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Place: Perth
Blurb: Maybe the most isolated world city still has a cosmopolitan vibe and features beaches, wineries and as well as cute quokkas on Rottnest Island (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or autumn
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It's been a while since our last WA feature, so why not head to the by far largest city there? Most parts of the articles look OK but See would need to be expanded, some sections could use photos and it wouldn't hurt to check through the listings in the districts. I'd imagine the article would be featured in November or so, so there's no rush.
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I haven't had the chance to properly read through the article, but it might be a good idea to solicit the opinion of @Graham87:, who has previously lived in Perth. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:37, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer not to deal with this, honestly, unless there are very specific questions that require local input. I don't know Perth that well from the average traveller's perspective, especially these days. Graham87 (talk) 11:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fair enough. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 08:37, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One other thing I noticed is that the static maps look horrendous (no offense, sorry). I can't tell which goes where, with several major freeways like the Tonkin Hwy missing. I can't do much since I've never been to Perth, though. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 03:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Outcome: DotM for Nov 2024. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 00:28, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Ohlone Wilderness Trail
Blurb: The wilderness outside San Francisco offers some serious hiking with beautiful views (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or fall per Ohlone Wilderness Trail#Climate
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 15:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: ...and yet another topic I've been thinking about nominating for quite some time. If there's something important missing, I think SelfieCity who's written most of the article can add it.
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Actually, I just discovered that the dynamic map already contains the trail, it appears on the dynamic map when you open its menu (in the upper right corner) and tick the "Hiking" box. Is there some way to have it displayed on the map by default, that'd probably be faster than drawing/coding the trail from scratch? --Ypsilon (talk) 10:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • My understanding is that geolines have never been a requirement for featuring. However, I agree that they make hiking itinerary articles better, so I have connected the relevant Wikidata item with OpenStreetMap and added a mapshape template to the article. Assuming I've done it correctly, once everything has had a chance to sync we should hopefully see the geoline in the article's map. —Granger (talk · contribs) 15:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. That's more time-effective than drawing it from scratch and hosting it locally. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would want some more information about what you can expect from the campsites and whether there are some facilities along the route. If this is clear for locals, the info should go into some hiking/park travel topic, and that article should be referenced for the info. –LPfi (talk) 20:10, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree more information is needed about the campsites. Do they have potable water? Non-potable water? Toilets of any kind? Are campfires allowed? If so, are there permanent firepits, and is there a feasible way to obtain firewood? Which ones require reservations, and how can they be reserved? Maybe SelfieCity can help clarify. —Granger (talk · contribs) 04:44, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Outcome: FTT for Oct 2024. --SHB2000 (t | c | m)

Place: La Tremblade
Blurb: Do you like surfing and oysters? Then, then this Charente-Maritime town facing the Atlantic definitely is for you! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-Oct, mid-summer might be quite hot though
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Translated from a Star article on French WV about year ago, so it should be fairly up to date despite what the timestamps say.
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Place: Yerevan
Blurb: Cascades, fountains and grand buildings await you in the Armenian capital (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-May, Sep-Oct. October for Yerevan Birthday?
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I recently upgraded the status to guide (somehow I remember it already was at guide status at some point, maybe it's another article downgraded for no apparent reason?) as it's really extensive. Sometime closer to when it's featured we need to check that places we've listed still exist, and that prices aren't too much off. Part of the lead section could be moved to Understand.
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Place: Flight baggage
Blurb: There are many things to take into consideration when packing for a flight - check out our guide for useful advice! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Anytime
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A look at Previous Featured travel topics reveals we don't very often run articles that aren't bound to a specific geographical location. But here's one. I think everything relevant is included.
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  • Comment the article has been edited a few times since nomination and I now shuffled the information around a little bit to hopefully make it more readable. It's hard, though, as this topic can't be strictly chopped up into distinct parts. I also removed some national references, but again, many of them serve as good examples can be useful even if you're not going to this particular country. --Ypsilon (talk) 19:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Minot
Blurb: This air force and rail town is also – at least heritage-wise – a piece of Scandinavia on the Great Plains. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep (Sep for the Norwegian Autumn Festival in early October)
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A tidy article, however many coordinates are missing, there's room for a couple more images, and this article too needs to be checked for up-to-date-ness a bit before featuring.
