Wikivoyage talk:Past events/Tokyo 2020
Latest comment: 3 years ago by LPfi in topic Tokyo 2020
Tokyo Olympics
edit- Swept in from the pub
What do we usually do for the Olympics?
I could not find anything special about the 2012 London Olympics.
The main site for the Tokyo Olympics is an area of reclaimed islands, which is different from Tokyo/Odaiba, and for which Tokyo/Minato is probably too broad. By the way, the central Tokyo map shows it in an area called blueish-gray area which does not have a matching article. Nicolas1981 (talk) 07:43, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting question. The Brazil article doesn't even refer to the forthcoming Olympics, and the Rio de Janeiro article has only some high level references to them. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 09:45, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- Traditionally, all we've done is put an Olympics template on any bottom-level articles that have an Olympic venue. Template:Sochi2014 is the current one, but you can see how others like Template:London2012 were used in the article histories (example). LtPowers (talk) 14:10, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- We do have a general article for the Olympic Games which could be expanded, and there is also precedent for individual articles for events of a similar scale (see World Cup 2006, World Cup 2010, World Cup 2014, Expo 2005, Expo 2010). I think similar articles for Olympic Games 2014 etc. would be welcome. Texugo (talk) 15:24, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- There is an article London 2012, so I think that something like Tokyo 2020 ( or Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games 2020 but that is a bit of a mouthful) would be fine. I am also wondering if we should create Glasgow 2014 for the Commonwealth Games. AlasdairW (talk) 20:25, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- Just to correct Texugo's suggestion, a page would be called Olympic Games 2016, not 2014. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 08:46, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- Although there will be a Winter Olympics in 2014. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 08:47, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- I created the article Tokyo 2020. A map should be added using info form http://tokyo2020.jp/jp/plan/venue/ Nicolas1981 (talk) 10:20, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- I created Pyeongchang 2018 for the winter Olympics, since I was updated that region in South Korea anyhow. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 02:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- We have Olympic Games. Should the others be at Olympic Games/Tokyo2020 or some such? Pashley (talk) 13:17, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- I wondered that as well, although the article Olympic Games itself is not very clear in purpose right now, and simply links to Olympic cities.--Andrewssi2 (talk) 01:45, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
- Swept in from the pub
So... the Japanese government banned all spectators. I have just updated the banner and ticket information. But how should we proceed with the contents in the rest of the article? OhanaUnitedTalk page 14:33, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- According to FiveThirtyEight (scroll down), nearly 4 in 5 people in Japan support canceling or postponing the Olympics, so are we even sure this event will go ahead? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:42, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- I think we can be very sure that they're not going to cancel within a week of the Olympics being due to start. As for what should become of the article, we could think about adding places to watch the games (i.e. big screens in parks and what have you) in countries that are opening up, or we could just admit defeat and give up on trying to cover these games. Either way, all the venue and Japan-specific information probably needs to be removed if the article is going to stay in main space.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:54, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Even if the games were going ahead as normal, few would be planning their trip only one week before the start - I bought my tickets for London 2012 nearly a year before the games. I think we should keep the article and the list of venues. The Olympics will still be a major TV event and people may see coverage of a venue and think it would be nice to go there in 2024 (or 2030?). AlasdairW (talk) 15:10, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Can someone take a look at the hidden comment about copying the calendar from en.wp template? How does the command to remove the links work? OhanaUnitedTalk page 08:05, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Should the template be copied to the page (with links removed)? If there is consensus on that, the sed part should be easy. It looks like a valid regular expression, although I suppose there are sports with a blank (and perhaps other non-anticipated formats), which would fool it. There are also other things in the template, such as citation templates, which perhaps are easy to remove, but does that mean I misunderstood the hidden request? –LPfi (talk) 11:46, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- It's beyond my skill set, but if someone is willing to do it, I support. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 19:31, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- I recognize it's some sort of expression. But it's beyond my skill set to automate the process. OhanaUnitedTalk page 21:51, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- sed does the substitution line for line, for all lines ("g"= global). It is just sed -e "s/from/\1/g", with "from" a regular expression and "\1" the part of it in parenthesis (the thing after the pipe). If you have a Unix/Linux/POSIX command line, just paste the command, press enter, paste the template code, and you (should) get the tidied template on standard output. Make a similar RE for the citation templates (with d instead of s or "" instead of "\1", I suppose) and repeat the procedure. I'll do it in a few days unless somebody is quicker or doesn't want the template. –LPfi (talk) 06:20, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- It did not work out of the box. I ended up modifying the expression slightly for perl, and doing another for the refs. My perl is rusty also, but it worked, I hope. –LPfi (talk) 20:16, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- And now also the Paralympics' schedule is in place. This time I only needed to change "O" to "Para" in the RE, paste the source, paste the result, edit the intro lines and edit away the categories etc. from the end. –LPfi (talk) 12:18, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oops: a few redlinks remained: the opening, two sports with parentheses, one with hyphens, and a "n/e" template. –LPfi (talk) 12:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- And now also the Paralympics' schedule is in place. This time I only needed to change "O" to "Para" in the RE, paste the source, paste the result, edit the intro lines and edit away the categories etc. from the end. –LPfi (talk) 12:18, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- It did not work out of the box. I ended up modifying the expression slightly for perl, and doing another for the refs. My perl is rusty also, but it worked, I hope. –LPfi (talk) 20:16, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- sed does the substitution line for line, for all lines ("g"= global). It is just sed -e "s/from/\1/g", with "from" a regular expression and "\1" the part of it in parenthesis (the thing after the pipe). If you have a Unix/Linux/POSIX command line, just paste the command, press enter, paste the template code, and you (should) get the tidied template on standard output. Make a similar RE for the citation templates (with d instead of s or "" instead of "\1", I suppose) and repeat the procedure. I'll do it in a few days unless somebody is quicker or doesn't want the template. –LPfi (talk) 06:20, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- I recognize it's some sort of expression. But it's beyond my skill set to automate the process. OhanaUnitedTalk page 21:51, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- It's beyond my skill set, but if someone is willing to do it, I support. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 19:31, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Should the template be copied to the page (with links removed)? If there is consensus on that, the sed part should be easy. It looks like a valid regular expression, although I suppose there are sports with a blank (and perhaps other non-anticipated formats), which would fool it. There are also other things in the template, such as citation templates, which perhaps are easy to remove, but does that mean I misunderstood the hidden request? –LPfi (talk) 11:46, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Can someone take a look at the hidden comment about copying the calendar from en.wp template? How does the command to remove the links work? OhanaUnitedTalk page 08:05, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Even if the games were going ahead as normal, few would be planning their trip only one week before the start - I bought my tickets for London 2012 nearly a year before the games. I think we should keep the article and the list of venues. The Olympics will still be a major TV event and people may see coverage of a venue and think it would be nice to go there in 2024 (or 2030?). AlasdairW (talk) 15:10, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- I think we can be very sure that they're not going to cancel within a week of the Olympics being due to start. As for what should become of the article, we could think about adding places to watch the games (i.e. big screens in parks and what have you) in countries that are opening up, or we could just admit defeat and give up on trying to cover these games. Either way, all the venue and Japan-specific information probably needs to be removed if the article is going to stay in main space.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:54, 16 July 2021 (UTC)