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Travel from Tisvildeleje to Aarhus, Denmark

Hello! We'd love to travel by boat from Tisvildeleje to Aarhus (or nearby towns) by boat, sailboat, etc. Have not been able to find info about this. Can you help?. Asked by: 162.196.90.222 23:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

@RhinoMind: is probably the one to ask. --Ypsilon (talk) 10:16, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Boating on the Baltic Sea might (should) have some usable information, even though the voyage is north of the Danish sounds. Unfortunately the article is very weak on Denmark. Are you wondering about how to get a boat, about charts and similar, about conditions, recommendations on route and sights, or do you need advice also on boating in general? –LPfi (talk) 13:09, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Ypsilon, and hello @162.196.90.222:!

Public transport by ferry in Denmark is not possible from Tisvildeleje to Aarhus.

If you want to sail to Aarhus, you will have to go to Sjællands Odde (look it up in Google Maps), and it is not close to Tisvildeleje. This is the only way to sail to Aarhus from Zealand by public ferry. The ferry is called Molslinjen (https://www.molslinjen.dk/) and is a supercool high-speed catamaran built in Tasmania by the way.

The Sjælland Odde link, is fast and effective, and a popular busy transport route between Zealand and Aarhus. If you have the time, and want to make the trip to Aarhus more interesting, you could go from Tisvildeleje to the town of Kalundborg. From here you take the small ferry to the rural island of Samsø. Explore the island as you wish, and take another small ferry straight to Aarhus inner city from the island's westcoast at Sælvig.

If you are skilled sailors, you could sail to Aarhus yourself with a sailboat. There are many marinas around Aarhus, including two in the Aarhus Habour itself. But sailing in Danish waters is not always straight forward, so be sure to have an experienced crew. You need to know the local waters. Very important.

Ping me back, if you have more questions. Good luck! RhinoMind (talk) 22:30, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@RhinoMind: For the article I linked, I wonder: are there non-obvious problems with sailing that stretch in a yacht? There is archipelago, possibly moving reefs of sand, tidal currents (and the additional irregular ones of the sounds), and the shipping lane. You need up-to-date charts and some planning and care, but I'd think those problems are much lesser there than e.g. entering Elbe from the North Sea. Aren't normal navigation and boat handling skills, and some experience of tides and busy fairways, enough for Denmark? –LPfi (talk) 22:54, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@LPfi: Hi. I haven't read the long article you link to, really. I had a look at it, and it doesn't seem to say much about Danish waters? As you say: "There is archipelago, possibly moving reefs of sand, tidal currents (and the additional irregular ones of the sounds), and the shipping lane. You need up-to-date charts and some planning and care" pretty much sums it up. But that is also challenging stuff. I don't know a thing about the Elbe, except that its a major European river, so I can't say if it's easier or worse. Danish Waters covers the Northsea, Skagerrak, the Limfjord, the Kattegat, the Jutland Fjords, the Sounds, the Southern Islands, and the Southwestern Baltic Sea. These are very different environments, and you couldn't treat them as the same.

Speaking about the specific route from Tisvildeleje to Aarhus, the difficult part probably starts at the Bay of Aarhus. Most boats go north around Samsø, and it is a somewhat busy traffic lane. The waters of the bay are shallow with both stoney and sandy reefs, shifting currents, and the dugout seabed lane is narrow. If the sailors are skilled with good maps and all, I guess it's a piece of cake. But I have seen sailboats run aground the stoney reef sitting there through a storm, and it didn't look nice. Hope they are alive and well today.

All this said, I am really not a sailor myself, so I wouldn't have the ability to update your article, I'm sorry. But the project sounds great. Many people are spending their summer holiday, sailing from marina to marina. I think it's most Danish people, with some Germans and Norwegians as well. RhinoMind (talk) 20:11, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. There is little about Denmark in the article, as there have been no authors with experience from there (I myself have just passed by, sailing from Kiel). I thought that you might want to add something, or check that what is there isn't misleading. I understand that the areas are different, but as you said "sailing in Danish waters [...]", I thought there were common issues. The article is about the Baltic Sea, so it does not need to cover the western or northern coasts. I believe the original poster got a good enough image of the conditions from your answer – if they are up to it, they know how to do the needed research. –LPfi (talk) 20:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you too LPfi. It was impossible to ping the OP, but hey, he got as much as we could offer in here, I think.

As I mentioned, I do not have any competence as a sailor myself. I have taken note of the article - I didn't knew of its existence before - and if I happen to find some useful sources, I will post them to the article's TalkPage. RhinoMind (talk) 21:10, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Why do bike tourists always bike through Baja instead of the west coast of mainland Mexico?