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Place: Košice
Blurb: Slovakia's second city is a bit off the tourist radar, still with a great deal of historical sites, scenic outdoors and interesting events to enjoy (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This would be our first ever Slovakian feature. It's translated from a Star article in French WV which is why the article is extensive and tidy. While many listings have an older date, I did run everything through Google Maps when translating (it's pointless translating outdated stuff) so they are up to date as of January 2023. However, as this would go on the Main Page probably in September 2024 it's closer to two than one year after the translation, so listings could be checked again for up-to-date-ness a little before we run it.
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Place: Voyages of James Cook
Blurb: Follow the steps of one of the most famous British explorers around the world! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Anytime
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:46, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have several "Voyages of..." articles at guide status, so why not start nominating one of them for FTT?
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Comment: We tend to look for major anniversaries for historical articles. Cook's second voyage was made from 1772 to 1775, which is 250 years ago. Not sure whether there will be any public events to attend, however. /Yvwv (talk) 13:38, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Put on hold? - This is a clean article with guide status, entirely written by established Wikivoyagers so I went ahead and nominated it for FTT some time ago. Now I'm scanning Commons for banner material for March's and April's featured articles, and looked more closely at the article to see which exact destinations the article is about. At that, I noticed that there are no POIs from New Zealand (see also Talk:Voyages of James Cook), and that part of the world is too important not to include. There are Mt Cook and the Cook strait but there must also be quite a few monuments of him, but the question is which of them are the most notable and should be included in the article? --Ypsilon (talk) 16:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC) [reply]
    I have added some NZ POIs and listings for the two replica Endeavour's which are afloat (UK and Australia). There are now three NZ listings - two are of the beaten track and one is a more central statue, but I am not sure if it is the most notable memorial. AlasdairW (talk) 22:46, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, and I also added the Cook strait and mountain. --Ypsilon (talk) 09:28, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let's wait for a week or two, I just brought the issues to light and there's a good chance that we have editors familiar with Cook and NZ who can help. Ypsilon (talk) 16:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I think it is now in reasonable shape, although more could be done. We should also check that the places listed in the article are mentioned in the city articles which are linked in the listings. AlasdairW (talk) 23:21, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Ath
Blurb: First established as a medieval dungeon, buildings from many eras and styles can be seen in Ath. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep. The Ducasse d'Ath festival takes place in late August
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Even if there are several European DotMs and FTTs nominated for next summer, we have no OtBP candidate from Europe. How about featuring one of the articles I translated a few months ago, Ath would be the first Belgian OtBP? Yes, the lastedit dates in the article are from earlier years, but just because I use the wikicode editor and was too lazy to change those one by one. All listings that are there are up to date as of February 2023.
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Place: Windsor (Ontario)
Blurb: Much more than just "South Detroit", the multicultural southernmost city of Canada features many outdoor activities, and a rich culture life (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep, "The late summer is the best time to visit the city"
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A combination we haven't had for a while is a large North American city featured during the summer. According to the article history, the article has been edited frequently in 2023, still it could be useful to go through the listings and check that everything listed is still in business/operational a couple of months before we feature it. Some listings also have no descriptions at all, especially in the Cope section.
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Place: Right to access in the Nordic countries
Blurb: There's a lot of nature to explore in the Nordic countries, and most of it for free (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Summer probably, though you can enjoy nature here around the year
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Yet another complete guide article I've thought about nominating for quite some time. We already have one Nordic FTT article next summer (E8 through Finland and Norway). But as there are no other Nordic articles (DotM/OtBPs) nominated and this is about nature while the other is about a road and towns, I think there's space for this one too. We ran the closely related Hiking in the Nordic countries in August 2015, so there will be about 9 years between them.
