Talk:Tromsø

Latest comment: 3 years ago by LPfi in topic Northern lights

This place is refered to as both Tromsø and Tromso. So I moved Tromsø to Tromso because ø is not English, meaning Tromso is the most common English name spelling. -- (WT-en) Huttite 23:37, 2 Jul 2005 (EDT)

'Hey! The official name of the city is Tromsø. Tromso is just something you write if you can't find your ø.

“Breaking” a page

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Hi! Tromsø was my first edit ever on Wikivoyage, and there was a header saying: WARNING: This page is 53 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. I then hesitated to do more, add infos… According to which guidelines can we (I) break a page into smaller sections. I didn't find round here examples that could help.

Otherwise, I couldn't manage to do with the usual
and others. I am totally unable to understand this kind of things, may you please explain this to me in daily language.

Thank you forward for your help (takk på forhånd for hjelpen). (WT-en) ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko 12:50, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

I've never had a problem with Internet Explorer handling the long pages. I believe that "breaking" refers to editing one section at a time. Click "edit" next to the Do or See section instead of the Edit tab at the top. We do not use HTML here, so avoid /br etc. -(WT-en) OldPine 13:37, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for your edits. Feel free to ignore that message. It is a relic of times when some browsers had problems editing large pages. There is really no need for the message anymore. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 13:43, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
I suppose that 53 kb is not a critical size. In other hand a huge page size is unpleasant for a users, who have low-speed internet connection (eg. dialup) or access Wikivoyage by a mobile devices. Personally i try to hold a page size smaller about 60-100 kb depending on number of pictures (this page size take into account only a text, no artwork). A example of article divided into part is Chicago. In any case a article content is above a technical issues. ;-) -- (WT-en) Sergey kudryavtsev 02:51, 10 June 2008 (EDT)


this article is written with an outstanding smart sense of humor..so i could not help laughing out loudly when reading the lines..

thank you whoever is/are the person(s) written the notes on parks, restaurants etc..

Trains

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I took the liberty to change some train info:

  • It is true that there is a train to Kolari in Northern Finland. But since there is no onward bus connection to Tromsø from there, is of no help that Kolari is slightly closer to Tromsø. Helsinki-Rovaniemi by train, with a corresponding bus to Tromsø (in summer) is a good idea. Left alone in Kolari is NOT.
  • The fact that there is a train to Nikel in Russia is of precious little help to most travellers. You still have to cross the border to Norway (with a Schengen visa), and then you have around 900km/600mi to Tromsø. The bus three times a week to Tromsø requires one overnight in Alta. (WT-en) LocoDelNorte

Festivals

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I hope someone can add some info about the festivals in Tromsø.

Images

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There are way too many images in this article. Should be cutback to the usual minimum. Please someone who knows Tromso do this. I think about 10 would be right. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 12:21, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

Why cut back on the images? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) LocoDelNorte (talkcontribs)
Because it looks cluttered and it's simply unnecessary. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 10:57, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
Indeed. Minimal use of images is also Wikivoyage policy. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

Wow, I lost count twice trying to count them all! They're all great but need to be cut down. My suggestions would be The arctic cathedral, Northern Lights, midnight sun, view from the cable car, a scene from the market, the traditional wooden buildings, plus possibly some festivals and harbor scenes. Many of the pictures are scenes from outside Tromso, I'm going to cut down on those in the meantime except for the Get Out section. Other suggestions would be awesome! (WT-en) hokiesvt 22:19, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

Vegetarian kafe

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There is actually a vegetarian kafe in Tromsø. Sivertsens kafekooperativ is located at Rådstua Teaterhus, Vestregata 48. It offers a small, but good and affordable meny. Opening hours are 12 to 17 each wednesday to saturday this summer. The facebook site is http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=1148490818&ref=ts g. Sivertsens kafekooperativ

Would you please plunge forward and add this to the article, perhaps formatted as a listing? – (WT-en) Vidimian 18:42, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
Since this seems like a useful information and as our friend seems to lost interest, I've plunged forward and added this to Tromsø#Eat. I've added it to "budget" subsection since it seems the right place, but I know nothing of neither the cafe nor the town, so anybody with local information, please feel free to move it to elsewhere. – (WT-en) Vidimian 10:59, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

Sami souvenir sellers

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@Ikan Kekek, Erik den yngre: A "Sami souvenirs sold by Sami people?" was changed to "... Sami people." I suppose the question mark was there to imply the sellers not necessarily being Sami. Misuse of Sami costumes is common in Finland, so I would not be surprised, but I don't know the situation in Norway, and nothing about this specific square.

