Wikivoyage talk:Requests for maps

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I have a tool for embedding maps created by Google My Maps at http://www.mymapsplus.com - would anyone here be interested in using these with Wikivoyage ? It would be a straightforward way for users to create a map to go with an article. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 84.9.69.112 (talk • contribs)

We've avoided doing that sort of thing, for a few reasons. One is the issue of licensing: Google doesn't grant us the rights to distribute their copyrighted maps under the same terms we distribute the rest of Wikivoyage (the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license). Another is the fact that these maps aren't necessarily ideal for our purposes (e.g. color coding, custom symbols, identifying locations not in Google's database), and the use of those maps would tend to undercut the effort to develop our own, which would be geared specifically for Wikivoyage's needs. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 22:50, 1 May 2007 (EDT)

That sounds fair enough. Google My Maps could still be of use to you as many people are creating mini local guides with My Maps. It wouldn't be too difficult to add a button labelled 'Include this map in wikivoyage' to my site which would share the kml file along with info such as city and country. You could then use the data with your own maps API. If you need anyone to help with development or testing of your own maps API I'd be interested in helping. I'm not totally sure where Google My Maps is leading to, My Maps are being incorporated into Google Earth and Searches but I doubt they'll be made available on any sort of open source basis. Wikimapia and Placeopedia are doing open source maps, I think a travel-oriented open source map database would be a good project.

On a side issue, I would like to include some Wikivoyage content on my maps sites - is it possible to use your xml feeds (I emailed xml-data-request@wikivoyage.org a few weeks back but didnt get a reply) Rob 84.9.69.112 23:17, 1 May 2007 (EDT)

Many districtified cities don't have district maps!

Latest comment: 10 years ago12 comments4 people in discussion

What do these cities have in common: Melbourne D, Dalian, ~~Boston, Atlanta, Houston, Miami D~~, Dallas, ~~Santiago de Chile, Kuala Lumpur~~, Ahmedabad D, ~~Lima, Buenos Aires, Kolkata, Mumbai, Jakarta~~, Moscow D, Johannesburg D They are all on the large world cities list and are divided into districts but do not have a district map. Probably there are at least as many smaller cities that are districtified and lacking a district map. For the ones I've marked with a "D", the district border discussion is going on (in most cases those discussions have come to a standstill over a year ago, though...).

If some of our map makers are familiar with any of these cities, it would be great if they just would open Inkscape and start drawing. For the rest of the cities we'll probably have to do some investigation; looking at talk pages, adding coordinates for POIs in each district article and use the dynamic map to see where the blue, black, orange and green markers show up, and looking if the districts division is derived from some official division of the city in which case WP and Commons come in handy. In any case, this is probably going to take a whole lot of work, so the more map makers who are interested in this, the better. ϒpsilon (talk) 22:05, 5 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Prague D, ~~Budapest~~, Athens D, ~~Tijuana, Oklahoma City D~~, San Juan D, ~~Cleveland, Columbus, Beirut~~, Austin D, Jerusalem D, ~~Leeds, Luxor, Miami Beach (maybe it should be coupled together with Miami), Providence D, Richmond, and Tel Aviv~~ don't have district maps either. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:00, 9 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for raising the issue YPSI. You can always count on me whenever it comes to map making. I twice (Wikivoyage_talk:Regions_map_Expedition#Mumbai and Talk:Mumbai#Map) time tried to create the map for Mumbai but unfortunately nobody responded. --Saqib (talk) 19:09, 9 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

That's great, Saqib! There's a lot to do. Mumbai seems to be one of the easier cities to make a map for. Namely, in Mumbai#Districts it looks like our district is made up of official districts and they are listed there. One then needs to look up each of the official districts in Wikipedia (e.g. w:Govandi) – they have maps showing where in the city they're located (or the couple of districts I looked at all had) and can be used as help when making the map. But it's a bit irritating to see that there isn't really any discussion in Talk:Mumbai concerning the districts (or rather the borders between the districts) that could provide helpful clues.