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  • Support as nominator. Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Quite different from most travel topics we have. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 02:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I think the article covers most relevant issues and it may be eye-opening for people from countries where the tradition is different (such as England and the USA). However, I'd like to hear from travellers not familiar with the concept: is there something that should be clarified? –LPfi (talk) 08:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    [edit conflict] The time slot in July is nice, as it's in the berry and mushroom season (which will continue through September) and also a common vacation time in Europe, with good hiking weather locally. –LPfi (talk) 09:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As an outsider, I've found this concept pretty easy to understand when I visited Norway a few years back (and should find it relatively easy when I visit Iceland and Finland next year), but that's also because it's a bit more lax here than it is in the UK or US and accidentally trespassing won't get you into much issues (unlike some places where you can legally be shot). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (and as a side note, I so wish this concept applied everywhere instead of just the Nordics) --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. As Scotland has more recently introduced some broadly similar rights with the Outdoor Access Code about 20 years ago, I found the article easy to understand and got a good grip also on what is different. I would like to see some links to definitive advice on access - government websites or possibly walking clubs etc. It would also be good to know who is responsible for enforcing these rights - to who do I report the farmer shouting "get off my land!". AlasdairW (talk) 21:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There is no definite advice, as these right aren't codified in law (other than as a side effect of other legislation). Government websites, walking clubs etc. do give advice, but they are not "official sites/primary sources" on the issue, so whatever they say should instead be included in our article, to the extent we see it as important.
    For the same reason nobody is enforcing those rights. If a farmer tells you to get off some specific part of their land, you should comply, as they probably have good reason. On the other hand, if you don't and they threaten you, then you can take them to court for illegal threats, or they could take you to court for causing damage to their crop.
    It seems this aspect of the rights should be explained more clearly in the article. One thing that I see difficult to convey, is how well this works in practice, through nearly everybody's respect for the rights, and most people behaving. There is little reason for a landowner to patrol their forest in hunt of hikers. This can be seen in court cases being very rare – no hikers or berry pickers try to test the limits.
    –LPfi (talk) 07:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Did this help? –LPfi (talk) 09:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks that helps. The question on enforcement came because the Scottish code has been challenged by landowners, although the traditional access that it was codifying rarely was. As this is a topic touching on legal areas, I think we should either have a strong disclaimer in the lede ("consult a lawyer for advice"), or link to other sites which give similar advice. For example, these tourist office pages appear to support what we are saying: Visit Sweden, Visit Norway and Visit Finland. This helps to protect WV and editors from being sued if something is wrong. It also helps readers unfamiliar with the ideas to see them expressed in different words elsewhere. AlasdairW (talk) 22:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This is an excellent travel topic! Excellent to see support for this nomination from locals as well. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 16:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Mount Buller
Blurb: One of Victoria's prime ski resorts holds an alpine charm: it's where snowy peaks meet a wide variety of ski slopes, and is just a 3–4-hour drive from Melbourne. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Southern winter for the ski season
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:17, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We've never featured a ski resort from the Southern Hemisphere, but this article received a fresh rewrite from JML1148. This region of Australia has only ever had one feature before (Mount Kosciuszko summit trails), but I guess there are only so many places in the Australian Alps.
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I've replaced the image with c:File:Mt Buller village Stevage.jpg as suggested – it's only a placeholder image, though – we choose different images for banners closer to when an article is scheduled to be featured (roughly 2–3 months). Please keep working on it – nominations usually sit here for many months and articles don't need to be perfect at the time of nomination (also hence my speedy nomination). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:30, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Glacier National Park
Blurb: Gorgeous mountain views, an interesting geological history and almost unchanged ecosystems with good chances to encounter wildlife from grizzlies to mountain goats - what more could an outdoor enthusiast ask for? (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Summer
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We've featured a lot of European DotMs this summer, and that is at least partially because we didn't run any DotM from the other big Northern summer region - North America. So for next summer, here comes another article I've been looking at for quite a while. Many coordinates are missing, but other than that the article looks complete.
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Place: Land Art Trail on Mount Učka
Blurb: A mountain at the Adriatic Sea has become an outdoor art gallery. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Weather is probably best in May-June or September-October
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 16:49, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have had very few features from the Balkans, and none from Croatia. Outdoor attractions can be more compatible with the pandemic.
