Antony-22

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Listings in Nassau County

Hello, Antony-22, and welcome!

Wikivoyage policy is to have specific listings in bottom-level articles (articles for cities [towns, villages, etc.]), not region articles like Nassau County. It would therefore be best if you would move the new listings to any city article that doesn't already have a listing for the attraction in question that's there.

Thanks a lot.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:54, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

By the way, you really might want to check if some of the listings you're currently adding to Nassau County already exist in articles for various towns or villages. I had been in the process of moving listings from the county article to the articles for what in Wikivoyage terms are called "cities" as a catchall, regardless of their official designation. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:31, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Sure, I'm happy to move the listings into the "city" articles once we figure out what those articles will be. Until then, I figure it's best to keep them in a central place temporarily. Antony-22 (talk) 22:48, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

But you may be creating unnecessary work for yourself if these listings already exist. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:49, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm familiar with the content of the subarticles. Most of them are completely empty or have a brief description with no points of interest listed. Antony-22 (talk) 18:25, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Village articles

Not sure about making some settlements districts of other towns. Districts is really intended for huge cities. Either keep them as separate city articles under the same county or merge the articles into one. Do not take administrative structures too literally in the hierarchy. If they are separate towns/villages by character or physically and appear so for a visitor then keep as separate city articles. If they are the same place today then merge the articles. --Traveler100 (talk) 22:00, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, some of these towns are large enough to count as districted cities. Hempstead has half a million people, and most cities that size are split into districts. On the other hand, Long Island contains something like 135 village-level jurisdictions, most of which are boring and shouldn't have articles anyway. My thinking is that clumps of a couple of adjacent villages are analogous to "district" articles, while the towns are analogous to "city" articles. This allows us to keep the 7±2 hierarchy rule.

Of course, as it stands the coverage of village-level articles is very inconsistent. We're trying to decide whether it's better to upmerge them to the town articles, divide the towns into districts more consistently, or just leave it as-is for now. Antony-22 (talk) 04:04, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

"This allows us to keep the 7±2 hierarchy rule." Are you referring to listings? Because that isn't true. Districted cities should not have templated listings. Please have a look at Wikivoyage:Huge city article template. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:44, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

No, it refers to number of subarticles, right? The articles are handled very inconsistently right now, I'm open to suggestions on how to clean it up. Antony-22 (talk) 04:58, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

OK, so the thing about that guideline is that it doesn't really apply to bottom-level regions. If there are 15 towns (villages, what have you) that merit their own article, and they're all in one reason, all of them are listed in the "Cities" list for that region. Subdividing that region could be considered but might not actually serve the traveler. But my problem right now is with templated listings in region (or, if you prefer, huge city) articles. They aren't supposed to be there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:36, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

The current state of affairs is that there are village-level articles for Garden City, Rockville Centre, and Merrick in Hempstead; Plainview, Bethpage, Farmingdale, and Massapequa in Oyster Bay; Northport in Huntington; Amityville in Babylon; Bay Shore in Islip; Stony Brook, Port Jefferson, and Mount Sinai in Brookhaven; Riverhead in Riverhead; Westhampton Beach in Southampton; and Montauk in East Hampton. Many of these fail the can you sleep there test, at least, and ought to be merged into their town articles. I'm happy to hear suggestions about which ones should be upmerged and which should be kept. Antony-22 (talk) 21:16, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

My knowledge of Long Island is spotty, or if you prefer, localized. Please make a proposal. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:30, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Suffolk County (New York)

I have undone the change of Amityville to a district. Huge cities are usually used when the article is very large, Babylon (town, New York) is still a small article and is not really only a large town. The articles should be separate city articles or merged into one. --Traveler100 (talk) 08:47, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

There are also a good number of orphaned articles in that county that need to be added to the region page. --Traveler100 (talk) 08:50, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Arlington, VA "Districts" section

Hi, Antony. I'm glad you're back and editing!

A quick word about descriptions in "Districts": The basic idea of them is to have brief summaries, nothing close to exhaustive, and generally one or maybe a couple of sentences. See examples at Manhattan#Districts, Chicago#Districts, London#Districts. By comparison, I think some of the descriptions at Arlington (Virginia)#Districts are longer, and in particular, Rosslyn–Ballston Corridor and Crystal City might do with terser summaries.

I haven't been to Arlington unless landing at National Airport counts (and I think it doesn't), but I could try editing the descriptions for brevity if you like.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:11, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

I agree, I just copied the descriptions that were already there to start them for now. I'll rewrite them at some point in the course of splitting the article. Antony-22 (talk) 04:14, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Excellent. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:15, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Austin/UT and the Drag

That map was really not working for me in November. I don't know what changed (my browser certainly didn't), but it's working fine now and looks great... -- AnonMoos (talk) 03:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

New district article

For a city in Ohio, I notice you have created a new district. I am not concerned, but just to let you know, some editors may want a discussion before such an article is created. Just letting you know. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 02:58, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Kudos!

Thanks for the great work on Moorefield!

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome! Antony-22 (talk) 00:53, 12 September 2020 (UTC)