For those cities that do not mention official districts nor have any clues on their talk pages we likely need to add coordinates for POIs and look at the dynamic map. That means a lot of googling.

If the districts have been arbitrarily invented by someone without any discussion and the POIs are still in the city's article (or the articles don't have any POIs) I guess we're out of luck. :P

(Pinging the five other map expedition members who've been editing here during the last two months: User:LtPowers, User:Texugo, User:Sertmann, User:JamesA, User:Quintucket) --ϒpsilon (talk) 19:59, 9 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

YPSI, Mumbai not seems to me district-ified on the basis of official division but anyway, I'll try to figure out how can I draw a map for the article. --Saqib (talk) 14:18, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Aren't the places listed in parentheses on Mumbai#Districts e.g. "South Central Mumbai (Byculla, Parel, Worli, Prabhadevi, Dadar)" official districts? At least they have Wikipedia articles. (Prabhadevi isn't marked on a map) --ϒpsilon (talk) 14:32, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

You're right. Those are official areas but I was referring to "South Central Mumbai", "South Mumbai" et cetera. I hope I'll able to find the maps with borders specified for these areas and then I'll start creating the map. --Saqib (talk) 20:35, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Actually, there is a way, but it's a bit tedious. commons:Category:Maps of Mumbai seems to contain maps where the official districts are marked in dark blue, Bombaywardsmap "A".PNG and so on. In the description it says what district the map depicts. The funny thing is that the descriptions are in Spanish (BTW: WTF?). Anyway, the description always translates to: "Location of Urban District /letter/ of /official name/ in Mumbai". I suggest you copy one of those ugly maps to your computer, go through each of the maps in commons and fill in the district names. You'll have the official districts on a map, and as our Mumbai districts each are made up of a couple of official districts, it should't be hard to make the map.

I've spent a couple of hours with all the 34 cities' city articles, districts, WP articles and sections in Commons plus of course our dynamic maps, Google maps and whatnot figuring out which maps that are possibly doable. I can say that especially for the American articles it would be great to have someone actually familiar with the cities (e.g. Dallas#Districts has 21 districts listed if we count the suburbs). --ϒpsilon (talk) 21:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks a lot for your initiative, Ypsilon. I've been a little busy to be creating maps lately. To be honest, I'd love to ask someone else to have a go at making WV-style maps for Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo. They already have districts decided upon and basic shape-maps that can be overlaid to make a WV-style map, so it wouldn't be too hard of a job. I just haven't had the time when I'm at my home pc to do it. Texugo (talk) 20:25, 17 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, map drawing takes hours especially as I'm familiar with just one of those cities (Prague). I'll probably have a look at Rio and Sao at some point if Saqib or someone else hasn't. BTW... did you notice that Dallas with 21 districts (and Houston and Austin) are on the list too? It'd probably be easier for you to make that map/those maps (My first hand knowledge of Dallas: I've been half an hour on DFW once...) --ϒpsilon (talk) 20:39, 17 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Yes but as brought up at Talk:Dallas#Proposed division of districts, it very likely need to be condensed to a much lower number of districts. I'd hate to spend the time to make a map for that one before completing a thorough reexamination of how the city should best be split up. Texugo (talk) 20:52, 17 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

I'll have a go at Prague but before that please let's discuss reducing the number of districts there (best here). Jjtkk (talk) 15:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

St.Petersburg

Latest comment: 4 months ago7 comments5 people in discussion

Please, dear friends, don't forget Saint Petersburg. It's already districtified, but there have been talks to districtify the Center, which is enormous. There's a map of the Center, already made, in the Russian version of WV. A translation, or even better, a dynamic map, would really help the process. If I only knew how to deploy it... Ibaman (talk) 15:59, 21 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

User:Ibaman, now we're talking about static maps, similar to the one in St._Petersburg#Districts and it's twin in the rajony section of the Russian article There isn't any such map in ru:Санкт-Петербург/Центр, nor do I understand why there should be. District maps are used just once, in the city's main article (exception: Manhattan) ϒpsilon (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Saint_Petersburg_Russia_street_map.svg