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Scheduled provisionally in Oct/Nov 2022. /Yvwv (talk) 21:31, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as one of our quirkier and well-planned itinerary articles. I noticed this article some time ago and remember it being well-written and organized. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 00:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I didn't feel up to reading all the way through the article, but am I the only one who finds the "Understand" section overly preachy? I did edit it somewhat - the use of "man" and male pronouns for humanity is very old-fashioned and kind of jarring, at least for many Americans - but just how much do we need to push an idea of how to experience that trail? My feeling is that we definitely should state what the author's intention is, but we can then let people experience it however they do and go on to practical descriptions and advice on how to get from Point A to Point B, etc. I'll try posting a briefer alternative version of that section on the article's talk page later. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:08, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also, having just recently discussed about images in Talk:Canadian national parks, are the galleries a violation of the image policy? Per Wikivoyage:Image policy#Montages and galleries, "should only be considered for showing multiple examples of a specific topic (for example, in describing flora and fauna or cuisine – but not attractions). Image galleries should not be used solely as a way to include a large number of different pictures in a destination article". This isn't a destination article, but it is depicting attractions. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say the composite image at the top definitely violates the prohibition against montages and should be removed. Some of the galleries, such as the one that shows two views of the same spiral geograph, are not needed. Most of the rest seem OK to me, since this is not a destination article, as you said, but an itinerary in which it may be necessary to recognize every artwork. The Sentinel picture is problematic per WV:Image policy#People in photos, though. I'm not sure we should do anything about that. "Land Art Trail on Mt. Učka in winter" doesn't need a gallery; one image could do it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, anyway we have about 7 months left to fix this up so nothing urgent, but we can't feature an article that blatantly violates WV:IP though. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I made a few edits in the last few days, but we should make decisions about whether it's appropriate for this article to violate Wikivoyage:Image policy#Minimal use of images. I think that the density of images and the galleries still violate those guidelines, and while that might be OK as an exception, featuring this article carries strong risks that readers will believe this is exemplary in that respect and copy it in ordinary destination articles. Are the descriptions of the artworks clear enough that we can reduce the number of images to a more limited selection that excludes some of the works, eliminating the galleries with the possible exception of "Signposts and markings on the Land Art Trail" and creating 3 times more space on the right margin between most images, as we would be likely to do in any other article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:36, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, we should take extra care that featured articles as many new users look up to them to see how they're meant to be formatted and usually think that format is okay. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd assume the trail markings are enough to find the artworks, and they seem to be named on the map, so I think the images are needed more for telling the reader what to expect than for use on the trail. For that it is enough to have examples, and perhaps a few that give examples on how you can "use" the artwork. –LPfi (talk) 10:00, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds like you guys are agreeable with removing the rest of the galleries and having only single thumbnails; is that correct? If so, let's make the changes. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, go ahead. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:50, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I just removed the remainder of the galleries, other than the one with markings and signposts, which might be OK. The article still might violate Wikivoyage:Image policy#Minimal use of images, though. What do you all think? Should we delete half the remaining images? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:18, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are still way too many images and I feel very skeptical of featuring an article that's a blatant violation of a simple Wikivoyage policy. Leaving the images may also encourage new editors to well, add a whole slew of galleries because a featured article contained them. Feel free to delete half the remaining images. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How is it now? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:24, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looking much better! However, I think the signposts/markings gallery should also go too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:25, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Let's talk about that. From Wikivoyage:Image policy: "Image galleries are discouraged, and should only be considered for showing multiple examples of a specific topic (for example, in describing flora and fauna or cuisine – but not attractions)." How does that apply to signposts/markings? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:40, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the reason why we discouraged such galleries was because these chew up data and are slow to load, especially in places with poor reception. The reason why I'm okay with these in cuisine articles is because nobody prints these out, and many will read these articles before they're going to that destination (e.g. if I'm going to say Franconia, I would read Franconian cuisine before leaving to Franconia, but I wouldn't print it out, nor would I want to read it in Franconia)
Also, from experience last Saturday (18 June), just the map in Telangana took at least 10 seconds to load while I was on the road with poor 4G signal. If that one image took so long to load, then how long do you think it'll take for the gallery to load? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of it as a matter of style, and I see your point. So maybe select 1 or 2 of the best images from that bunch to use as thumbnails, possibly deleting another one in the process. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:24, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On hold until issues are settled. /Yvwv (talk) 09:39, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Slush? This nomination has quietly been sitting since June. The last remaining gallery issue will likely remain unsolved as the reasons for keeping the gallery equal the reasons for removing it. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:08, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I feel like the number of images are OK now. However, I would not object to someone selecting one or two photos from that gallery and deleting the gallery, and I don't think anyone else will object. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:27, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the gallery and kept two images. With my browser window width (which seems to be the minimum for the pagebanner menu to work), there is now one to three images per screenful, likewise with Vector-2022 (the to-be (?) default skin) and maximised window. With maximised window and Monobook, there are still a bit too many images at the start of Walk, but I don't think that's a major issue. –LPfi (talk) 09:46, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I moved one image up for slightly better spacing. What are people thinking of this article now; should we run it? Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:19, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Outcome: FTT for June 2024. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 05:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: North West River
Blurb: Visit Central Labrador's oldest European settlement and the northeasternmost town on the North American road network for some lakeside scenery and to learn about the culture of the Innu, Inuit, Metis and the European settlers of Labrador. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Northern summer for weather
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:07, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I realise this is my third nomination of the day, but here's a article from Atlantic Canada for next summer. I started it today, branching it off Happy Valley-Goose Bay (which was on my radar), and have managed to get it to guide status, though it will need some updates closer to its feature. Labrador has also been historically underfeatured, and we've never had an individual settlement from N&L featured.
