them look less black and white, but these should be easy to add. --Ypsilon (talk) 10:20, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

VisaEdit

Place: Visa
Blurb: The more different the destination country is from your own, the longer you stay and the more you'd like to do, the more likely you'll need a visa. Check out our guide to learn about this travel document. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 10:27, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Comment: One more FTT that can be featured any time of the year. With the small personal experience I have with visas, I'd say everything is in the article, and as such I promoted it to guide a while ago. If you know anything important is missing, feel free to add it.

Nomination
  • Support as nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 10:27, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Along the Magnificent MileEdit

Place: Along the Magnificent Mile
Blurb: Let us take you on a tour through the heart of Chicago! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Star (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-Oct (from Bronzeville's nomination)
Nominated by: ϒpsilon (talk) 18:32, 1 October 2017 (UTC) and renominated by AndreCarrotflower (talk) 02:52, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Comment: In 2020 it will be time again for our biannual visit to Chicago. I figured it would be good to dust off this Star-level itinerary that ϒpsilon had nominated a couple years ago, but was slushed to avoid being featured too close to Chicago/Bronzeville, then an OtBP candidate. Since the article hasn't been substantially edited in the intervening period, I also don't see any need to disregard the votes in the earlier nomination, though if Ypsi or Ikan would like to change their minds about the worthiness of the feature, they're of course welcome to do so.

Nomination


  • Support --ϒpsilon (talk) 18:32, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Support. One question: With the exception of illumination and perhaps drinks at night, couldn't the itinerary be done in reverse? Should that be noted in the article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:15, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Support, though if we're going to take a candidate that by next summer will have waited over a year to be featured and make it wait two more years in favor of a different nominee from the same city that's not of significantly higher quality, I'd prefer it to be for more compelling reasons than the above. Especially since we do still have an open OtBP slot next summer for the likes of Apia. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 22:46, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
OK, so then it's probably best to impound this one in the Slush pile like we did with London Hampstead once. ϒpsilon (talk) 10:16, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment - a little before we run this, we should check that everything is still open. Also there are some prices in the article so they too need to be updated. Ypsilon (talk) 07:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Support because it is a star article. Will put the page on my watchlist in case star status is removed. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:36, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Almost I was in Chicago 2 years ago and visited most of the sights, but I didn't follow the route turn by turn, as I had other commitments. I think that the route would work fine in reverse, with the exception of splashing in the fountains in Millennium Park, which is more something for the end of a walk. The article hasn't had any major updates for 10 years, and might be starting to show it's age - telling the reader to print out the district articles, and the sights are not markers or listings. The map is also 10 years old, and without any markers or geo there is no opportunity to see a dynamic map instead. AlasdairW (talk) 23:03, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
If this article is not good enough for FTT, its star status needs to be reconsidered. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:08, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
I think the map is great and definitely wouldn't be improved by using a dynamic map! I also think the bolding makes it easy to read the itinerary, so that listings aren't really necessary. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)