Also:

https://vectormap.net/free_vector_maps_downloads/saint-petersburg-russia-editable-vector-map-svg-pdf-ai-eng-free/ Vectormapper (talk) 06:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

User:Ypsilon, I don't know why, but they seem to have been removed. Here they are:

Thanks a lot for the reply! Ibaman (talk) 12:14, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

The maps that you are showing are not district maps, they are street maps. District maps are maps such as this one:

Good for quickly seeing which article covers what area

And yes, I have noticed that Globetrotter19 has expanded St.Petersburg/Center greatly. A dynamic map is what is needed there, so that you can see exactly where the points of interest are, and by help of that can place each of them in the right district article when splitting up central Piter in smaller districts.

Of course, anything beside a dynamic map isn't helpful at all for this particular task. In fact static street maps with sights marked out and district maps must be drawn anew once your districtification is completed. ϒpsilon (talk) 14:35, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunately, street maps are no longer up-to-date. Keeping them in order is a formidable task that, realistically, will never be accomplished. I believe that one dynamic map and one big article about St. Petersburg/Center is a good solution for the time being. Smaller districts inside the city center require that more information is collected first. Remember also that the existing article needs a lot of copyediting. It does not read as a travel guide. --Alexander (talk) 03:20, 25 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

That is because paragraphs and paragraphs of text are being copied over from WP and inserted here. Some reverting may be in order and/or coaching against doing that. Texugo (talk) 11:24, 25 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Map request for Kuala Lumpur/Diamond Triangle

Latest comment: 4 months ago6 comments5 people in discussion

Hi, to whoever it may concern, I have this extraregion article going on and I am thinking of creating a map for it. I have try multiples of times on creating it but it just doesn't seems to work. Appreciate if anyone who has the expertise on this may help me out. Thanks. Kianchin (talk) 08:39, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Static map-making takes several hours by professional map-makers, and there are only a couple of them. However, I think you can make simpler static maps using the OpenStreetMap website, as seen at York#Get around. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 11:28, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thanks but how do I make one like that. I can't seems to figure it out 175.136.252.89 02:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi Kianchin, there is a website called geojson.io, that can be used to make dynamic maps. More explanations and a How-To video can be found on my user page under "Manual creation of district overview maps". Hope this helps.--Renek78 (talk) 10:58, 10 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Here is 2 versions maps of the Kuala Lumpur))) Welcome

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kuala_Lumpur_Malaysia_street_map.svg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kuala_Lumpur_Malaysia_street_map_SVG_V.2.svg

Also:

editable Adobe Illustrator and PDF (layered) free

https://vectormap.net/free_vector_maps_downloads/kuala-lumpur-malaysia-vector-map-in-adobe-illustrator-pdf-and-svg-free/ Kirill Shrayber (talk) 19:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Correct links

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kuala_Lumpur_Malaysia_street_map.svg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kuala_Lumpur_Malaysia_street_map_SVG_V.2.svg Kirill Shrayber (talk) 19:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Removing bottom-level regions, parks and undistrictified cities

Latest comment: 1 year ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Before dynamic maps existed, static maps were the only way for an article to have a map. However, it's been (almost?) a decade since dynamic maps were introduced and have become the preferred type of map for undistrictified cities, parks, and bottom-level regions. As we have increasingly fewer active users who make static maps, our focus has shifted towards making static maps for districtified cities and non-bottom-level regions – and that's what this page should ultimately be for. Are there any objections to removing bottom-level regions, parks, and undistrictified cities? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:50, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Done – I think I removed just about all of them. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 03:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Free vector city maps in SVG format - for all, CC-0 lic

Latest comment: 4 months ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Hello there))) Published vector maps of my production on WIKIMEDIA Maps of cities (streets, roads, water bodies), names - only cities and districts, road signboards.

LIST OF THE FREE CITY MAPS in SVG EDITABLE

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aarhus_Denmark_Street_Map_vector_svg_free.svg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adelaide_Australia_Street_Map_SVG_free.svg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Albany_New_York_US_Street_Map.svg

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