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Potential Discord server

Swept in from the pub

Hey guys! I'm wondering if there would be interest in a Discord server for Wikivoyage. I would like to create one but if there is no interest I won't worry about it.

Leave a reply to say if you're interest or not :)

Thanks! JustThatNerdyNerd (talk) 07:40, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I'd be open to having a Discord server for Wikivoyage (anything is better than the old-school IRC shit), but my instincts suggest that it will be a dead server. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

That was my immediate thought. I might create one and post it here, we'll see how it goes. Currently the IRC channel has 9 people so the bar is set very low for dead. JustThatNerdyNerd (talk) 07:50, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Do wait for the community to decide whether it wants a Discord server or not, though. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 08:03, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I use Discord for other purpose and don't use IRC at all so would be interested in a WV Discord server. Gizza ^(roam) 12:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

It might also be your memory and not just your instincts? There's been a discussion about this almost exactly four years ago: WV:Travellers' pub/2020.

I've personally been involved with setting up that server, but I can't recall what happened to it in the long run. It wound up being a server that catered to all language varieties of Wikivoyage, which I think is why it never ended up being successful. No more than two dozen people ever joined, but none of them used the server. The server might be deleted now, or I left it at some point - Can't recall. I personally still remain in favour of setting up a Discord server for EN-Voyage though.
― Wauteurz (talk) 13:26, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

As a note, Spanish Wikivoyage has a channel on the Spanish server. Instead of creating a new server, it might be good to request a channel on the English server or I'll be happy to set up a general Wikivoyage category on the Spanish server, whatever you want. Galahad (sasageyo!)^(esvoy) 15:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I might just stick to making a new one as the En Wikipedia server is just soooo noisy. Plus then if we need extra channels then we're just cluttering up their server. I'll whip something up and share it here :) JustThatNerdyNerd (talk) 20:06, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

It would be no problem for me to create an exclusive category for Wikivoyage in the spanish server. In any case, you should first consult with the entire Wikivoyage community if they are interested before creating a server of such caliber. Galahad (sasageyo!)^(esvoy) 03:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Let's start with en. If necessary, we can add more channels or a new server for Spanish or any other dominant language. JustThatNerdyNerd (talk) 20:07, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I was just wondering why the server disappeared fwiw; appears to have been deleted. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:19, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

New Discord Server!

Swept in from the pub

So you may or may not have seen the chat Potential Discord server, but in a nutshell, there was enough interest to where I have created a Discord server for the Wikivoyage community!

You MUST be authenticated with WikiAuthBot to be able to talk in the server. I believe I've set everything up right but if a few permissions are weird or you can't talk let me know. If there's enough interest I might see if I can get WikiBot invited (the one that provides links when you type [[article name]]).

Please note this is very primitive, really it is more of a trial. I have no emojis rn but feel free to DM me with suggestions.

Linking the IRC channel to the server is something I want to do but I just don't have the skill level. If anyone can assist please DM me :)

You can join at https:// discord.gg/APwpsVcM6R (I could have a hyperlink because of the spam filter).

If you are a Wikivoyage Admin, please request to have that role added. All Wikivoyage Admins will be automatically considered moderators. If you so desperately wish not to be a mod, please DM me and I will remove that role. If you believe you can be a moderator, and aren't an admin already, that's alright! You can DM me to apply, but please attach some proof you are fit for the job (i.e. proof of moderating other servers & references (preferably Wikivoyage Admins) so I can make sure you won't vandalise the server).

Thanks! JustThatNerdyNerd (talk) 05:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I won't be frequenting this server, so if my input is desired, post a link to the relevant discussion somewhere. I'm not sure what the purpose of the server is. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

That's ok :)

I made the server to chat about anything we would do so in here or on IRC, because I know some people (myself included) prefer talking on Discord. People can also ask editing/tourist questions or talk off-topic.

You shouldn't miss too much!

Thanks! JustThatNerdyNerd (talk) 06:24, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I too won't be joining the server as it currently stands, but I may consider joining if a few other established users also join. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:32, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikivoyage:Social media

Swept in from the pub

This page might need an update. Are any of the social media accounts still active? (none of the 6 users in charge of maintaining WV's FB and X/Twitter accounts are active anymore) --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Looking at it, May 30, 2021 for FB and some date around 3 years ago for X/Twitter (need an account to open the page). Should the English Wikivoyage permanently abandon its social media accounts? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:31, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Keep — Since many people in the world are interconnected with social media (including me, of course), I think the social media accounts of Wikivoyage should be kept as they are obvious platforms to promote our project. We should also venture into the Threads app to promote our project to the Insta users. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 17:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree in principle, but those accounts are literally abandoned and there's no way for any of us to take over both the FB and X/Twitter accounts since almost all of users maintaining those accounts have left. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

If we can't take over those accounts, then it is better permanently abandoning those accounts in favor of new ones. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 09:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Are the people who maintained them not contactable? I assume they have other things going on in their lives, but they may be reading their email, and somebody may even have their phone numbers. If so, they should be able to hand over rights to the accounts. Leaving abandoned accounts behind and creating new ones gives a bad image. If we have to create new ones, we need to create some mechanism for the situation not to be repeated (and put a note and link on the old ones, if possible). –LPfi (talk) 10:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, I suppose LtPowers might be contactable given they've made sporadic edits both here and on Wikipedia, but all of the others haven't made edits in years (except Andre, who left due to abuse of admin tools on Commons). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Those two both have their email enabled. If their email addresses are stable non-throw-away ones, them not editing doesn't affect being able to reach them. Some in the community may also have personal contacts to them. Similarly with the others. –LPfi (talk) 12:49, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, for heaven's sake, I'm still pingable and emailable. Andrew did such a good job with the Facebook postings that I fell out of the habit, and no one notified me when he stopped doing them. Plus I didn't (and don't) really have the time to keep up with it. I will say that I don't know that we ever got much engagement on Facebook (can't speak to the other social media), but I'm happy to add other people as admins if anyone wants to step forward. Powers ^(talk) 13:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

I would suggest that at minimum, we post Destination of the Month, Off the Beaten Path and Featured Travel Topic each month. They seem like low hanging fruits, high quality entries and give us something to post about on a regular basis without looking too spammy or bot-like. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 19:18, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't disagree, but someone has to write the blurbs. It gets to be a lot for one person. Powers ^(talk) 19:48, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Just use the lead section of those articles as blurbs. No need to reinvent the wheel. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 04:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Or use the blurbs that will go on the main page. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 04:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)