Talk:Around the World in Eighty Days

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American steamship in 1866

What should we put here? I am in favor of everything but a hot air balloon (while it is mentioned in the book, it is rejected out of hand as a stupid idea as speed is the whole point) Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:03, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

The illustrations of the original novel are in the public domain; however, the resolution is poor. Could they be re-scanned? /Yvwv (talk) 21:15, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Illustrations_from_Around_the_World_in_Eighty_Days_by_Neuville_and_Benett

Even if we were to get them in a better resolution, I doubt they'd do much good, as they are rather dark... Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

A picture of a steamship or steam train of the 1870s era might fit, even if it doesn't reference the book directly? Another possibility would be to use an old map as background. K7L (talk) 03:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

While I personally like maps, both old and new, they might look somewhat like the default banner. Plus we already have and old map for another historic itinerary, Ruta del Tránsito. Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:26, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

1886 World Map

I have been wondering about creating a banner using this 1886 world map. The bottom border of the map is used in the banner for British Empire, and I think that something centred a little north of the equator might work here. The map is 14 years later than date of the journey, but I think that is close enough, and it is in (limited) colour so it should not look like the default. Any thoughts? AlasdairW (talk) 22:24, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

The only obvious clue that this map is the wrong year is the depiction of a trip across Canada by rail which likely wouldn't have been possible until 28 June 1886. It should be possible to crop this in such a way as to get UK and India to both just fit in the 7:1 frame. I'd say it will work, yes. K7L (talk) 23:45, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Has the speed of rail travel in the US improved since the 1870s?

Our text implicates that yes, it has. But given the slowness of Amtrak, I have serious doubts... Does anybody of you have numbers? Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:26, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

A steam train typically travelled at substantially less than 25 miles per hour. The 550km from Montréal to Toronto took 14 hours when the Grand Trunk mainline opened on October 27, 1856. Today, it takes six hours by motorcar (at 100 km/h) and a little less than that by train (at 70 mph - the railway never went metric). By that standard, California to NY in three and a half days is futuristic. K7L (talk) 01:16, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Well according to this the speed of 79 mph was well within reach of steam locomotives of the time. Though it was probably not (yet) frequently reached in daily operations just like the theoretic possibility of 400 km/h high speed rail is a long ways from revenue service today due to economic considerations. And most likely the track was not built for speed or even quality and more to get something there at all. The (slightly later) Transsiberian railroad was initially built with such sub-par tracks that even trains going at a walking pace were liable to derailments. I know the US did not cut that many corners, but they probably did not lay the best, most expensive tracks money could buy, either. Still, it kinda makes you wonder if a train that was built before the birth of the oldest human being on earth can attain speeds faster than are allowed in most of the Amtrak network... Hobbitschuster (talk) 01:33, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

w:Talk:Rail speed limits in the United States might be a possible place to ask? K7L (talk) 03:40, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

According to w:Around_the_World_in_Eighty_Days, the train journey in the book took 7 days. I'm assuming this fictitious journey used valid journey times for the period. I just selected a journey on the Amtrack website that leaves San Fransisco on Thursday morning (07:20) and arrives in New York Penn State at 16:50 on Sunday, taking a total of 3.5 days (and there may well be faster journies as well).

Therefore travel by train for that journey is certainly at least twice at fast today as it is described in the book. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:45, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

According to an 1869 timetable San Francisco to New York took 7 days on the daily train or 6 days on an express that left on Mondays. For further rail information of the era track down an Appleton's Guide, or a Bradshaws for UK and Europe. AlasdairW (talk) 00:41, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Montréal to BC was no better when first inaugurated in 1886, 6 days 16 hours to cover 4580km or so, per w:Canadian Pacific Railway#1886–1900. That'd be an average 17.8 miles per hour. Leave Montreal 8 pm on 28 June 1886 to arrive at Port Moody at noon on 4 July 1886. Of course there were no airlines to lose your luggage back then. K7L (talk) 00:21, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Kholby?

Some of the place names in the book are spurious for the elephant trip in India? http://nwhyte.livejournal.com/1013784.html suggests that "Kholby" might be either some other town (Kothi? Karwi?), a fiction or a mistake. Odd, as the story's geography is otherwise fairly plausible. K7L (talk) 12:22, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

I believe it was indeed a misreading of the town name Kothi, though whilst it may be 80 miles (rather than 50) away from Allahabad and 12 (rather than 15) north of the railway station in Satna, (which may be Rothal). Granted, it may not be perfect, but based on the knowledge of India in the 1800s and the fact that Verne's book was again still a work of fiction and not an iternary for people in the 21st century to make a Wikivoyage Article about, I think it may be the closest we can get. --Dylan Smithson (talk) 16:54, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Some form of protection?

Apparently we have one or several people who wish to wreak havoc on this article. Should we enable some form of protection from anonymous spam and vandalism? Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:14, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Not needed. The obvious action hadn't been taken. There's no need to specially protect an article from a single IP user. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Film versions

For example in the 1956 version itinerary variated including Marseille and Caracas.--Neurorebel (talk) 01:43, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Youtube video

The Youtube channel Atlas Pro [1] tried to re-create Fogg's journey today. /Yvwv (talk) 22:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Press coverage

Please see Wikivoyage:Press_coverage#2022. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 03:35, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Nice one. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:12, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I just noticed a mention again in this week's quiz and checked back on the week before last. The author seems to be following our itinerary markers on order. I expect to see a mention of Brindisi in next week's quiz. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 00:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Looking at the page view stats of this itinerary about the past 7 years, there is a clear increase in page views since late December 2021. That was before February when the quizzes were released to the public, so I'm guessing it was the author reading the guide a month or two earlier which led to the bump. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be an increase in February compared to January. It doesn't help that the spelling used is wrong. But maybe some regular quiz doers will constantly see "Wiki Voyage" and eventually become curious enough to look for us online and end up finding the wiki. Gizza ^(roam) 00:49, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

I expect that the main cause of the increase in page views is the w:Around the World in 80 Days (2021 TV series)

which started was on air in December and January. AlasdairW (talk) 15:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)