If the question mark was there by intent, I suppose one should add a clarifying sentence.

--LPfi (talk) 13:24, 1 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Exactly. Adding a sentence with a confusing question mark is definitely not OK; therefore, I replaced it with a period, in the absence of any other information. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:32, 1 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
I removed reference to ethnicity. --Erik den yngre (talk) 12:29, 2 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. --LPfi (talk) 19:10, 2 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

PageRevision, keeping Tromsø Voyage Page up to date

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In the section /*Do*/ there's a list of concerts and festivals happening annually. This list also includes some expired event(s). Døgnvill was an outdoor festival that seized to exsist in 2013, but no longer being arranged. Some of the concerts that are still relevant for the list are:
  • Ordkalotten Festival of litterature Link to WP page in Norwegian - early November.
  • Insomnia - autumn
  • Rakettnatt - summerfestival (Not arranged in 2020 or 2021)
  • Nothern Lights Festival - winter

About the bars section under /*Drink*/

  • Flyt has undergone a renovation in "2021 CoVid-times" and has not been open to the public.
  • Heidi's Bier Bar is a bar that opened in Tromsø in 2018. The Norwegian Bar-brand moved into Storgata 4, and took moved to the place where the Rogers and Bloom had previously been.


There are other pieces such as an image on the site depicting places that no longer exist or have moved.
For the /*Sleep*/ part, current hotel prices are fairly easy to research, although the info there were written some years back and somethings are not up to date.

--Mathias -Ahoy (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Please plunge forward to updating the article. It is much easier to do for some one with knowledge of the destination. You also might understand Norwegian, which helps where information in English isn't readily available. –LPfi (talk) 13:07, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Article might be to extensive

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hello fellow editors of the english WikiVoyage, is it just me, or does the article covering Tromsø feel a bit extensive.

I have browsed through the guide Welcome, Wikipedians, which says about wikivoyage articles:

Wikivoyage is traveller-focused. We don't want immense, detailed articles about anything and everything. We don't create articles for every attraction or cross-roads on the globe. Articles in Wikivoyage are comprehensive references for travellers; subjects not directly or indirectly related to travel should be avoided.

—The preceding comment was added by Mathias -Ahoy (talkcontribs) 21 September 2021 12:51 (UTC)

@Mathias -Ahoy: I don't think the Understand is too extensive. The rest should be travelling related. A quick looks suggests that the prose could be a bit tighter and a few details could be left out, but there are no big chunks of garbage. Thus cutting down on unnecessary detail requires quite some work, best done when adding and adjusting also otherwise. I don't see extensiveness as a big problem here. –LPfi (talk) 13:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Plunge forward, although I have the same feelings as LPfi about the topic here. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 13:09, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
I don't think that what is covered here is excessive. Trimming the text to make it more concise could be worthwhile, but I don't see anything that should be left out. Ground Zero (talk) 13:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

eat

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One more step for the sake of keeping destination up to date. In other words, I have listed Egon Resturant, located on the west side of the Tromsoe Island. Needs a bit more details like what price to expect and opening hours. It located inside Jekta mall, with a size of housing over 100 stores. What politices does WikiVoyage have to copying reviews from sites like Tripadvisor. Just curious.--Mathias -Ahoy (talk) 19:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

From Wikivoyage:Listings#Compilation from external sources:
The description can be derived from an impression of the reviews that you have read, together with some facts from the official page, but you should not copy somebody else's words into Wikivoyage. Avoid listing establishments where the reviews are overly negative.
So don't copy, but you can try to get a sense of what the place is like from reading the reviews, and then describe by your own words the part you do trust.
LPfi (talk) 20:48, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yup, please write in your own words/paraphrase and Wikivoyage:Avoid negative reviews. Egon is a Norwegian mid-range chain restaurant and IMO a pretty good one (at least the Trondheim restaurant a few years ago) --Ypsilon (talk) 20:59, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Northern lights

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The intro now tells that Tromsø is "one of the best places to view the spectacular Northern Lights in winter". Is this truer? I'd think its coastal location would make overcast skies common, and the climate section of the Wikipedia article seems to support that suspicion. It might be a good choice for those that wouldn't want to give up on the comfort and options of a town, but if you are coming specifically to see northern lights and aren't afraid of cold and solitude, I believe Tromsø shouldn't be the first choice. I believe even Skibotn has much better viewing chances, and somewhere like Kautokeino would be my first suggestion. We can of course mention the lights, but farther on, where there is space for a discussion. –LPfi (talk) 18:06, 16 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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