I am looking for some place cheap to stay on the Mexican side of the US/Mexico border. I am traveling by bicycle. It seems like people traveling by bike always bike down Baja and then catch a ferry from La Paz. Why? Asked by: 172.58.22.179 01:48, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Me again. I still don't know why. But according to this blog it's because the other route is boring: http://www.worldbiking.info/country_information/biking_Mexico_country_information.html . Doesn't make any sense to me, a complete non-answer, but it's the only thing I've been able to find so far. 172.58.22.152 23:37, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

The article notes that "Highway riding can be quite dangerous in Mexico" and perhaps there is a lack of good cycling infrastructure on the less-touristed mainland, compared to Baja. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 15:49, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Immigrating to Dubai

How is the cost of living in Dubai and where can i apply for jobs when im from South Africa ? —The preceding comment was added by 41.114.124.210 (talk • contribs)

We don't give advice on immigration in this travel guide. I would suggest, though, that you be very careful about going to the Gulf to work. There have been many horror stories of people forced to give up their passports to their employers, enslaved, beaten and raped and denied the right to leave because their employers have to give permission for them to exit the country. Of course, many other people do earn money there and remit it to family members at home. If you personally know people who work in the Gulf, ask them about their experiences. Good luck! Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:31, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes, some caution is definitely required, but Ikan seems to me to overstate it. On the other hand, it is decades since I lived in the Gulf & never in Dubai so he may be right. When I was in Saudi Arabia, 1980s, there were certainly many Filipinas being treated badly & unable to leave. My feminist ex moved to Dubai after that, though, & found it much more tolerable than Saudi.

Partly I think it depends on the work you do & something along the lines of social class. Manual labourers, mostly Yemeni & Afghan, get treated quite badly. Professionals -- mostly Western, Egyptian, Palestinian, or subcontinent -- get treated well & make good money. Many foreign workers fall somewhere in between. Pashley (talk) 03:58, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Why do some countries drive on the left side of the road?

I have seen in movies, videos, commercials, and photos of countries like the UK and Japan, if it shows a road and a car, it is driving on the left lane of the road. I want to know if there is a reason and why this is so. This question applies to all countries that drive on the left lane. Asked by: Nevada Man (talk) 16:49, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Nevada_Man

Welcome to Wikivoyage, Nevada Man. The reasons vary by country. Our colleagues at Wikipedia have a detailed article that explains this. Ground Zero (talk) 17:03, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

@Nevada Man: I know you'd get a better answer on Wikipedia, but the answer is simple: British and Dutch colonialism.

Most former British and Dutch colonies drive on the left because that's the side that Britain and the Netherlands (used to for the Netherlands) drive on, though the Netherlands switched to be in line with the rest of mainland Europe. I think there were also some other northern European countries like Denmark and Sweden that also used to drive on the left, and that is why the US Virgin Islands still drives on the left to this very day. Some former British colonies eventually switched to the right like Canada, Nigeria or Ghana, but that was only to make border crossings easier.

Apart from those countries, most other countries that still drive on the left have no reason to – most are islands (e.g. 95 percent of Oceania, Indonesia, the UK/Ireland, Cyprus, Japan, most of English-speaking Caribbean), or have a road network way too complex and developed (e.g. most of southern Africa and Southeast Asia, all of South Asia, Guyana and Suriname.

So, there isn't one correct way of driving on one-side or another. I'm still a fairly new driver who's been relying on others for years in my home LHS-driving country, and while I haven't drove in the US before, based on my friend's experience in driving in the US and mainland Europe, it can get a little bit tricky at first, but it'll become more natural sooner or later. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:17, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm Canadian so for me driving on the right is normal. I drove the Istanbul to New Delhi overland route and, at least for me, adapting to driving on the left (India, Pakistan & Nepal) in my left-hand drive car was not difficult. I suspect a right-hand drive car would be harder; I'd have to learn to shift with my left hand.

Certainly being a pedestrian in a country that drives on the other side is dangerous. For example, when I am about to step onto a road I automatically look left since that is where I subconsciously expect cars to come from. That has nearly gotten me killed in London. Pashley (talk) 14:24, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Looking the wrong way is less of an issue if you live in a LHD country on the edge of a RHD continent as you become used to nearly always looking the other way when overseas.

It might be worth noting that a lot of continental European countries drove and rode horses and carts on the left in the past. This is apparently because the roads were dangerous, and travellers needed to be armed. Since most people are right handed, passing oncoming traffic on the left meant you could draw your sword into an effective position more quickly if needed. Allegedly, it was Napoleon Bonaparte who caused a switch in circulation side; the countries he conquered switched to the right, while those that resisted kept to the left, at least until the 20th century.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:02, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

I first learnt to drive in Australia (driving on the left in RHD cars), and it certainly took a bit of time to adapt to driving in a left-hand drive car when I moved to the U.S.; I noticed that I kept drifting to the right. And now that I have been so acclimatised to driving in the U.S., I find myself drifting to the left whenever I go back to Singapore. For me, I tend to associate RHD cars with driving on the left, and LHD cars with driving on the right, so the most confusing for me will be a country like Myanmar, which drives on the right, but where cars are mostly RHD since they are mostly second-hand imports from Japan and Thailand (which both drive on the left). The dog2 (talk) 20:16, 25 May 2022 (UTC)