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Hello, ThunderingTyphoons!! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Thank you for your Farnborough edits. jan (talk) 14:15, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much jan. I'm excited to get started on this brand new Wiki project! --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:17, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Great editing job on France! Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Why thank you! :-) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:05, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


I'm sorry that correct grammar doesn't "sound" good to you, but I assure you the edit you reverted was correct. I would ask you to please reinstate it. LtPowers (talk) 18:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I disagree. My understanding is that this is disputed by grammarians, and that ultimately either is fine. But the proposed wording has the disadvantage of being awkward (not used colloquially) and pedantic. --Peter Talk 18:56, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah that's what I meant. I'm sorry that the wording in my summary irritated you LtPowers, but I am one of those people who has a good 'gut feeling' for correct grammar, though I am not very good with the proper terminology. I realise my summary doesn't sound very professional and a bit rude and I apologise for that, but like Peterfitzgerald I believe the way the text was originally written agrees better with "concentrations" which is plural and thus flows more naturally. Regards, --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:33, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Well, I guess my ninth-grade English teacher deserves a stern talking-to. Considering I wrote it that way initially, as well as modern consensus among grammar wonks, I apologize. It will take me some time to unlearn, although perhaps not as long as I think (given the way I wrote it originally). LtPowers (talk) 20:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

No need to be rude

(swept from User_talk:W._Frank)

"move Dundee AGAIN since domestic only and NOT one of the 5 INTERNATIONAL airports, correct typos, etc"

Perhaps you should write a notice to triggerhappy editors in the section since this a persistent (and clearly infuriating) problem, instead of biting someone's head off for making an edit in good faith. Yes, I now realise it reads very clearly that the list is for international airports but it was an honest mistake and not something for which I'd expect to be subject to your short temper. Regards --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:26, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I was a bit surprised to suddenly find the above on my talk page when I'm not aware of ever having had any interaction with you before.
However, upon checking, I find that the quote relates to an edit summary. Edit summaries are relatively short fields and are intended to briefly explain an edit or the reason for an edit. This one was NOT addressed to anybody in particular and certainly NOT to you. You have obviously taken offence and for that I am truly sorry.
We do rely upon people reading the section they're actually editing. It's simply impractical to leave too many HTML notes and, in this case I don't think your mistake is either important enough or frequent enough to do so. Keep cool this weekend. --W. Franke-mailtalk 21:47, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
TT, this user is generally best ignored, as he likes to stir the pot. --Peter Talk 21:52, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you both for your responses. Apology accepted, W.Frank. I'm well aware of what an edit summary is but when the summary directly refers to the previous user's work (in this case mine) then it is (IMO) directed at an individual. Anyway, enough said. Enjoy your respective weekends, Peter and W. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

"mL" is our standard abbreviation for millilitre(s)

to avoid a perceived confusion with the figure 1 (one) and the lower case l (el) - although I do appreciate it is less commonly seen in the UK.

This convention is according to Wikivoyage:Units#Fluid_volume where it states: "(In order to avoid confusion with the numeral 1 and letter l, L is always capitalized when used as an abbreviation for litre.)" -- 04:13, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the clarification. After I reverted your edit, I went online and saw that either was considered acceptable so decided I wouldn't bother reacting further if it was changed back. Although the idea that an l could be mistaken for a 1 is a nonsense, "rules is rules", so I'll know to use the mL convention in future. Sorry for the misunderstanding ː-) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Admin Nomination

Hi Jamie!

I was just wondering whether you might appreciate an Admin nomination? You've contributed loads to the project and you're a very active editor, doing great work! What says you? :) --Nick talk 03:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Nick ː-)
I wasn't aware that I'd contributed all that much to be honest, but I'm pleased that you think I haveǃ I think I would be interested in taking on the role of an admin. Since I've practically all but abandoned my Wikipedia account, this is the main Wiki site I come on and I think it's a worthwhile project. And a travel guide is a lot more fun to edit than a boring old encyclopaediaǃ
Just before I commit to anything, would you say that this page is a good summary of the responsibilities of an admin? If so, you can count me in.
I appreciate the recognition, by the way, not that I'm some kind of fame- and power-hungry narcissist ː-) Cheers --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:24, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
As far as I've seen, that guide sums up the responsibilities quite well, though I'm a bit of a rubbish admin! If that's ok, I'lll get nominating you now! --Nick talk 19:21, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Nomination up! Good luck! :) --Nick talk 19:55, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Ah wonderful, thanksǃ --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 23:56, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
There have been some concerns raised at the nomination; could you please respond to them at your earliest convenience? Thanks. --Rschen7754 07:33, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi ThunderingTyphoons, I was just browsing through your edit history out of curiosity. Somehow I've never really come across any of your work and we haven't been in the same discussions, so I feel a bit unqualified to comment on your nomination. Just wanted to say great work on article content though! I hope people's questions will not lessen your enthusiasm. It's all in good faith. Nick has clearly seen a lot more of you than most others have, but his confidence alone says a lot. Cheers, JuliasTravels (talk) 10:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Agreed. I can't speak for anyone else, but my feeling is that we just want to hear from you and have a chance to think about whatever you have to say.
All the best,
Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:23, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