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Place: Bonn
Blurb: Founded by the Romans, the former West German capital was also the home of Beethoven and its lively streets has given it the nickname "Italy's most northern city ". (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep weather-wise
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk)
Comment: For the most part a good looking article that has been on my radar for years, but there has always been some other article from Germany nominated. The article has been worked on by a user in the last years, and the first 2/3 of the article does look good. However many Eat listings need descriptions, and some Drink listings need coordinates.
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Outcome: DotM for June 2024. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 02:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Destination
Blurb: From Turku to Tromsø, European route E8 passes through various types of Finnish and Norwegian landscapes. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May to June for the Midnight Sun, or April to August
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:22, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We don't feature itineraries that much, and this seems a good candidate for sometime next year.
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  • Comment: We hopefully have the Archipelago Trail in May–June, and if this is to be featured in (Nordic) summer, to avoid darkness and icy roads, I think it comes too close. Perhaps 2022 2023? If for some reason there are problems with the Archipelago Trail this could of course be a backup. –LPfi (talk) 10:56, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I introduced the guideline that a nomination should be intended to feature within the coming 12 months. This is more a requirement for quality, than for available spots. We should preferrably have a backlog of nominated high-quality articles, so we can afford to choose the most suitable article, with regard to factors such as climate, holidays, public events and safety. /Yvwv (talk) 15:03, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
May to June would be a great time to feature, for the Midnight Sun. That would make us wait until 2023, unless we run E8 instead of the Archipelago Trail. /Yvwv (talk) 21:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer to keep this until 2023, since the Archipelago Trail is more developed than this one. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:56, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, but I take the opportunity to ask: what should be done to improve this article, except developing the listed articles, and perhaps doing some more research on the bus and bike options? –LPfi (talk) 09:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, nothing major needs to be done, at least from what I've noticed (more specific to this article), but maybe an infobox or two would be nice, but we've plenty of guide and star articles without them. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For May-June 2023 we can also consider Swedish Empire, during the 500th anniversary of Sweden's independence. That article also has several destinations in Finland. /Yvwv (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. This road isn't going to disappear in the near future, it can be featured any year. If we get somebody writing about the Ostrobothnian destinations before that, it'd be a big bonus. I know them only superficially. –LPfi (talk) 16:39, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The article is great overall, though it should be proofread by a native English speaker for better flow in the language. /Yvwv (talk) 17:39, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, although I'd like more eyes on the article. I notice that the first empty slot is June 2023, which would be ideal. Of the linked places along the route and suggested sidetrips, it seems most are usable and several guides, half a dozen are redlinks and half a dozen outlines. I don't think a traveller needs to stop at destinations without usable articles. The biking option might need to be checked at some point, I just followed the cycleways and roads on the map and tried to judge their usability – but there is an Eurovelo route more or less along this itinerary. –LPfi (talk) 15:26, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If the Swedish Empire is featured in May, this should probably be postponed. Comments on how to improve it are welcome. –LPfi (talk) 07:40, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I don't find anything to complain about in the article. --Ypsilon (talk) 08:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Bethlehem (Pennsylvania)
Blurb: Named after lyrics in Christmas carols, the town that once was a main steel producer now has a lot of industrial heritage and festivals. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-Oct probably
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 21:03, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have so many guide articles from the U.S., so let's just nominate one more. Keystone18 worked extensively on the article a few months ago so it should be up to date.
Nomination
Getting there... everything that's now listed exists, I just deleted the places that have closed. Some sleep listings need descriptions, but I'll try to handle that during the weekend... --Ypsilon (talk) 18:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Tirana
Blurb: Albania's capital is colourful and rapidly modernizing, with cosy cafés and bustling nightlife. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or autumn for weather. Not sure about public events.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 16:02, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The Balkans are under-featured. Tirana is in a phase of modernization; well-functioning but still very affordable.