Your edit summary states "The long name (which btw is just "Republic of Azerbaijan") is not needed.", but the actual edit you've made restores the long name: [1]. I assume that was inadvertent and should be undone, or am I misunderstanding? -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:47, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh yes, you're completely rightǃ I've been away for a while and the joy I feel at being back must have made me temporarily colour blind. Thanks for the heads up, it's fixed now ː-) Best wishes, --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:13, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for catching my error in editing... Matroc (talk) 06:19, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem ː-) It was obviously just a mistake. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 07:23, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


I used to live in Sheffield and went to the same uni as you :) What is Tours like? I've been to places further south (Languedoc, Marseille and Montpellier so far). Crookesmoor (talk) 13:55, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Nice to see another Sheffield student on Wikivoyage :) Tours is lovely, very typically French in almost every way but also a bit off the typical tourist trail. I haven't actually been to any of the places you mentioned; do you recommend them? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

An award for you!

  The Wikivoyage Barncompass
Next to excellence is the appreciation of it. So here is your medal of appreciation. We need ten thousand thundering typhoons like you! Well done Jamie. Saqib (talk) 14:27, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much, Saqib, it's an honour! Best, Jamie (--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:42, 3 March 2015 (UTC))

Thank you

Hi Jamie!

After waking up from my very long hibernation, I was reading our United Kingdom article yesterday. I just wanted to congratulate on the fantastic lead paragraph you've written - it sounds very professional and I don't know how I'd better it.

I was also wondering whether you'd fancy another nomination to become an admin - I think you're a very worthy candidate. I know that last time I did it, the consensus was 'not yet', but now, with several years under your belt, I'd hope the outcome would be different!

Hope you're well!

Nick talk 22:44, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nick!
Nice to have you back from the land of the living to service the Wikigod anew.
Your praise means a lot, as does your belief in my admin worthiness. However, I'm content with what I do on the site now, which is not a lot of much importance that I enjoy all the same. At any rate, I doubt I involve myself enough in policy discussion to justify an admin nomination. And sometimes I write rude words in articles! So thanks ever so much for the offer, but no thanks.
With specific regard to leads and summaries, all too often they are just geographic descriptions lacking in anything to make you want to visit the place; and since I like being all hyperbolic and flowery it's a perfect distraction for me.
One more thing, if you ever feel like making page banners again, can I cheekily direct you toward here and here?
All the best,
Jamie :-)
(ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 02:28, 27 June 2015 (UTC), and all that jazz)
Nice work Jamie and welcome back Nick. --Saqib (talk) 05:41, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Bond, James Bond

Hi there. I don't think there's a copyright on using the name "James Bond" once in a book or website, as long as we don't print shirts with his name and try to sell them or something. Do you suppose Disney would go after us for mentioning Mickey Mouse in the Disney World article? (I didn't check whether he's mentioned or not, but it sure would be logical.) Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:13, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

You're probably right. I actually think the Martini 'joke' works better without namedropping Bond. For your interest, Mickey is mentioned by name 18 times in the Disney World article, so I should think we'd be fine :) Thanks, --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 02:17, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
I got a chuckle out of the number of times. Thanks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:24, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

United Kingdom

Hi, I really don't think that it's helpful to tell prospective tourists that all of the UK's cities are as "charming and inviting" as London. It's simply not factually correct, and reads like empty puffery. Many of the UK's cities don't have much to offer tourists. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:29, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, perhaps you're right about "charming and inviting", Nick, as well as suggesting everywhere is on an equal footing with London. Though merely leaving it as "interesting" isn't particularly accurate either. Your new edit is much better anyway.
But allow me to stick up for my country a bit. All the cities listed in the UK article have a hell of a lot to offer tourists, and the same goes for many which aren't listed. The ones which have little to offer (I would say the likes of Southampton, Milton Keynes and Preston) are in the minority. And I think we are absolutely here to sell the idea of travel to our readers, and for that we have to be positive about the places we're writing about. Thanks, Nick. Regards --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 09:34, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
No worries. I have to say that I'm influenced here by seeing some fairly dull UK cities! (Liverpool for instance). I have enjoyed my three trips to the UK though. Nick-D (talk) 11:01, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Next time you're over here, you must go to Liverpool again. I have family from there, and when I used to visit as a child, and even fairly recently (in the late 2000s) it was dull as dishwater, really grotty and deprived-looking. In the last five years, however, it really has changed for the better, it's a totally transformed city. My grandad is an 87-year-old Liverpudlian and says it's the best he's ever seen the city. Give our article a read if you like :) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:49, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I have heard it's improved greatly since I visited in 2006 - much of the city was a building site then, so the results would be interesting. Nick-D (talk) 23:21, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
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