Nomination
  • Almost What SHB2000 said, some coordinates are missing, a couple of listings don't have a description. Some more photos would be nice. I guess the article is reasonably up to date, because I see "as of 2022" here and there. --Ypsilon (talk) 05:40, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are many undated listings, which means they were added before 2015. Ground Zero (talk) 21:09, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, probably. Yesterday and today I ran all of the listings through Google Maps. Some more photos here and there wouldn't hurt. Also, the detailed bus schedules from 2021 could be deleted... or kept to give the reader an approximate idea of whether they can expect one or ten buses a day from a certain place to Tirana. Ypsilon (talk) 20:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Topic
Blurb: Found worldwide, both a hazard and an attraction for travellers. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any time
Nominated by: Pashley (talk) 15:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Several people have been working on this & it now seems up to scratch.
Nomination
Well, I guess interested readers will also check out the destination article for information about visiting the volcano of choice and what to expect before going there. So I could as well support the article. --Ypsilon (talk) 04:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Hagi
Blurb: One of Japan's most beautiful castle towns, of the 17th century castle itself only the moat, walls and garden remain. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-May and Oct-Nov are reasonably dry and warm
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Our current OtBP nominees are either already in the schedule or "summer articles", so we need something for April 2024. How about this one, out of our many unfeatured guide articles about Japanese small towns. The fact that it has a static map with POIs reveals that it was written up to guide status before we had dynamic maps, though it has been updated regularly over the years. It could still use an update and some sections could perhaps be expanded.
Nomination
  • Support I've worked to add destinations to the city and to bulk up some of the other sections. I think the article has now doubled in size. If there is anything lacking, please let me know. I'll try to fill in the gaps. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 12:20, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Addis Ababa
Blurb: Ethiopia's capital is the seat of the African Union, and an important airline hub. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: October to May to avoid rain. Not sure about public events.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 10:33, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have had few nominees from Africa. This article was slushed in 2021 due to the Tigray War, which seems to be resolved now.
Nomination
  • Comment: although the war only ended last month and was over a thousand kilometres from Addis Ababa, I think we should wait till late 2023 to feature this (but we'll probably feature this in late 2023 due to the scheduling anyway). I haven't read the article since I last nominated it, but I can remember it was looking good to go at the time. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:54, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many of the listings are dated 2017, or are undated, so they are probably even older. I don't think that nominating articles that are out of date is a good use of time. Ground Zero (talk) 23:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • There has been peace for almost a year now, and it's not like we've featured African articles too often (especially not DotMs), so how about running this in April 2024? Will try to remember to check the listings some time before that. Ypsilon (talk) 19:51, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The listings and Get in/Get around info are not yet checked and updated, it seems. –LPfi (talk) 08:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've now ran all listed places through Google Maps, and updated the get and around sections as much as possible using the Internet. --Ypsilon (talk) 17:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Done --Ypsilon (talk) 17:09, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Culturally significant landscapes in Jaén
Blurb: There's a lot of history to explore in the mountains of rural Jaén. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or autumn perhaps, summer would be unbearably hot and winter maybe a bit chilly
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:54, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have a lot of FTT nominees for the summer of 2024 but for each of them there's some reason why it wouldn't fit into March's slot (which will appear in the schedule shortly). I intended to put James Cook there, but I don't know if people are OK with it or we should wait for some anniversary of at one of at some specific date. How about this one, then? I think we've never featured anything other than DotMs from Spain, so this would be the first FTT from there.
Nomination
  • Very close - at a quick glance the article looks good apart from some kind of code error halfway down the article. Ypsilon (talk) 18:54, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs work. I just had a read through this article: it's nice that it describes what's on that route in a detailed manner, but I find the lack of any information on the practical aspects of the route, such as road/rail conditions, getting between the points listed in each section, problematic. If/when this is fixed, I'll potentially support. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:35, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
According to Culturally_significant_landscapes_in_Jaén#Prepare "The route is designed to be done in a private vehicle." and "some of the places indicated in the route may not be accessible by public transport", and in the region there doesn't seem to be too many bus stops neither on Google maps nor Openstreetmap. --Ypsilon (talk) 17:00, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Iquitos
Blurb: A metropolis in the Peruvian Amazon, with great opportunities for boat safaris. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: After the Civil unrest in Perú settles down. While the dry season (Apr-Sep) is more comfortable, the wet season (Oct-Mar) is more appealing for wildlife watching. We are short on features for northern winter, and we usually feature Latin American cities for carnival season.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 01:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC), renominated by Ground Zero (talk) after updating in Jan 2023[reply]
Comment: We haven't too many South American candidates, and this is an unusual city. Though its size, it can be considered off the beaten path for the difficulty to get there.
Nomination
Schedule for March? Guanajuato has yet to get any support vote, and the article has some issues. Would anyone else support Iquitos? /Yvwv (talk) 12:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would not support featuring anything from Peru until the civil unrest settles down. March is way too soon, and by how it's going, it seems the protests won't go away anytime in the near future. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 12:46, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
English-speaking media no longer mention the unrest in Peru, and wikipedia:Timeline of the 2022–2023 Peruvian protests English Wikipedia mentions no incidents for the last two weeks. Could anyone proficient in Spanish make a check-up of the current situation? /Yvwv (talk) 00:20, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
According to my reading of w:es:Convulsión social de Perú de 2022-presente it seems the protests calmed down temporarily in middle-February, but there was to be a great march to Lima on 13 March. My Spanish is not that good, but I conclude that the situation is still very volatile. –LPfi (talk) 09:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The article now says that the unrest ended in "mid March" (the 24th). –LPfi (talk) 11:23, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Tucson
Blurb: The "Old Pueblo" features a lot of Spanish colonial and Mexican heritage. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or fall (March 2024 maybe?)
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 15:08, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The current year is, I think, the first year in a very long time if ever, when we haven't featured a single U.S. destination as DotM (only OtBP and FTT). So let's have one in the early 2024 and maybe one later. The Tucson article is tidy and doesn't lack content or pictures, the only thing is that the article may present the situation a few years ago and as such listings need to be run through Google Maps, dead links fixed and prices updated where applicable. Probably a good time to do this is a month or two before the article is featured rather than half a year earlier.
Nomination
  • Some work needed - per my comment. --Ypsilon (talk) 15:08, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support but it needs work right now, most info is 2017 or earlier, eg "Old Tucson" is long gone. Nevertheless a well-constructed page for an interesting destination. March / April is a good time to feature, it was already damned hot when I was last there this May. Grahamsands (talk) 19:52, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just went through the article, and almost everything was still in business/had functioning websites (I think I had to delete just one restaurant), so let's run the article tomorrow. For the Old Tucson part, the article does say that "much of the barrio was destroyed when the Tucson Convention Center was built. " --Ypsilon (talk) 19:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Singapore Changi Airport
Blurb: Singapore Changi Airport just might be the world's best airport: with waterfalls, lush tropical gardens, swimming pools, free cinemas and amazing food, there are few better places to spend your layover. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Anytime
Nominated by: Jpatokal (talk) 00:33, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A great article for a great airport. Huge props to @Othello95: for adding so much content about Jewel in particular!
Nomination

Outcome: FTT for Feb 2024. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 22:02, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Puerto Morelos
Blurb: More of a residential community than a purpose built tourist destination, from here you can access the sea and jungle alike (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Winter-early spring is the driest time of the year, and also I think the main tourist season in the Caribbean
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:28, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We've had a few Mexican features over the years, but only one OtBP and never anything from coastal Mexico - PM will fill these holes. This article has guide status, however most places lack coordinates (and at that we can check what's in business and what's not) and a few more photos.
Nomination
Great work! One thing to fix are several bullet points in See that are more of activities (swimming, diving etc.) and should be moved to the Do section, in fact those that are already described in the Do section could be deleted. Ypsilon (talk) 20:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. I've taken a stab at moving activities from "See" to "Do". Hope it's an improvement! Mrkstvns (talk) 18:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, now it looks great. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 03:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Didn't say it when deleting the "needs fixes" part in the schedule above a few hours ago, but thanks to the recent edits by Mrkstvns the article is now most certainly ready to be showcased on the main page in February. --Ypsilon (talk) 15:53, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The article seems complete to me and I like the town because it is quite UN-commercial compared to neighboring Cancun. (I find the DoTM banner for it to be amusing because I don't recall seeing a picture of their iconic leaning light shown from a perspective that makes it look like its standing upright. Good banner though! Mrkstvns (talk) 18:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Sucre
Blurb: Bolivia's nominal capital is a UNESCO World Heritage Site with a showcase of indigenous and colonial history. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: October to April to avoid the cold. Carnival in February.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 22:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have few upcoming features from South America, and we never had a feature from Bolivia (except on The Other Site, back in 2006). The article has the essentials, but could mention more on topics such as the new airport, shopping, and crime.
Nomination
The "History" section also needs an update, as it doesn't seem to have been updated since the coup that ousted Evo Morales. I just changed one "is" to "was", but that's not enough. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This article seems too good to be slushed, but the nomination hasn't received one support vote during the four months since it was nominated. Should it remain on the schedule? --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 14:13, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This article has remained as is since, and I don't feel too comfortable running it during March when the issues raised by Ikan Kekek have not been fixed. I'm going to remove this off the schedule for the timebeing; feel free to revert me (but please let me know) once the issues have been fixed. In the meantime, I'll look for another article that could fit in the March section. Perhaps British Columbia? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:19, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Slush or not? I mean, some listings need more descriptions (the same issue as almost a year ago) but overall the article looks tidy and all listings have coordinates. The question is how up to date it is. --Ypsilon (talk) 14:24, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can support it now after updating the article, mainly deleting listings of places that don't exist, dead links and those bus prices that were at least 10 years old. The history section which was mentioned above could be expanded if someone wants to, but I don't see it as a requirement. The article is going on the main page next week. --Ypsilon (talk) 20:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would like to support this nomination. It's quite a good article and an interesting city that many travelers may not be aware of. Mrkstvns (talk) 18:16, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Chinese phrasebook
Blurb: If you plan a trip to China or elsewhere where Mandarin is spoken, it's useful to pick up some basic phrases even if Chinese may seem very hard to learn. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Anytime
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 15:47, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I was thinking about what to put in January's FTT slot, then remembered we usually run a phrasebook around that time of the year and we still have at least a dozen at guide status that we haven't featured. So how about the Chinese phrasebook this time? We have at least two active wikivoyagers (User:廣九直通車 and User:The dog2) who know the language and can check the article for any factual errors. Everything is translated, though as always some photos would make the phrasebook more lively. Then, as Chinese is a tonal language, it could be useful to have audio clips like in the Portuguese phrasebook, but I guess they also take some time to create.
Nomination
  • Close - may need more or less work, depending on if we think the audio clips are necessary. Ypsilon (talk) 15:47, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: If we want audio clips, it's best to get someone from northern China. Although I am fluent, my Singaporean accent comes out very strongly when I speak Mandarin, and Chinese people who are not familiar with the Singaporean accent will usually think I am from Guangdong. It's analogous to how even though my English is fluent, it still has a Singaporean accent and doesn't sound anything like King's English. The dog2 (talk) 16:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: There is some tradition to feature a phrasebook in the beginning of the year. Not sure whether it is rational; we might have fewer destinations suitable for northern winter. We also tend to have destinations relevant for Chinese New Year for January. In any case, it makes sense to feature this article in January/February. /Yvwv (talk) 20:17, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Place: Air Itam
Blurb: The highlights in this gateway to Penang Hill are the Jade Emperor's Pavilion and Kek Lok Si Temple, the largest Buddhist temple in Southeast Asia (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Dec-Feb is the driest time of the year
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:28, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We featured Georgetown as DotM in December 2014, so it's not too close time-wise to run this adjacent town. The article looks tidy, could use a little expansion though.
Nomination

Place: Tasmania
Blurb: While the island state may have long moved on since its convict days, Tasmania holds a plethora of historic penal sites, photogenic mountains and one of the last few temperate rainforests in the Southern Hemisphere. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Oct–Apr (during southern summer/early autumn).
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 01:32, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Nominating this article for DotM has been on my radar since January. Most articles have received a minor update (with some major updates too), having spent 2.5 months with this project. Historically, this site has also only ever had one Tasmanian feature: Hobart.
Nomination
Comment: With Queensland and British Columbia we are settling on a standard for featuring state-level destinations. The requirements are similar as for cities, but slightly different; the listing of venues in a state can hardly be complete. /Yvwv (talk) 17:45, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Are you referring to the Landmarks section? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 22:57, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Outcome: dotm for Jan 2024. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 05:58, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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